Seagate releases a firmware fix for the firmware fix

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01-22-2009, 05:41 PM
YukonTrooper

I feel bad for anyone that threw out or destroyed their drives in frustration after the initial firmware release.
01-22-2009, 06:06 PM
lowtcell

I need to flash mine but have no blank CD-Rs. Will the flash work from a USB stick?
01-22-2009, 06:16 PM
T_Flight

And why would anybody trust this firmware patch now? I think they are beyond the level of trust for people to flash their drives now. I think they should take them back and flash them and test them to make sure they are functioning and send them back.

If I was sitting on one of thesed rives now, there is no way I'd risk flashing. They didn't test the last one, so how do we know they tested this one? If they had properly tested these drives to begin with they would've never needed flashing.

I have always liked Seagate, and Western Disgital Drives, but I'm still floored over that last blunder.
01-22-2009, 06:26 PM
AgentGOD

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Originally Posted by lowtcell

I need to flash mine but have no blank CD-Rs. Will the flash work from a USB stick?

Sure, but you'll have to grab the floppy image from the ISO and rip the boot files and put them onto the USB flash drive.
01-22-2009, 06:30 PM
[XC] Lead Head

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_Flight

And why would anybody trust this firmware patch now? I think they are beyond the level of trust for people to flash their drives now. I think they should take them back and flash them and test them to make sure they are functioning and send them back.

If I was sitting on one of thesed rives now, there is no way I'd risk flashing. They didn't test the last one, so how do we know they tested this one? If they had properly tested these drives to begin with they would've never needed flashing.

I have always liked Seagate, and Western Disgital Drives, but I'm still floored over that last blunder.

Because of all the people on the seagate forum, and even in this thread that have flawlessly flashed their drives, and even resurrected dead ones?
01-22-2009, 06:30 PM
Morais

dangit i have this power on problem, im so happy i didnt updated the firmware before.Got the SD15 Firmware. Now imma little scared we need some guinea pigs to test it out!
01-22-2009, 06:34 PM
safan80

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Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

I've lost too much faith in them :( - I'm staying away from Seagate for ~6 months if I can - I'm gonna go WD for the 2TB (providing the WD2TB *isnt* 6x333GB platter design)

so am I... actually I'm waiting for the Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB to hit ≤100 so I can get 14 of them lol
01-22-2009, 06:38 PM
[XC] Lead Head

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morais

dangit i have this power on problem, im so happy i didnt updated the firmware before.Got the SD15 Firmware. Now imma little scared we need some guinea pigs to test it out!

Read the beginning of this thread?
01-22-2009, 06:41 PM
safan80

Quote:

Originally Posted by [XC] Lead Head

Read the beginning of this thread?

shh let him suffer.
01-22-2009, 06:45 PM
highoctane

I think I'll still stick with Seagate after this fiasco, at least unless my two 7200.11's really die within the next year.

It basically boils down to I haven't had a Seagate fail on me in at least 10+ years but I'm definitely going to be watching for any odd trends.
01-22-2009, 06:49 PM
T_Flight

Quote:

Originally Posted by [XC] Lead Head

Because of all the people on the seagate forum, and even in this thread that have flawlessly flashed their drives, and even resurrected dead ones?

How do we know in a week all of those drives won't fail? The point was, that the last FW version was not tested before release. They can't be trusted. For the ones that did test it out I gotta hand it to them. They are brave.
01-22-2009, 06:49 PM
Morais

ok done the update...no problems (for now)...
And some people are talking about disable AHCI mode to a safe upgrade...is this true, i did on AHCI
01-22-2009, 06:52 PM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by safan80

so am I... actually I'm waiting for the Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB to hit ≤100 so I can get 14 of them lol

:shocked: u bar-stool :p: & here i am sitting on only 2TB, wanting a mere 2TB more :p:
01-22-2009, 06:53 PM
ericware

I am still using the stock firmware .. I don't see any problem yet .. I am wondering if I should update the firmware
01-22-2009, 06:56 PM
[XC] Lead Head

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_Flight

How do we know in a week all of those drives won't fail? The point was, that the last FW version was not tested before release. They can't be trusted. For the ones that did test it out I gotta hand it to them. They are brave.

Because if the firmware was faulty, it would brick the drive instantly? Any potential read/write problem would show within hours, if not minutes after power up.

Anyways, seagate has already shown that even faulty firmware can't kill the drive. Just reflash it with the new firmware and good as new. After what happened with the original firmware, they weren't gonna let it happen again.
01-22-2009, 06:58 PM
eleeter

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Originally Posted by Morais

And some people are talking about disable AHCI mode to a safe upgrade...is this true, i did on AHCI

It's just a precaution to run in legacy mode.
01-22-2009, 07:01 PM
T_Flight

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Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

:shocked: u bar-stool :p: & here i am sitting on only 2TB, wanting a mere 2TB more :p:

If it's not too terribly expensive per GB I wouldn't mind getting one of those ina couple months either. I'd like either a 1 or 2TB fast drive. I wish they made them a bit faster. I know they are basically storage drives, but I still like the speed. I'd like to see a rather large cache. It doesn't have to be friggen huge, but maybe 16MB or so would be nice. Maybe a Black edition type of drive. Aw, WD of course.

After a year or so I might look at Seagate again. I have nothing against Seagate other than lack of trust right now. It's not personal. It's just too big of a blunder. I have to be able to trust a company when it comes to data storage like this. I have too much time invested to risk that kind of a loss. Those are mistake you cannot make when you deal with people's data. That was totally uncalled for and they know better. This is a top HDD company. They know better than that.
01-22-2009, 07:05 PM
halo112358

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Originally Posted by Particle

Excellent news! I eagerly await the results from owners.

:boom:
01-22-2009, 07:06 PM
tiro_uspsss

does this new FW fix the 1.5TB? It all 'seemed' to start with the 1.5TB - thats when I first got wind of trouble with Seagate anyway
01-22-2009, 07:19 PM
orangekiwii

how exactly does one flash? I have a so-called affected drive and want to flash before it goes wanky
01-22-2009, 07:29 PM
safan80

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

:shocked: u bar-stool :p: & here i am sitting on only 2TB, wanting a mere 2TB more :p:

lol what? how else as I gonna backup blurays? :rofl:

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

does this new FW fix the 1.5TB? It all 'seemed' to start with the 1.5TB - thats when I first got wind of trouble with Seagate anyway

well it should in theory, but I would for someone that has/had the problem with the 1.5TB before even think about it.
01-22-2009, 07:41 PM
Morais

Seems like a lot of people got strange warnings running some programs (including myself):

http://members.home.nl/dualdude/pics...SD1A_SMART.jpg

Linux:

Code:

[ 79.472286] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 3232 [ 79.472293] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 404 [ 79.814275] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 3232 [ 79.814281] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 404 [ 79.977564] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 3232 [ 79.977569] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 404 [ 80.218199] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 3232 [ 80.218206] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 404 [ 80.372146] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 3232 [ 80.372150] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 404 [ 80.517447] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 3232 [ 80.517451] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 404 [ 80.662713] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 3232 [ 80.662717] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 404 [ 80.916449] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 3232 [ 80.916454] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 404 [ 81.061494] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 3232 [ 81.061498] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 404
01-22-2009, 07:53 PM
AgentGOD

I can't test those, I'm running my HDDs in RAID 0.
01-22-2009, 08:00 PM
Morais

The boot time is slower on me with this SD1A, especially on grub load...with SD15 it took like some milliseconds to find my operating systems, now its up to one, two seconds :(... Well, I hope they release another update
01-22-2009, 08:15 PM
safan80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morais

The boot time is slower on me with this SD1A, especially on grub load...with SD15 it took like some milliseconds to find my operating systems, now its up to one, two seconds :(... Well, I hope they release another update

remember seagate doesn't support Linux and you shouldn't be supporting them ;)

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