MSI X58 "Eclipse" Triple channel & Gskill 2Gx6

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10-13-2008, 01:01 AM
hendry

Amazing bandwidth...
I think 6 gigs are totally enough for 80% usage.
10-13-2008, 02:08 AM
CryptiK

Really incredible bandwidth & latency :up:

I assume you are using 1.8v for the ram for those speeds and timings, yes? As anything above 1.65v is deemed absolutely unsafe by intel, I'd be interested to see what the ram can do when staying below 1.65v. If you could show some benches of this I'm sure it would be appreciated.
10-13-2008, 03:05 AM
Kondik

I think I just cried while seeing the results ... 20 GB/s + ~_~ Insane
10-13-2008, 03:21 AM
The-Fox

Wow !
Insane Results indeed ! I agree with the rest that 12GB is an overkill.

BTW, what would be a comparison for a DDR2 Bandwith/Latency ? about 12GB/s ?

P.S.
The name of the MotherBoard is Eclipse, not Ecliose. ;)
10-13-2008, 03:45 AM
kaskuli

MSI seem to have found their own little niche market, don't have any idea what kind of person is drawn by their appeal... Company's on a downward spiral since it's K8 heydays. Even this X58 is already lagging behind compared to the big boys... Are they mainstream mobo makers or enthusiast mobo makers or, 'value' mobo makers now? If things stay this way I see them riding their faux-copper roller-coaster heatsink to the same place ABIT have gone...
10-13-2008, 04:26 AM
Slovnaft

are these kind of numbers legal under NDA?
10-13-2008, 04:42 AM
marmott

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaskuli

MSI seem to have found their own little niche market, don't have any idea what kind of person is drawn by their appeal... Company's on a downward spiral since it's K8 heydays. Even this X58 is already lagging behind compared to the big boys... Are they mainstream mobo makers or enthusiast mobo makers or, 'value' mobo makers now? If things stay this way I see them riding their faux-copper roller-coaster heatsink to the same place ABIT have gone...

source ?
10-13-2008, 04:47 AM
WaterFlex

Holly ****! There are absolutely unbelievable Everest results! Good job.
Congrats MSI. Great mobo.
10-13-2008, 05:44 AM
RPGWiZaRD

The MEM performance is the reason I'm interested in i7, nothing else. Bloomfield is too expensive to me tho, I'll wait at least for Lynnfield b4 I might upgrade but I'm in love with the triple channel performance.

And why WOULDN'T 6GB RAM be enough? For me it would be enough at least for 3 years+.
10-13-2008, 07:04 AM
Zeus

OMG, next upgrade will burn ahuge hole in my pocket. :D

I can see triple channel kits coming -- no more than 1.65v please. :p:
10-13-2008, 08:30 AM
Solid Snake

crazy bandwidth :clap:

congratulations man !!! :up:
10-13-2008, 10:16 AM
Toppc

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

Really incredible bandwidth & latency :up:

I assume you are using 1.8v for the ram for those speeds and timings, yes? As anything above 1.65v is deemed absolutely unsafe by intel, I'd be interested to see what the ram can do when staying below 1.65v. If you could show some benches of this I'm sure it would be appreciated.

MEMORY IS 1.9V
10-13-2008, 10:29 AM
Toppc

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kondik

I think I just cried while seeing the results ... 20 GB/s + ~_~ Insane

Quote:

Originally Posted by The-Fox

Wow !
Insane Results indeed ! I agree with the rest that 12GB is an overkill.

BTW, what would be a comparison for a DDR2 Bandwith/Latency ? about 12GB/s ?

P.S.
The name of the MotherBoard is Eclipse, not Ecliose. ;)

Have already ask a version tube to help correction ^^
10-13-2008, 10:42 AM
Kenzy

Yeah ! Great
10-13-2008, 11:19 AM
trans am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toppc

MEMORY IS 1.9V

That makes sense for that latency at that speed.
Freaking incredible 12gb of ram at that speed and latency. It freaks me out.
10-13-2008, 04:45 PM
Cliff Burton

Damn, 1.352v Vcore for 3615 and 1.400v for 3.734 :S
10-13-2008, 06:05 PM
Data_

This is totally amazing bandwith., nice runs.
10-13-2008, 06:39 PM
Nanometer

bandwidth is ridiculous, if someone told me we would see scores like that when P4s were about, I would of laughed..
10-13-2008, 07:50 PM
TheHardCase

Wow, just unreal...
10-13-2008, 08:15 PM
Mungri

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaskuli

MSI seem to have found their own little niche market, don't have any idea what kind of person is drawn by their appeal... Company's on a downward spiral since it's K8 heydays. Even this X58 is already lagging behind compared to the big boys... Are they mainstream mobo makers or enthusiast mobo makers or, 'value' mobo makers now? If things stay this way I see them riding their faux-copper roller-coaster heatsink to the same place ABIT have gone...

Huh???

MSI are awesome. Lower price for top end stuff, and the lollercoasters are pretty and do an awesome job with cooling. They are only going upwards to me, I have no idea why people here dislike them so much.

I was going to skip Nehalem and wait for 32 nm CPU's, but I just might get tempted again by this :p:

But I would like a tripple channel motherboard with just two PCI-E slots, I dont need 3.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

I assume you are using 1.8v for the ram for those speeds and timings, yes? As anything above 1.65v is deemed absolutely unsafe by intel, I'd be interested to see what the ram can do when staying below 1.65v. If you could show some benches of this I'm sure it would be appreciated.

Just about all the DDR3 kits I see are rated for operation at 1.8-2.0v, and backed by a lifetime warranty, so I see no problem. Intel are just advising against overclocked ram, but there isnt anything wrong with it.

Cellshock 1866 Mhz triple channel kits are already available for pre order:

3x1 Gb

3x2 Gb

Really expensive, I will wait untill the G.Skill 1600 Mhz ram drops in price.
10-13-2008, 10:49 PM
WaterFlex

bhavv
Wow, thanks for the links! CellShock is the best! I love very much that tripple sticks.
10-13-2008, 11:28 PM
Mungri

I think it will be too expensive for me to upgrade right away. I will wait for price drops, or even try and wait for the 32 nm die shrink in 1-2 years time.

But I can never resist. When I see something I like this much, I want it :(

The minimum DDR3 ram I would want is G.Skill 2x2 Gb HZ, and that still costs a lot. Maybe in 3-6 months time DDR3 will be even cheaper, or whenever I can get premium DDR3 ram for £99 liike my Flex-II's.
10-14-2008, 12:16 AM
vservera

OMG!!!! this is some good stuf
10-14-2008, 02:06 AM
CryptiK

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhavv

Just about all the DDR3 kits I see are rated for operation at 1.8-2.0v, and backed by a lifetime warranty, so I see no problem. Intel are just advising against overclocked ram, but there isnt anything wrong with it.

Intel is not advising against overclocking the ram at all, and I'm not concerned with damaging the ram. Intel have advised that using more than 1.65v vdimm will damage the MCH of the nehalem cpu, hence the sticker over the ram slots of X58 boards saying exactly that.
10-14-2008, 05:16 AM
TheKarmakazi

Quote:

Originally Posted by CryptiK

Intel is not advising against overclocking the ram at all, and I'm not concerned with damaging the ram. Intel have advised that using more than 1.65v vdimm will damage the MCH of the nehalem cpu, hence the sticker over the ram slots of X58 boards saying exactly that.

anandtech said that's not really a hard number but has to do more with the amplitude than voltage. They said there are ways to compensate for this but cant talk about it until NDA is lifted. If I had to guess, it's probably not a concrete limit.

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