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Maxwell Render

is that just a render program or it is a model making program? By the way it looks beautiful.

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Originally Posted by mr2sw21

Maxwell Render

is that just a render program or it is a model making program? By the way it looks beautiful.

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i think you answered that for yourself :rofl:

its solely a rendering software

How do you do that? I dont known anything about rendering but ı want to learn:)

A modeling program is used for generating the polygons and such, as well as assigning textures to various points. That data is then fed into a rendering program that does a whole lot of fancy math and calculation to turn that raw data into the gorgeous images Evil is posting. The details of how exactly ray tracing works are a bit complicated to go into here. For a light-hearted take on the technology, there are open source programs out there that will let you build using virtual lego blocks, and then you can feed those files into one of several rendering applications. There are a number of fairly good open source ones available, and a finished rendering of various lego models can look good enough it's hard to tell they're not pictures.

Edit: As an aside, a lot of modeling programs include a renderer, but generally you get a superior quality render out of a specialized rendering program. It's also important to point out that a good quality render can take quite a while, as Evil pointed out, the ones he's posting are 7+ hour renders.

Edit 2: See here for lego modeling software. For rendering search for a program called povray or POV-Ray.

Edit 3: POV-Ray here.

Very nice rendering. Im learning NX currently and there is something like detailed (visible) thread. I dont know if there's a similar option in Inventor, but making "real" threads would add a lot to realism of your renders.
Edit: Have you tried to make the same rendering without dof? Its a nice addition but just for the sake of testing... because 7h is quite a lot of time for such scene, but then dof effect takes huuuuge amounts of time if you want to have good quality.

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Originally Posted by RockfordFosgate

How do you do that? I dont known anything about rendering but ı want to learn:)

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orclev explained it pretty well, but rendering is just a term generally meaning
the creating of an image, whether it be with markers, photoshop, or in 3D.
in my case i do alot of 3D rendering so the tools apply differently, thats a whole
nother story.

if you want to learn about rendering, you should look into 3D as a whole,
www.3dtotal.com is a great site, the community over there is pretty nice
i use to go there. also www.cgsociety.com or cgtalk.com

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Originally Posted by orclev

A modeling program is used for generating the polygons and such, as well as assigning textures to various points. That data is then fed into a rendering program that does a whole lot of fancy math and calculation to turn that raw data into the gorgeous images Evil is posting. The details of how exactly ray tracing works are a bit complicated to go into here. For a light-hearted take on the technology, there are open source programs out there that will let you build using virtual lego blocks, and then you can feed those files into one of several rendering applications. There are a number of fairly good open source ones available, and a finished rendering of various lego models can look good enough it's hard to tell they're not pictures.

Edit: As an aside, a lot of modeling programs include a renderer, but generally you get a superior quality render out of a specialized rendering program. It's also important to point out that a good quality render can take quite a while, as Evil pointed out, the ones he's posting are 7+ hour renders.

Edit 2: See here for lego modeling software. For rendering search for a program called povray or POV-Ray.

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Originally Posted by Koen

Very nice rendering. Im learning NX currently and there is something like detailed (visible) thread. I dont know if there's a similar option in Inventor, but making "real" threads would add a lot to realism of your renders.

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there isnt a real thread option, but i can make them just need to know the pitch and such

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@orclev & @evil-98

Thanks a lot for informations ;)

evil your rendering job is seriously top notch. :up:

I remember back in the day when I was working with 3ds Max that Mental Ray was 'the sheet' in terms of rendering.. is that still any good?

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Originally Posted by CyberDruid

LOVE it. You should make a calendar:D

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when
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:YIPPIE::bounces:
Yours renders ftw

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Originally Posted by RockfordFosgate

@orclev & @evil-98

Thanks a lot for informations ;)

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more then welcome

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Originally Posted by NaeKuh

evil your rendering job is seriously top notch. :up:

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thanks :up:

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Originally Posted by Bojamijams

I remember back in the day when I was working with 3ds Max that Mental Ray was 'the sheet' in terms of rendering.. is that still any good?

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mental ray is awesome, i use it often depending on the job

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Originally Posted by Arni

+1


when
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Yours renders ftw

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as soon as i get a bunch of renders out i can get them outputed into calanders

might have something soon :up: just a test but yea :rolleyes:

Wait what, this isn't a photograph?

But seriously, superb, simply superb.

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Originally Posted by inCore

Wait what, this isn't a photograph?

But seriously, superb, simply superb.

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Hmm, looks photoshoped to me. :p::ROTF:

It's funny how often Evils threads get a post something along the lines of:

Random Guy: "Wow, that's awsome, will you sell me one of those?"
Evil-98: "Well, maybe, as soon as I actually work out how to make them, these are just renders."
Random Guy: "These aren't photos?"

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Originally Posted by inCore

Wait what, this isn't a photograph?

But seriously, superb, simply superb.

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lets just say its a photo :sofa: :yepp:

holy :banana::banana::banana::banana: man, you got some sick ass talent
i tried to get into the 3d biz and graph design but im too impatient

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Originally Posted by 71 (Bryan)

holy :banana::banana::banana::banana: man, you got some sick ass talent
i tried to get into the 3d biz and graph design but im too impatient

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yea needs alot of patience... "sits in front of computer for 8hr waiting it render to find a mistake..."

anyways

successful threads?

http://evil98.insanity-asylum.com/co...aterblock2.jpg

Except for the Depth of Field ;)

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Originally Posted by evil-98

yea needs alot of patience... "sits in front of computer for 8hr waiting it render to find a mistake..."

anyways

successful threads?

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Hmm... that one with my suggestion of a acetel/acrylic top? If so, think you could do a "night" render with the acrylic illuminated by some embedded blue lights.

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Originally Posted by Bobly

Except for the Depth of Field ;)

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macro shots what do you expect? :up:

i really like the look of that block..you got some skills xD

You dont need dof for test renders, and by fine tuning the parameters, you can go down to 1h per test render or there's something wrong with maxwell.
Nice threads :up::lol2:

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Originally Posted by orclev

Hmm... that one with my suggestion of a acetel/acrylic top? If so, think you could do a "night" render with the acrylic illuminated by some embedded blue lights.

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no, im still playing with materials, in that render the mid is stainless steel brushed.

ill play with night shots and LEDs, it usually takes 12+ to get a clear render so i need to optimize something

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Originally Posted by Koen

You dont need dof for test renders, and by fine tuning the parameters, you can go down to 1h per test render or there's something wrong with maxwell.
Nice threads :up::lol2:

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i see youve never used maxwell before. lol

maxwell is a light simulator, every thing about the render system is based on a unbias physical system. the render is treated like a picture from a camera, you cant say no dof, but i can adjust the aperture.

speed is not the issue, its the sample level, as you can see this render is quite noisy. its a 12+ min render

Yes, I've "only" worked with various versions of brazil, vray and mentalray (sticked to the last one) so I'm comparing your results with them (at the end of the day, its the final effect that counts, no matter how the renderer works). From I've read, maxwell is interesting, might try it some day :up: Im just too busy with modelling all the time :shrug:
If the last render took 12 minutes then its ok, you said 8 hours witch confused me.

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Originally Posted by orclev

Hmm, looks photoshoped to me. :p::ROTF:

It's funny how often Evils threads get a post something along the lines of:

Random Guy: "Wow, that's awsome, will you sell me one of those?"
Evil-98: "Well, maybe, as soon as I actually work out how to make them, these are just renders."
Random Guy: "These aren't photos?"

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Followed my me going:

Motion to Ban! :rofl:

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Originally Posted by Koen

Yes, I've "only" worked with various versions of brazil, vray and mentalray (sticked to the last one) so I'm comparing your results with them (at the end of the day, its the final effect that counts, no matter how the renderer works). From I've read, maxwell is interesting, might try it some day :up: Im just too busy with modelling all the time :shrug:
If the last render took 12 minutes then its ok, you said 8 hours witch confused me.

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the thing about 8hr was a joke, you should give maxwell a try they have a demo version which is good to learn from.

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Originally Posted by NaeKuh

Followed my me going:

Motion to Ban! :rofl:

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well atleast it took a little longer before you did that this time :shakes: