Intel shows running 32nm chips.

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02-10-2009, 03:34 PM
Helmore

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Originally Posted by deathman20

Yeah now im highly reconsidering upgrading i7 when I get a chance too, to not til more info comes out hoping that the next package will have compatible socket.

Page 7 of the pdf file posted by Mats says that Gulftown will run on their X58 series chipset. So I presume the platforms are compatible.
02-10-2009, 03:34 PM
Mats

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Originally Posted by Shintai

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....932nmintel.jpg

What kind of slot is that one in front of the RAM?
02-10-2009, 03:38 PM
Extelleron

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmore

Page 7 of the pdf file posted by Mats says that Gulftown will run on their X58 series chipset. So I presume the platforms are compatible.

Boards with 975X chipset were not compatible with Conroe despite Conroe being perfectly compatible with the 975X chipset. So that doesn't really mean anything... it is possible that Intel could pull another one of its games and 32nm CPUs will work only on "updated" X58 boards.
02-10-2009, 03:38 PM
Helmore

A laptop SO-DIMM RAM slot or something like that, I guess.
02-10-2009, 03:45 PM
Mats

Here's the original source:
http://www.intel.com/pressroom/kits/...n_32nmWestmere

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Originally Posted by Helmore

A laptop SO-DIMM RAM slot or something like that, I guess.

I think it looks too small for that, but IDK.
02-10-2009, 03:46 PM
naokaji

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmore

A laptop SO-DIMM RAM slot or something like that, I guess.

nope, notebook ram is longer, I suspect it's for flash memory to cut boot times (the tech has been announced long ago, but never made it to retail).
02-10-2009, 03:49 PM
Chri$ch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mats

What kind of slot is that one in front of the RAM?

Its for Nand flash memory.
02-10-2009, 03:51 PM
gumballguy

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Originally Posted by Shintai

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget....932nmintel.jpg

That looks like a photochop. I know it isn't, but it took a while of looking at it to convince myself the heatsink (and fan) hadn't been chopped into a straight line on the right hand side.

:cool: <-needs glasses
02-10-2009, 03:51 PM
jaredpace

is there a 32nm shrink of penryn core2 arch, or any other 32nm dual core... or is everything from here on nehalem / IGP based?
02-10-2009, 03:58 PM
Mats

Quote:

Originally Posted by gumballguy

That looks like a photochop. I know it isn't, but it took a while of looking at it to convince myself the heatsink (and fan) hadn't been chopped into a straight line on the right hand side.

:cool: <-needs glasses

Do you think it's photochopped in that video too?:rofl:
02-10-2009, 03:59 PM
T_Flight

Gulftown = 6 cores and 12 threads! :ROTF: I love it. Man, that thing might need to go into my rig. I need a Gulftown. :yepp:
02-10-2009, 04:10 PM
Shintai

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Originally Posted by xVeinx

Do you happen to know if the socket is going to stick around? Since they have a separate socket for i5, that would make it the shortest-lived socket ever if they ditch it...

LGA 1366 and LGA 1156 will continue. 45nm 4C/8T i5 owners will go down to 2C/4T 32nm. But LGA1366 owners will get cheaper chips with 32nm.

So still 2 sockets.

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Originally Posted by Mats

What kind of slot is that one in front of the RAM?

Its Intel TurboBoost. (Flash cache for HDs). And its a laptop thing. Its also known as Robson. Old tech so to say.

http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2007/...robson_425.jpg

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Originally Posted by jaredpace

is there a 32nm shrink of penryn core2 arch, or any other 32nm dual core... or is everything from here on nehalem / IGP based?

Only Nehalem. Or rather actual Westmere. Core 2 stops at 45nm like i5.
02-10-2009, 04:24 PM
Helmore

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shintai

LGA 1366 and LGA 1156 will continue. 45nm 4C/8T i5 owners will go down to 2C/4T 32nm. But LGA1366 owners will get cheaper chips with 32nm.

So still 2 sockets.

Its Intel TurboBoost. (Flash cache for HDs). And its a laptop thing. Its also known as Robson. Old tech so to say.

http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2007/...robson_425.jpg

Only Nehalem. Or rather actual Westmere. Core 2 stops at 45nm like i5.

Core i5 will eventually be replaced with Sandy Bridge, although I presume they will get a different brand name than Core i5. Performance Sandy Bridge as Core i6 anyone? :p:
02-10-2009, 04:35 PM
Mats

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shintai

Its Intel TurboBoost. (Flash cache for HDs). And its a laptop thing. Its also known as Robson. Old tech so to say.

You mean a mini PCIe slot? I doubt it since those cards wouldn't have any use for those retaining clips on each side, although this is an engineering board so who knows. Mini PCIe slots on desktop boards are usually placed horizontally.
02-10-2009, 04:37 PM
Shintai

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Originally Posted by Helmore

Core i5 will eventually be replaced with Sandy Bridge, although I presume they will get a different brand name than Core i5. Performance Sandy Bridge as Core i6 anyone? :p:

Yes. But you can say 45nm 4C/8T LGA1156 will first be replaced by 32nm 2C/4T with IGP. Then later with 32nm Sandy bridge.

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Originally Posted by Mats

You mean a mini PCIe slot? I doubt it since those cards wouldn't have any use for those retaining clips on each side, although this is an engineering board so who knows. Mini PCIe slots on desktop boards are usually placed in horizontal.

No, not Mini PCIe.

This: http://www.intel.com/design/flash/na...mory/index.htm
02-10-2009, 04:44 PM
gOJDO

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Originally Posted by Extelleron

Hopefully Gulftown will be compatible with current LGA 1366 boards and Intel doesn't pull the usual "same socket, not compatible" game.

I hope so. Otherwise Intel will have a lot of p*ssed off high-end customers. We have paid royalties for our X58 mainboards and we don't want to have them obsolete a year after we bought them.
02-10-2009, 05:01 PM
Gamekiller

Sorry to be off topic, but did anyone see that guys eye brows? x_x
02-10-2009, 05:03 PM
Xoulz

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Originally Posted by clayton

Gulftown :eek:

Yeah, I saw that and just decided to put off my i7 build!
02-10-2009, 05:12 PM
Mats

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Originally Posted by Shintai

No, not Mini PCIe.

This: http://www.intel.com/design/flash/na...mory/index.htm

Quote from the PDF in your link:

Quote:

Designed for easy integration into systems, the PCIe* full-minicard and
half-mini interface card are available in 2 GB and 4 GB capacities.

It's the same PCB format as the mobile WLAN cards have, they both follow the PCIe mini standard.
Turbo:http://www.dustinhome.dk/pd_5010113924.aspx
WLAN:http://www.dustinhome.dk/pd_5010204754.aspx
02-10-2009, 05:12 PM
Shintai

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mats

Quote from the PDF in your link:
It's the same PCB format as the mobile WLAN cards have, they both follow the PCIe mini standard.
Turbo:http://www.dustinhome.dk/pd_5010113924.aspx
WLAN:http://www.dustinhome.dk/pd_5010204754.aspx

Sorry my mistake. I was sure it was a custom format :p:
02-10-2009, 05:51 PM
Drwho?

http://eetimes.eu/semi/213402791

an other video ...
02-10-2009, 06:13 PM
hollo

i hope this is bs, i want a 45nm i5 duallie, then a 32nm i5 quad, not the other way round!
02-10-2009, 06:27 PM
mrcape

Well that's encouraging progress, gulftown sounds neat! I'm slowly starting to hunger for more cores.
02-10-2009, 06:47 PM
Blauhung

Quote:

Originally Posted by Extelleron

Hopefully Gulftown will be compatible with current LGA 1366 boards and Intel doesn't pull the usual "same socket, not compatible" game.

yup, drop in compatible

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Originally Posted by naokaji

nope, notebook ram is longer, I suspect it's for flash memory to cut boot times (the tech has been announced long ago, but never made it to retail).

what he said, next version of intel's turbo boost memory.

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Originally Posted by jaredpace

is there a 32nm shrink of penryn core2 arch, or any other 32nm dual core... or is everything from here on nehalem / IGP based?

Nope, the uArch that makes up the Nehalem core is replacing it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmore

Core i5 will eventually be replaced with Sandy Bridge, although I presume they will get a different brand name than Core i5. Performance Sandy Bridge as Core i6 anyone? :p:

Sandy Bridge (formerly Gesher) is the new uArch that will be replacing Nehalem. So it's really the upgrade for the whole line.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shintai

LGA 1366 and LGA 1156 will continue. 45nm 4C/8T i5 owners will go down to 2C/4T 32nm. But LGA1366 owners will get cheaper chips with 32nm.

So still 2 sockets.

Yup, and don't count out seeing a 32nm refresh of Lynnfield on LGA1156. This was probably going to be coming out 2010 after Westmere comes out Q4 2009 (same timeline as Lynnfield/Nehalem). Might be 4 core or 6 core (probably 4).
02-10-2009, 06:57 PM
BababooeyHTJ

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Originally Posted by Gamekiller

Sorry to be off topic, but did anyone see that guys eye brows? x_x

:ROTF: They're HUGE!

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