Undisclosed AMD Processor - Some results that AREN'T with extreme cooling...

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11-24-2008, 03:05 PM
SkullCracka

sb750 has been shown to only help very pore clocking chips. sb600's are still most of them anyway real good boards.
11-24-2008, 03:09 PM
Rammsteiner

Im getting Phenom II X4 940 for sure. Ain't going to wait another month for AM3 really:p:

Im a bit in a black hole though. There's not much to chose regarding motherboards for AM2+ right now and thus Im seriously considering to get a M3A79-T Deluxe because of the extra phases. On the otherhand Im thinking of just giving this 790FXB another try and making sure I get some better cooling on the MOSFETs.

However I cant find any after market MOSFET coolers which will fit on the DFI. I took a look on DFI's newest UT board for Intel, X58. If you look at the cooling etc on it, it's awesome. But I seriously dont see DFI releasing another AM2+ UT board. And if they plan to get an AM3 UT board, it will probably take so long to get it available that by then RD890 is out as well. DFI is always too late with releasing things:(

So at this point I think I might get that Asus board or just sit it out on the 790FXB untill/after RD890 and see if there's any good board out by then.

But then... If there's finally a good board Ill have to swap to an AM3 Phenom II CPU anyway... It's getting annoying now lol:p:
11-24-2008, 03:10 PM
LinusTech

video evidence coming today ;)
11-24-2008, 03:13 PM
SkullCracka

nice.... sits back and waits........lalalalala hury up damn hehehe j/k
11-24-2008, 05:33 PM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linus@ncix

video evidence coming today ;)

Appreciated ;)
11-24-2008, 05:36 PM
informal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linus@ncix

video evidence coming today ;)

We are grateful for your postings :).At least you are 100% reliable source even though you have NDA which limits you.
Can't wait for the video :D
11-24-2008, 06:35 PM
charged3800z24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linus@ncix

video evidence coming today ;)

Like Today. Today? it is 9:30est here I will check back later....;)
11-24-2008, 07:53 PM
LinusTech

Ugh. The camera man uploaded the video from work today and there was no sound, so he pulled it. It was up for a few hours, but I'll get it back up tomorrow morning ;)
11-24-2008, 11:41 PM
mongoled

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteiner

On the otherhand Im thinking of just giving this 790FXB another try and making sure I get some better cooling on the MOSFETs.

What problems were you having with the FXB?

Just asking as I also have a FXB but didnt see any problems, well not yet at least :p:

Look forward to seeing the vids :yepp:
11-25-2008, 01:13 AM
Rammsteiner

Quote:

Originally Posted by mongoled

What problems were you having with the FXB?

Just asking as I also have a FXB but didnt see any problems, well not yet at least :p:

Look forward to seeing the vids :yepp:

Well, I was Priming overnight. I wake up the next morning and notice the PC was off, but with stanby LED etc on. This is weird since I cant even shut my PC off since it will always restart. And if a PC is unstable it either restarts or freezes up. So I turn it on again, notice lots of sparks and smoke. I take a look and notice MOSFETs blew up:(

Some people even got it on a system running at stock just starting a game etc. But I also read some people having that on the 790FX-M2R, which is seriously better regarding phases:rolleyes:

But if you take a look at the MOSFET heatsink, well, if you take it off, you see that there's no thermal paste/tape. Just some sort of oil? The heat sink that's stock on the MOSFETs is higher and wider etc compared to the ones Im looking at, but the ones Im looking at are from copper with good thermal tape:shrug:

But Im out of clues now anyway since I read that Phenom II will be faster for about 5% when it's using DDR3... This should mean it might be better after all to wait for that instead of getting AM2+ Phenom II... I hate this:p:
11-25-2008, 01:44 AM
soundood

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteiner

But if you take a look at the MOSFET heatsink, well, if you take it off, you see that there's no thermal paste/tape. Just some sort of oil?

ive seen this before myself, but as a rule of thumb, i allways take the heatsinks off now and have a look, and to apply some AS5.

the amount of times i have instaled a mobo, to then have to disasemble it to do this is just too many.

and the amount i have seen that are not even making contact with the fet's or northbridge is unreal

so yes, now i just take it off anyway, and reseat it properly
11-25-2008, 06:15 AM
Particle

I've always been a bit afraid to do that, myself. Those motherboard makers are real sticklers on RMAs. All it would take is a little bit of AS5 left unnoticed during cleaning for them to reject your piece.
11-25-2008, 01:02 PM
chew*

acetone works wonders at cleaning thermal paste.
11-25-2008, 01:09 PM
jaredpace

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilBlitz

Im curious if the AM3 will be a better stepping than the AM2+ denebs because of the lower ACP they have for the AM3 chips.
Anyone have any ideas on that?

i also want to know this.

what do you guys think? 95watt 3ghz 945 BE AM3 or 125watt 3ghz 940 BE AM2+?

:cool:
11-25-2008, 01:10 PM
LinusTech

Here's an "unrelated" video. Finally up.

http://www.linustechtips.com/overclo...clocking-video
11-25-2008, 01:12 PM
Particle

Desktop chips are all TDP. Only AMD's server CPUs are ACP.
11-25-2008, 01:22 PM
justapost

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linus@ncix

Here's an "unrelated" video. Finally up.

http://www.linustechtips.com/overclo...clocking-video

Lol, seems you have fun over there. I wish you ran CB10.

Also it would have been nice to see if prime95 and cpu-z are actually running or all this is just a background image.
11-25-2008, 01:24 PM
Caveman787

Wow that was a nice video.

I wonder why the ht link is only 1800...that seems slow considering the current chips have 2000 normally.

I swore the htt/nb speed was supposed to be faster don't see why they'd make it slower.
11-25-2008, 01:27 PM
informal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caveman787

Wow that was a nice video.

I wonder why the ht link is only 1800...that seems slow considering the current chips have 2000 normally.

I swore the htt/nb speed was supposed to be faster don't see why they'd make it slower.

It's not the default setting and is obviously user tuned.The NB clocks of Deneb should be 2.2Ghz(or north of it).
11-25-2008, 01:37 PM
Lightman

Quote:

Originally Posted by justapost

Lol, seems you have fun over there. I wish you ran CB10.

Also it would have been nice to see if prime95 and cpu-z are actually running or all this is just a background image.

Watch the movie again and pay attention to CPU clock speed close to the end of it :p:

@Linus@ncix:

Great video! Very funny!
I'm doing exactly same thing as you're did with your chair :rofl:
11-25-2008, 01:45 PM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linus@ncix

Here's an "unrelated" video. Finally up.

http://www.linustechtips.com/overclo...clocking-video

Awsome Linus very much appreciated I knew you could do it ;) Love the electrical tape :rofl:
11-25-2008, 01:49 PM
Ghostbuster

Quote:

Originally Posted by justapost

Lol, seems you have fun over there. I wish you ran CB10.

Second that.. We would like to know if there is any truth to the other article about CB10 crapping out at certain frequency. :up:
11-25-2008, 01:56 PM
George_o/c

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linus@ncix

Here's an "unrelated" video. Finally up.

http://www.linustechtips.com/overclo...clocking-video

LOL :ROTF: (I'm talkin' about the chair "unfortunate" incident :D)

Thanks a lot for the video :)

@justapost:

Did you see the processor clock, changing from 3612.3 to .2 to .1 (as far as I remember there was a 3611.7 as well :)) ?
11-25-2008, 01:58 PM
Mads321

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteiner

Im getting Phenom II X4 940 for sure. Ain't going to wait another month for AM3 really:p:

Im a bit in a black hole though. There's not much to chose regarding motherboards for AM2+ right now and thus Im seriously considering to get a M3A79-T Deluxe because of the extra phases. On the otherhand Im thinking of just giving this 790FXB another try and making sure I get some better cooling on the MOSFETs.

However I cant find any after market MOSFET coolers which will fit on the DFI. I took a look on DFI's newest UT board for Intel, X58. If you look at the cooling etc on it, it's awesome. But I seriously dont see DFI releasing another AM2+ UT board. And if they plan to get an AM3 UT board, it will probably take so long to get it available that by then RD890 is out as well. DFI is always too late with releasing things:(

So at this point I think I might get that Asus board or just sit it out on the 790FXB untill/after RD890 and see if there's any good board out by then.

But then... If there's finally a good board Ill have to swap to an AM3 Phenom II CPU anyway... It's getting annoying now lol:p:

I'm personally going for the GA-MA790GP-DS4H..

It's got AMD 790GX + SB750 Chipset and plenty of MOSFET-cooling. Consider this; It has worlds fastest onboard graphic's, the HD3300, and this is cooled by a heatsink connected to the MOSFETS. Now disable the onboard HD3300, and plug in whatever card you like in the x16 slot, and voila! One extra massive heatsink for you'r MOSFET's only :)

Besides.. this was actually the same board (and theres only 1 revision) that was used to clock the AM2+ PII to the amazing 6+ GHz

The board is quite cheap as well.

EDIT: Looks like this http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/...ProductID=2887
11-25-2008, 01:59 PM
merkk1

Linus@ncix
Thank you for posting the video link it great to see what the Undisclosed AMD processor can do THX !! :shocked:

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