PC Per: Hydra Chip Shows up in ELSA Remote Renderer

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06-26-2009, 10:37 PM
Smartidiot89

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Originally Posted by naokaji

Thats what the hype promised it to be, but there is no proof of that so far and avalaibility is well eh... lets put it this way, you can't buy it.

That hype was wrong.

BUT you can mix old ATI cards from and old architecture with a new one, or the same with Nvidia...

The thing is driver support - LucidLogix Hydra chip could mix ATI and Nvidia in theory, it's just software and legal bullsh*t.
06-27-2009, 02:43 AM
saaya

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Originally Posted by Shintai

Hydra aint what it was supposed to be. Hydra aint what people "dreamed" about.

And what...Hydra on P55 boards. Ye sure...believe it. :rofl:

quote saved for later :D

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Originally Posted by Xoulz

That is not my understanding of it.

The HYDRA chip has it's own driver that interfaces with all the cards and the OS is fed from that. Phsysically it's output is fed to the monitor using one of the video cards displays ports.

or several outputs... :D
and yes, it has its own driver and ati, nvidia or games dont have to support or change anything... as long as they support directx, hydra will work...

so decami, mixing ati and nvidia cards does work... ive seen it with my own eyes. its only broken in vista, because vista has a bug, errr i mean feature, to not support two vga drivers at the same time :D

in xp and win7 it works afaik...
06-27-2009, 06:10 PM
Decami

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Originally Posted by saaya

quote saved for later :D

or several outputs... :D
and yes, it has its own driver and ati, nvidia or games dont have to support or change anything... as long as they support directx, hydra will work...

so decami, mixing ati and nvidia cards does work... ive seen it with my own eyes. its only broken in vista, because vista has a bug, errr i mean feature, to not support two vga drivers at the same time :D

in xp and win7 it works afaik...

Well if you have seen it then thats settled, but thats not what Lucid has ever mentioned. and I have not heard of a demo of such, guess i could be wrong, though.
06-27-2009, 06:18 PM
GAR

You can QUOTE me on this, THIS WILL NEVER BE A SUCCESS. As a matter of fact this will never even be mass produced. I say it will dissapear from the face of this world very shortly.
06-28-2009, 04:57 AM
B.E.E.F.

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Originally Posted by 570091D

i can see this "cloud gaming" idea as a huge job oppertunity for those of us that know how to tune a computer to play games. :up:

LAG.
06-28-2009, 09:10 AM
The-Fox

Hydra It going to be on P55, saaya is right, trust me ;)

Don't believe it ? well you better be.
06-28-2009, 11:00 AM
Talonman

saaya seems to be in the inside track with good info...

I already believe him. :up:
06-29-2009, 09:27 AM
Jowy Atreides

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Originally Posted by GAR

You can QUOTE me on this, THIS WILL NEVER BE A SUCCESS. As a matter of fact this will never even be mass produced. I say it will dissapear from the face of this world very shortly.

Glad to :up:

It'll be a laugh in 6 months time to quote this.
06-29-2009, 05:51 PM
Decami

Anyone who thinks this tech is gonna drop off the earth is, im sorry absolutely naive and lacks any capable knowledge of industry. With Hydra doing what it does, and proven to do so. There is no way it will drop off the face of the earth. Even if it doesnt release in a year, it will be released, funded by someone, bought by somebody this tech will breathe the air of the market.

Even if it gets to the point where nobody is interested, and it wont. Its an obvious bargain buy for either ATI or Nvidia, or definetly Intel. For if this tech worked with even half the abilities as its capable of, it blows SLI/CF out the water. Even if it was restrained at requiring the same cards and only 70% gains (which its not, for a fact) it still easily defeats SLI/CF. Rest assure, if it by some idiotic reason reaches a point where its setback and not funded, it will be bought and implemented by a VGA company, Most likely Intel to be honest, rather than Nvidia or ATI, for Intel is about to break into the VGA main market, and they have nothing but ideas, theories and early projects atm for such a thing as multi GPU, and Hydra would be a perfect solution for competition, unless they have something better, and being that they are most likely helping fund this project, is probably not the case.

I mean seriously, in camparison, dropping this would be like dropping the invention of the wheel, cause you couldnt figure out how to get it to roll.
06-29-2009, 10:36 PM
saaya

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Originally Posted by Decami

Well if you have seen it then thats settled, but thats not what Lucid has ever mentioned. and I have not heard of a demo of such, guess i could be wrong, though.

afaik they have, but maybe im just mxiing up stuff i heard from them when they briefed board makers and vga makers with what they said on tradeshows...

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Originally Posted by GAR

You can QUOTE me on this, THIS WILL NEVER BE A SUCCESS. As a matter of fact this will never even be mass produced. I say it will dissapear from the face of this world very shortly.

while thats not impossible, i dont think so... theres a lot of potential in this...
even if it would scale worse than sli and xfire... it can scale with an almost unlimited number of gpus, something sli and xfire can not.

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Originally Posted by Decami

Anyone who thinks this tech is gonna drop off the earth is, im sorry absolutely naive and lacks any capable knowledge of industry. With Hydra doing what it does, and proven to do so. There is no way it will drop off the face of the earth. Even if it doesnt release in a year, it will be released, funded by someone, bought by somebody this tech will breathe the air of the market.

not funded by someone... its funded by intel capital... :D
06-30-2009, 12:13 AM
Shintai

Some people just wants Hydra to be something its not. Unfortunately wishes != reality.
06-30-2009, 01:32 AM
Vozer

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Originally Posted by Shintai

Some people just wants Hydra to be something its not. Unfortunately wishes != reality.

That includes Intel, Shintai. ^^ That's why they funded it.
06-30-2009, 01:38 AM
Shintai

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Originally Posted by Vozer

That includes Intel, Shintai. ^^ That's why they funded it.

You assume Intel Capital thinks the same as some people here. Hydra got alot of potential on its own side. It just aint a SLI/CF replacement or the like.

People just tried to make Hydra into something they wanted in their desktop/gaming world. Its like saying AMD did bad and sucked because they didnt add reverse hyperthreading that was 100% fictional from sites/people to K10? Thats not how the world works...
06-30-2009, 08:12 PM
Decami

See though, your acting as if Hydra is a theory rather than a owrking project. Want reality? Hydra works, and better than SLI, that itself is pure fact without hype, and that in itself means just a little bit more than your comment on AMD.

Your comparing Hydra like its cold fusion, impossible and non proven.

When really hydra is like hydrogen fuel, proven better, not being used the way it should and with a bunch of people trying to push it into the ground for nothing other than pure spite.

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Originally Posted by saaya

not funded by someone... its funded by intel capital... :D

I do believe i mentioned this in the exact same post...?

Maybe you mis understood, maybe very very briefly scanned what I said....?

When i said someone, i meant by some chance it lost its funding by intel and others. Someone would pick it up, in a worst case scenario as such.
Referring to it not falling off the earth.
07-01-2009, 08:22 AM
saaya

just thought it sounded funny you said someone :D
i knew you said intel cap in the same post... :)

i see what shintai means and i agree with him... though im not sure whether it was people hearing more than what was said or maybe some lucid people saying something thats easy to misinterpret... everybody wants better scaling for 2 vgas... while hydra can certainly do that, its not the point of hydra... hydras real feature is splitting each frame efficiently for an almost unlimited amount of gpus, so hydra can go way beyond quad gpus, something amd and nvidia already struggle with, actually most games dont or barely scale when going from 2 to 3 gpus already
07-01-2009, 12:39 PM
suddeath

Would it be possible to implement hydra chip not on mainboard but on PCIe card with several gpus? and get the perfect scaling?
07-01-2009, 04:16 PM
XSAlliN

Oh darn, I hate "Tech Baby Steps" :down:. Guess the Arctic Ice will melt and New York will be underwater, by the time LucidLogix HYDRA Chips will work as advertised 2 years ago.
07-02-2009, 10:48 AM
Decami

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Originally Posted by suddeath

Would it be possible to implement hydra chip not on mainboard but on PCIe card with several gpus? and get the perfect scaling?

Im shure it wouldnt be as efficient as on the mainboard, but yeah, Lucid has already talked about this being an option. Id rather it on the mainboard personally though.
07-02-2009, 11:02 AM
Smartidiot89

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Originally Posted by Decami

Im shure it wouldnt be as efficient as on the mainboard, but yeah, Lucid has already talked about this being an option. Id rather it on the mainboard personally though.

If we are to believe what LucidLogix said then this "Hydra" chip only consumes 5W TDP so having it on a PCI-E card wouldn't be the end of the world...

My guess would be that AMD or Nvidia won't have a choice but to adapt to Hydra really if/when it launches

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