I7 waterblocks Version2 (Ek Supreme LT | Koolance350 | Dtek Fuzionv2 | Swiftech GTz)

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02-25-2009, 09:11 AM
ChaosAD

Thanks for testing Handacity :up: I would like to go with the 350 but given the price of 80 euros vs 35 euros for the EK LT i think my vote goes to EK and it will be my next cpu block :)
02-25-2009, 09:39 AM
Hondacity

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Originally Posted by scamps

omg - for what are all those fans? :shocked:

In which direction did you mount the 350 and the V2?

the fans? you're at xtremesystems :D

the v2 was tested horizontal..i doubt that rotating it will increase performance. but i will test that when i'm back also with the k350.

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Originally Posted by situman

Nice job! Very informative. Looks like its time I upgrade from the V2. Does the orientation of the 350 matter as much as the LT?

probably not if you look at the internals..it looks like doesn't need special attention to it..but it will be tested

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Originally Posted by Bojamijams

Thanks for the test :)

I'm still impressed by the Fuzion v2.. sure its last, but its FAR less restrictive.. in fact from that, the GTZ faired the worst because it beat the fuzion only slightly but it'll rob a lot more of your flow

i so agree here.. on core2 series my testing the dtek beats the gtz even martin had better temps with it..and better flow..

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Originally Posted by sabe

Ditto, I'm interested in a regular EK Supreme as well, so many people still swear by it :)

after several weeks...

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Originally Posted by ChaosAD

Thanks for testing Handacity :up: I would like to go with the 350 but given the price of 80 euros vs 35 euros for the EK LT i think my vote goes to EK and it will be my next cpu block :)

thats why i wanted to test this quick..i know some would love to see results before their purchase...
02-25-2009, 09:46 AM
scamps

Sorry, fans are for cooling down water and for nothing else :p: on xs and elsewhere ...

I am actually testing the 350 on a Q9550 @4GHz. And I can´t believe what I see at the moment: This cooler seems to be most restrictive one I ever had* :eek:
What are your results in this?

* incl. Supreme, Cuplex XT di, D-Tek Fuzion V2, Heatkiller 3.0 LT
02-25-2009, 10:01 AM
Blkout

Good information to know, but since I already own a D-Tek Fusion, I just can't justify spending another $50-80 for a CPU block for 4c difference. Looks like I'll just buy a 1366 mounting bracket for the Fusion.
02-25-2009, 10:28 AM
NaeKuh

increase heat load honda if your running dual pumps.

watch the heat load scale better on the KL-350. and i know your running dual pumps.

the block wont give you better temps at lower load, but it scales a lot better then the other blocks i tested with higher heat load.

this is why i kinda gave up after the third block testing i did personally.
02-25-2009, 10:44 AM
Hondacity

higher heat load? i got a high heat load already... 250w approxiamately...

what was your heat load? if i increase the vcore higher...i get bsods
02-25-2009, 11:03 AM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondacity

higher heat load? i got a high heat load already... 250w approxiamately...

what was your heat load? if i increase the vcore higher...i get bsods

:rofl:

i was going as high as 1.55Vcore @ 4.25ghz and only noticed a 2C increase from 1.488
02-25-2009, 11:11 AM
msgclb

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Wouldn't it be better to judge by the maximum temperature excluding bad mounts. I've always found that my max temp is on Core0. I'd call it a tie between the Koolance 350 and the EK Supreme LT.

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02-25-2009, 12:01 PM
scamps

I finished my test on a Q9550. Perhaps you should add the Watercool Heatkiller 3.0 to your review. If it is as much better on a i7 as it is better on a Q9550 ....

My little review could be find here (german language only):
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/show...5#post11454795

http://www.abload.de/thumb/auswertungmediumefmb.jpg
02-25-2009, 12:17 PM
Hondacity

Quote:

Originally Posted by msgclb

Wouldn't it be better to judge by the maximum temperature excluding bad mounts. I've always found that my max temp is on Core0. I'd call it a tie between the Koolance 350 and the EK Supreme LT.

it looks almost the same..if i remount the k350 several more times..i'd probably achieve lower temps...thats why i took the lowest temps..because its achievable..if you consider the max temps then realistically you're disregarding the better capability...
02-25-2009, 01:32 PM
mstrmold

Great writeup Hondacity. Question for you on the GTZ, how was it mounted? Seems there is some debate on whether or not you should follow Swiftech's guidelines with lining the swiftech logo up with the release latch of the 1366 socket. I'm getting ready for my i7 build and wonder which was the best mount orientation for you?
02-25-2009, 01:36 PM
Envy

high voltage i7:"This is MADNESS!" :shock:
high overclock".........THIS IS SUPREME LT!" :upset:

http://www.saunders.fr/images/oc22.jpg
http://www.saunders.fr/images/02.jpg
02-25-2009, 01:41 PM
warriorpoet

Your fits top leaked!?!?!?!
02-25-2009, 02:01 PM
CedricFP

So does the Supreme LT perform better than the Supreme? IF so, why is it cheaper?

Further, what are the mounting mechanisms of the KL 350 and LT? Is it a hard mount?
02-25-2009, 02:19 PM
Hondacity

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Originally Posted by mstrmold

Great writeup Hondacity. Question for you on the GTZ, how was it mounted? Seems there is some debate on whether or not you should follow Swiftech's guidelines with lining the swiftech logo up with the release latch of the 1366 socket. I'm getting ready for my i7 build and wonder which was the best mount orientation for you?

i followed the instructions..which gave better temps than not following instructions...

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Originally Posted by warriorpoet

Your fits top leaked!?!?!?!

yes

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Originally Posted by CedricFP

So does the Supreme LT perform better than the Supreme? IF so, why is it cheaper?

Further, what are the mounting mechanisms of the KL 350 and LT? Is it a hard mount?

i'm not sure yet..but design wise its definitely cheaper...remember the xspc gpu full cover water blocks...

performance wise..i'd guess the LT will perform better...i have yet to mount the ek supreme

i used hard mount i get better mounting repeatability with my hard mounts:D
02-25-2009, 02:21 PM
Hondacity

Quote:

Originally Posted by Envy

high voltage i7:"This is MADNESS!" :shock:
high overclock".........THIS IS SUPREME LT!" :upset:

http://www.saunders.fr/images/oc22.jpg
http://www.saunders.fr/images/02.jpg

what is that case? the rad mounting is beautiful...where is the harddrive? dang i need to beat your score...i only got 8.987:up:
02-25-2009, 02:47 PM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Envy

high voltage i7:"This is MADNESS!" :shock:
high overclock".........THIS IS SUPREME LT!" :upset:

:rofl:

This is the KL-350 done right owning on Linpack:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...la/Final-1.jpg

:rofl:

HT on Also.

Im gonna say this, for us xtreme people, i have yet to see a block out perform the KL-350. But you need the setup tho.

Wanna see a 920?
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...la/Linpack.jpg
02-25-2009, 02:58 PM
SNiiPE_DoGG

naekuh your only at 4.1ghz with a much lower voltage....
02-25-2009, 03:07 PM
Vapor

Two different CPUs, can't really compare anyway :shrug:
02-25-2009, 03:22 PM
Crazystang01

Thanks for doing this write up I purchased a EK Supreme LT on blind faith before this review. Hopping it would preform
02-25-2009, 03:26 PM
NeedMoMegaHurtZ

Thx for sharing the testing results! Very interesting...
02-25-2009, 03:39 PM
Petra

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondacity

it looks almost the same..if i remount the k350 several more times..i'd probably achieve lower temps...thats why i took the lowest temps..because its achievable..if you consider the max temps then realistically you're disregarding the better capability...

Just because it's achievable doesn't mean that it's representative of the product in the larger scope and simply focusing on the best that you can achieve while throwing the normative data out does not make for good testing methodology.

Even with your data averaged, you're still suggesting that the difference between the 350 and the v2 is akin to the difference between one of Stew's Storm G5's and an MCW5000 (to pull a comparison from the past for the purpose of focusing on magnitude of design difference). Your spread doesn't seem at all odd to you, given the typical spread that controlled testing yields?

You have some reading to do and, since you don't seem to like hearing it from me, here's a good place to start (old but still plenty educational):

http://www.procooling.com/index.php?...icles&disp=138
http://www.procooling.com/index.php?...&disp=140&pg=1
02-25-2009, 03:53 PM
NaeKuh

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG

naekuh your only at 4.1ghz with a much lower voltage....

HT ON + Linpack vs superPI?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vapor

Two different CPUs, can't really compare anyway :shrug:

yeah i know,

:P

But i wanted to just throw it out.
02-25-2009, 04:49 PM
DeanB

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Originally Posted by mcoffey

Wow...Just got my 350 in today. I'm impressed to say the least on parts quailty and construction. I know one thing, you'll never have to worry about the hold down or backing plate flexing. That's for damn sure.:D I'm sure it's some where, but what's the proper orientation for a i7 920?

Can't wait to get this bad boy mounted. What a difference a year can make with a LC company, very well done.:up:

andyc

Thank you :)

You can skim the optimization guide. Parts 3 and 4 mention correct orientation.

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