Ahhh! Corrosion! (and gunk)

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Originally Posted by Sadasius

I bet you that water filter is going to look and smell like crap if you open her up. Filtering helps cut down the fluoride content but does not get rid of it 100%. The only method that is known to do so is reverse osmosis which I am think of getting a portable one for so I can send the distilled water through and have a really pure source for water loops. Heck who knows....may bottle it and sell it cheap.

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Yeah i have (in the past) changed the filters out.
They do kinda stink :down:
But now-a-days its like a cheap 69 dollar printer.
1; buy the black and color ink cartridges for about 50 bucks.
2; Or for about 20 bucks more just buy a whole new printer.

But yeah i plan on checking it to see how the insides look
around the end of january or by mid febuary.

That is if it doesnt freeze:eek:
Last night the on board software(Realtemp)
was reporting right at freezing temps and my pump
started sounding like a slushy machine.

So i shut my computer down and pulled the rad from the window.

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Originally Posted by Spawne32

i hear that lol you see more horror storys from people who attempt to use vinegar on 400 dollars worth of cooling parts then hot water :p:

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I've always used hot tap water (I know, I know....) to clean my blocks, rad and pump and dry them with compressed air, never had any gunk build up or corrosion...

Unless you live in like some poor poor country your water will never be so hard that you would have such visible corrosion. Seriously half of you get way to worked up over algae and corrosion.

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Originally Posted by MomijiTMO

Seriously half of you get way to worked up over algae and corrosion.

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:up:

i dont know about you all but at the wal-mart where i live (Kentucky so im sure everyone else has had this for probably 10 years) we have a reverse osmosis machine. water from the machine costs a mere $.33 per gallon... since you were saying reverse osmosis is the only way to totally rid water of fluoride (and probably a bunch of other junk) id say that that would be your best bet. they even have new containers so you dont have to use a old one. all in all its gonna cost a minute fraction of what your WC loop did.

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Originally Posted by mcoffey

You couldn't possibly be any more wrong when it comes to water hardness. Has absolutley nothing to do with the country you live in. It has to do with the lime desposits and other disovled minerals in the ground around the water supply where you live. No municipality that I know of in the US softens the water supply. That why water softening is a billion dollar industry in the US alone.

The main concern is the lime desposits and impurities collecting in the loop over time. It's just not a smart thing to do. You'd be insane to use common tap water in a PC loop where I live when considering distilled water is around 1.00 a gallon.

andyc

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Yeah....

Hard was the wrong word :D. Someone will say the word later on. What I mean is having high concentrations of heavy metals in your water. No one filters out any metals but contamination of water supplies is what I was insinuating before.

Distilled water is much more expensive here but meh it's not that expensive.



Oh and reverse osmosis is not distilled. It's more commonly known as deionised. It removes all charged particles [like metals] but organic matter remains.

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Originally Posted by vab206

i dont know about you all but at the wal-mart where i live (Kentucky so im sure everyone else has had this for probably 10 years) we have a reverse osmosis machine. water from the machine costs a mere $.33 per gallon... since you were saying reverse osmosis is the only way to totally rid water of fluoride (and probably a bunch of other junk) id say that that would be your best bet. they even have new containers so you dont have to use a old one. all in all its gonna cost a minute fraction of what your WC loop did.

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Running (condensed) water from a bucket under my house AC sys
has worked fine for me for months on end.:D

As i said earlier i havent used plain tap water for extended periods
of time before, well not in a computer sys.

I dont think i will have any problems.
If i do everyone will find out in about 2 months.
If i dont it will be like my running mixed metals for the last
7 months.= zero problems.
(Actually i didnt plan on it) never thought of the CM GPU cooler
having ALU in it with my pa120.3 and plain water:eek:
But no one preplied or had much to say about that.
Probably cause my sys was clean as a whistle:shrug:

sometimes .. i mean sometimes .. when you take out and rescrew the rad screws .. might peel off their paint ...
exposing the rad with the screws .. also when removing screws some of the cromium protect might wear off
with a slight damp on the fan ... bam! corrossion

this also occurred to me once when my rad sitting at the bottom of the case (alu) ..
and bleeding loop wasnt working well .. there's some water seeped into the rad+alu .. never noticed it ..
1 week run ... little fairies floated in the loop ... looks silvery .. kinda cool .. another week cloudiness began to occur ... u know the rest

The rest? I'm still laughing at the floating fairies :rotf:

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Originally Posted by MomijiTMO

The rest? I'm still laughing at the floating fairies :rotf:

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mine was a stacker 830 .. and place the side covers on ...
since it's mesh type .. and i couldnt see what's actually happen (until the situation got worst)
the silvery floaters turn to black ... (i still cant figure out till today what is that floating thing)

i bleed it after a few months later .. i'm darn serious bout the silver dust or flakes or something .. looks nice when the flow is slowed down

that's bout the recollection

You haven't been to my area then. Our water is 17-18 grains!
boil it for 5 mins and you get white granules on bottom and a grey scum on top. Let it sit out for 12 hours and you see white haze on bottom of pan. ;)


david

P.S. it's all minerals. Not anything else as we have house prefilter and carbon filter on water mains

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Originally Posted by MomijiTMO

Unless you live in like some poor poor country your water will never be so hard that you would have such visible corrosion. Seriously half of you get way to worked up over algae and corrosion.

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Err I could be wrong, but I believe demineralized is the correct term.
D.I. water(deionized) is where you used strong(in some cases weak) acids and base to pull out all cations/anions.

In the lab here we have super pure 18.2MOhm water that is refered to as "dd" water. It means Dimineralized/DeIonized water.
The :banana::banana::banana::banana: will dry out your hands minutes and if you drink it.... well we're talking, "taking a stroll in the sahara feeling", dry mouth.


David

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Originally Posted by MomijiTMO

Yeah....

Hard was the wrong word :D. Someone will say the word later on. What I mean is having high concentrations of heavy metals in your water. No one filters out any metals but contamination of water supplies is what I was insinuating before.

Distilled water is much more expensive here but meh it's not that expensive.



Oh and reverse osmosis is not distilled. It's more commonly known as deionised. It removes all charged particles [like metals] but organic matter remains.

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honestly from the pictures it appears like vinegar reactions have taken place. i have an old MCW60 that i accidentally left in vinegar for a while and then let dry on its own and it turned blue like your block did.

if you flushed your loop with vinegar while it was put together then its very possible that vinegar slipped between the acrylic and the block, where there is no flow. this combined with 7 months long of fluid submersion will lead to vinegar reactions that become noticeable.

if you use vinegar to clean block surfaces, make sure you do it outside of a built loop and then clean with distilled water/rubbing alcohol and THEN build your loop.

my $.02

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Originally Posted by Baleful

People still use vinegar? Must be an XS thing :D

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Yeah, if you really wanna clean some copper, bust out the glacial acetic acid.

But good luck on getting it back off.

Or avoiding oxidation from reacting with the air.

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Originally Posted by vab206

i dont know about you all but at the wal-mart where i live (Kentucky so im sure everyone else has had this for probably 10 years) we have a reverse osmosis machine. water from the machine costs a mere $.33 per gallon... since you were saying reverse osmosis is the only way to totally rid water of fluoride (and probably a bunch of other junk) id say that that would be your best bet. they even have new containers so you dont have to use a old one. all in all its gonna cost a minute fraction of what your WC loop did.

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Damn, wish I lived near your Walmart. That is probably as good as your going to get and dirt cheap too.

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Originally Posted by MomijiTMO

Oh and reverse osmosis is not distilled. It's more commonly known as deionised. It removes all charged particles [like metals] but organic matter remains.

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Ummm no....Here is a couple links to explain what is what....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distilled_water and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_osmosis