This really makes me want to push the flowrates and do some more testing.
Can someone point me to something like a "how to maximize flow-rates" guide? Maybe some examples of how to set up a loop with two pumps for maximum effect? This would also be great to know since I'm going to test Dual-Laing tops soon and would like to compare them to other loop setups.
i hope you are also aware on the EK testing, that the block is VERY VERY tempermental. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by HESmelaugh
Has a worse attitude then the girl representing my avatar.
meaning it acts differently each time you rotate the block 90 degree's.
Thanks HESmelaugh! Great post!
great testing... i also have the supreme beating that gtz....
Great post HESmelaugh. I enjoy these types of threads.
1 liter = 0.264172052 US gallonsQuote:
Originally Posted by generics_user
180 l/h = 3 l/m
3 l/m = .79 GPM
So, 360l/h is 1.58GPM.
Your tests top out at 210l/h or 0.924 GPM...good tests for the market you're in. Thanks for sharing!
You use an Iwaki, duh!Quote:
Originally Posted by HESmelaugh
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_0658.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by majestik
its big tho
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_0661.jpg
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by RealRedRaider
the two countries cant even agree on cars. :rofl:
Exemplary testing, I really like the flow rate relation work...that's a huge undertaking and extremely valuable information. AWESOME!!!!!!!!!:clap::clap:
You guys are crazy. :-)
The strongest pump I can find in local watercooling shops is the Laing D5 Vario. Those other monstrosities are from gardening-sections in DIY-stores, I assume?
A package containing a second MCP355 is on it's way and I'll see how far I can take flow-rates with that. If I don't quite reach a gazillion litres per second, or whatever 3 GPM converts to, I'll consider further options.
Thanks for the positive feedback everyone!
If you can hit 475-485 l/h that is a right around the 2GPM mark. There is really no reason to go above 2 GPM, the only thing you get over 2 GPM is diminishing returns and more heat dump from the pump. I'm not certain at which point the heat dump starts netting losses, something I have been wanting to test for some time now...might just have to do that sooner than later.
Ok, so approximately 500 l/h would be the goal. With 253 l/h being the highest flow I got in my current loop (with the Apogee GTX), that means I would need to more than double the flow to still have enough when the EK Supreme is in the loop.
I'll have to redo the loop with fatter (and shorter, if possible) tubing. But it might just be achievable. So far, I'm planning to test the Supreme vs. the Apogee GTZ at very high flowrates. Make that very high flow-rates in German terms/barely adequate flow-rates for XS.
Should I also test different orientations with the EK Supreme? NaeKuh pointed out, that it apparently makes a difference. The Apogee GTZ has instructions on what the optimal orientation is and just out of curiosity, I tried a mount with it 90° rotated and really did see higher temps. But for the EK Supreme, I didn't find any specifications on how to mount it. I had it mounted like this:
http://shane.seraph.ch/64b.jpg
If orientation-testing has already been done extensively with the EK Supreme, I don't see the need to redo this. But if optimal orientation is something we're still not sure about, I'll gladly do some testing for that too.
By the way: Are those Iwaki pumps not annoyingly loud?
MMM supreme... :) Yes it's true the supreme give different result per 90 deg rotation> I don't know why...
-sponge
From what I hear around here HES, is that no two EK supremes are the same. Which is a strange issue in itself, but just because someone rotated it 90deg and got better temps doesnt' you will. You might have the better temps if you rotate 270.. or 180.. or 'normal'.. really you're gonna have to 4 tests and see which is best if you want to be REALLY thorough.
Hmmm... are we talking about significant differences here? Like, 0.5° or more? If we are, I think it's definetely worth testing.
Yes it is...try it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HESmelaugh
I tested one EK that liked the inlet on the left side, and another that liked it on the right side, but both preferred the nozzle alignment to match the core orientation as you have tested already.
I would just try one or two mounts 180 degrees from your current configuration and see which is better. If they are the same I wouldn't worry about it.
you have also tested ACS, it's true?:eek:;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinm210
my friends they don't believe it
[x] Check different orientations with EK Supreme. :-)
Thanks for the input, Martin.
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Originally Posted by G-UNIT91
up:)
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by HESmelaugh
im the one that told martin and, the entire forum for that matter, on the EK orientation, and made him and everyone else go OMGWTFBBQ
:rofl:
HESmelaugh
excellent job...what about this setup?
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c5...5/P1010760.jpg
The Ybris A.C.S.? Yes, it's in the roundup. Black trendline on the graph. Here are the links to two pages with lot's of pictures showing that block:Quote:
Originally Posted by G-UNIT91
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Interesting. A bit confusing, though. Am I seeing this correctly: The first pump with the XSPC Res top send water directly to the second pump with the "normal" XSPC top, and from there, the water goes through the entire loop? Do you know what your flow-rate is in that setup?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondacity
I really like the look of it, and would love to see some more pics! :-)
EDIT: now I just saw a third pump in the background! Now I'm really confused. So is it Pump #1 with Res -> Pump #2 with Res -> Pump #3 with XSPC top -> Radiator #1 -> Radiator #2 -> System?
I said to Martin ....:)Quote:
Originally Posted by HESmelaugh