Intel to discontinue Core i7 920 & 940 CPUs

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05-28-2009, 03:55 AM
Stukov

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Originally Posted by Shintai

Considering my subjective benchmark it sold very very well.

Fixed.

BTW

http://www.guru3d.com/news/core-i5-t...mnce-revealed/
05-28-2009, 03:59 AM
Shintai

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Originally Posted by Stukov

Fixed.

BTW

http://www.guru3d.com/news/core-i5-t...mnce-revealed/

We already saw it from JC. Plus its a HT vs no HT bench :clap:
And the picture from the original site also only showed 1 DIMM.

Nothing better than to try twist the truth right? Its also a pretty straight forward to know i5 performance. Since the only difference between j5 and i7 is QPI vs PCIe and 1 memory channel difference.
05-28-2009, 04:02 AM
MomijiTMO

IMO no one here has enough knowledge of Intel's operations to say if it sold well or not. Stop pretending lol.
05-28-2009, 04:07 AM
saaya

920 going EOL could be true, i heard that from 2 diferent sources already...
its avague tho, apparently intel said 920 will move to 1156... that could mean anything from a 920-like cpu on 1156 will cost less, reducing demand for 920 on 1366 to 1366 920s beeing EOL'ed for good and intel will try to force people to buy 1156 instead...

if the latter is true, theres nothing to worry about, they want to force the mainstream to go 1156, overclockers know that xeon 1366 chips clock better anyhow, and intel cant easily pull the plug on those... so just ignore it, no matter how much intel will try to force people to 1156 for entry level cpus, they cant really cause xeons for 1366 exist that cost about the same and clock better than 1366 i7 chips :D
05-28-2009, 04:07 AM
DdotRoq

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Originally Posted by MomijiTMO

IMO no one here has enough knowledge of Intel's operations to say if it sold well or not. Stop pretending lol.

My cousin "Bobintel" says it sold great. Who's to deny a man with the words "Intel" in his name.
05-28-2009, 04:09 AM
Hornet331

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Originally Posted by Mats

Isn't it some kind of difference between them when overclocking? I think I've read somewhere that the BIOS lack some kind of setting when Xeons are used?

When thers a difference, then that, that a avarage Xeon will clock better then a avarage 920 (both D0). As for the bioses, blame asus for not fully supporting the xeons in consumer boards (duno if they fixed it already). Other board makers made there homeworks and they work just like normal i7s.
05-28-2009, 04:23 AM
Mats

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Originally Posted by Shintai

No its exactly the same and have been done for years and years.

Yeah they're the same alright, but still they don't act the same. Found a post here, but it must be more of a BIOS issue than anything else.

Anyway I'm not surprised at all about this change, the €250 920 is just too good to be true if Intel wants to sell some i5 too. This ain't gonna help much as long as the Xeons stay though.
05-28-2009, 04:27 AM
MomijiTMO

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Originally Posted by saaya

920 going EOL could be true, i heard that from 2 diferent sources already...

........... Oh well there goes 2010 i7 build. . . . might be a 2011 build now.
05-28-2009, 04:29 AM
Mats

Hornet331: Damn I'm slow today. You're right. So why bother with the 920 anyway? Price is pretty much the same from what I can see.
05-28-2009, 04:43 AM
kromosto

my idea is intel first planned to hold i5s performance down or its overclocking performance less then i7 so lower priced i7's (just 920 :) ) will have a meaningful difference from i5 and make some buy i5 some i7. but now intel changed its plan and decided to a make more aggressive marketing against amd. so they release all the power of i5 without planning to increase its price by this move lower priced i7s lost their meaning and no need to continue them. but i think they will put a new i7 on market which is priced between todays 920 and 940 (maybe more closer to 940)
05-28-2009, 04:58 AM
PeterStoba

I'm gonna wait until it's confirmed before I comment
05-28-2009, 05:12 AM
informal

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Originally Posted by saaya

920 going EOL could be true, i heard that from 2 diferent sources already...
its avague tho, apparently intel said 920 will move to 1156... that could mean anything from a 920-like cpu on 1156 will cost less, reducing demand for 920 on 1366 to 1366 920s beeing EOL'ed for good and intel will try to force people to buy 1156 instead...

if the latter is true, theres nothing to worry about, they want to force the mainstream to go 1156, overclockers know that xeon 1366 chips clock better anyhow, and intel cant easily pull the plug on those... so just ignore it, no matter how much intel will try to force people to 1156 for entry level cpus, they cant really cause xeons for 1366 exist that cost about the same and clock better than 1366 i7 chips :D

Maybe intel wil EOL the 920 just to introduce a new one,say 925,with higher multi(+1) and in the same price bracket?
05-28-2009, 05:20 AM
SNiiPE_DoGG

EOLing the 920 makes sense because it clashes with 1156 too much, like saaya said they cant stop people from getting the Xeons except by limiting xeon distro channels. To me it makes perfect sense that the 920 is going away. In some ways it doesnt make sense that i7 came before i5 though :p:
05-28-2009, 05:32 AM
deathman20

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Originally Posted by bro20000

Just all go to amd! They maybe slower but there not there to screw u!

Until they do something like they did back in the X2 3800 days charging $$$$ for the CPU (yes more than the i7).

Sad to see the 920 go. Love mine even if its not a Xeon.
05-28-2009, 05:37 AM
Hornet331

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Originally Posted by Mats

Hornet331: Damn I'm slow today. You're right. So why bother with the 920 anyway? Price is pretty much the same from what I can see.

Nowadays it makes no sense at all, but back in Nov/Dec 08 there where no UP Xeons available, so most folks that bought in that time frame are on 920s.

I still think about switching for a xeon and dumping my 920 on ebay. :p:
05-28-2009, 05:38 AM
informal

Hornet331 how much higher do you think you can go clockwise with Xeon instead of your current 920?
05-28-2009, 05:42 AM
Hornet331

On air, at least 300-400 mhz with same temps as now (now 3.6ghz with a xeon there shouldn't be much problems to reach 4ghz)
05-28-2009, 05:48 AM
informal

That's roughly 10%.I asked because you will need to weight the total cost and see if it makes sense to go through all that for 10% more performance. Maybe if the power draw is much better while the clocks are 10%,it would make more sense.
05-28-2009, 05:56 AM
elite.ire

stupid intel :(, they shouldnt have had 2 different sockets for i5 & i7 to begin with...,
i hope i dont regret moving to i7 :(
05-28-2009, 05:58 AM
Sadasius

Glad I did not bother switching over yet. My Q6600 is doing great so I am just going to wait and see what is going on.
05-28-2009, 06:15 AM
Hornet331

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Originally Posted by informal

That's roughly 10%.I asked because you will need to weight the total cost and see if it makes sense to go through all that for 10% more performance. Maybe if the power draw is much better while the clocks are 10%,it would make more sense.

Money is not much of an issue. :D
Also while selling the "old" stuff i get at least half the money that i need for the new stuff. :)

Im also playing with the thought of switching the GB X58 xtreme for the DFI, cause the DFI seems to do better with 12gb (thought most of it depends on the cpu anyway).

But enough off-topic. :D
05-28-2009, 06:21 AM
saaya

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Originally Posted by informal

Maybe intel wil EOL the 920 just to introduce a new one,say 925,with higher multi(+1) and in the same price bracket?

maybe... but rather unlikely... why eol a cpu and then intro a new cpu thats virtually identicle except for some slight diferences?

Quote:

Originally Posted by informal

That's roughly 10%.I asked because you will need to weight the total cost and see if it makes sense to go through all that for 10% more performance. Maybe if the power draw is much better while the clocks are 10%,it would make more sense.

if you think like that, then going core i7 to begin with doesnt make sense :D

c2q offers virtually the same perf when overclocked to the max but costs notably less, especially if you use ddr2 for your build... :D
05-28-2009, 06:34 AM
Shintai

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Originally Posted by saaya

maybe... but rather unlikely... why eol a cpu and then intro a new cpu thats virtually identicle except for some slight diferences?

if you think like that, then going core i7 to begin with doesnt make sense :D

c2q offers virtually the same perf when overclocked to the max but costs notably less, especially if you use ddr2 for your build... :D

940->950 and 965->975? :p:

But I doubt 920 will be EOL unless its replaced by a 930.
05-28-2009, 06:36 AM
informal

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Originally Posted by saaya

maybe... but rather unlikely... why eol a cpu and then intro a new cpu thats virtually identicle except for some slight diferences?

Yep,why EOL 940 and 965 and introduce virtually identical two except for some slight differences :D ;)

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Originally Posted by saaya

if you think like that, then going core i7 to begin with doesnt make sense :D

c2q offers virtually the same perf when overclocked to the max but costs notably less, especially if you use ddr2 for your build... :D

Not quite(SMT aware stuff is faster on i7). But going by that logic,Phenom II offers nearly identical perf. while OCed to the max as C2Q does,while costs even less than both i7&C2Q ,especially if you use DDR2.

Sorry,couldn't resist reusing your comments :D.
05-28-2009, 06:38 AM
Vozer

Core i5 2,80GHz + HT and its crazy Turbo Boost (3.46GHz) will beat Core i7 920. :)

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