Nehalem and X58 show up in Taipei

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05-30-2008, 10:03 AM
massman

The hole spacing is slightly bigger
05-30-2008, 10:21 AM
xlink

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seraphiel

8 cores (16 threads) in 2008 Q4? I don't think so. That would be Nehalem Ex 2009 Q4 or later. 4 cores (8 thread) should be best / widest in 2008 Q4.

Could be wrong, though.

depends on if they MCM it
05-30-2008, 10:27 AM
OBR

NVIDIA HAS QPI license from 11/07!
05-30-2008, 10:32 AM
Blauhung

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seraphiel

8 cores (16 threads) in 2008 Q4? I don't think so. That would be Nehalem Ex 2009 Q4 or later. 4 cores (8 thread) should be best / widest in 2008 Q4.

Could be wrong, though.

They are thinking of Becton which wil be a replacement for Dunnington and useable in MP servers only. This will be a seperate product with all 8 on the same die and not a MCM

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Originally Posted by Nuker_

Quad has been along for a long time now, it is time to move on...

quad core yes, but with SMT and a huge gain in memory bandwidth and drop in latency.
05-30-2008, 10:35 AM
r1ch

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBR

NVIDIA HAS QPI license from 11/07!

Proof? Please :)
05-30-2008, 10:39 AM
metachronos

So we will finally see SLI on a non-skulltrail platform? This combined with 2x (or 3x :D) Nvidia GPUs will be a monster.
05-30-2008, 11:25 AM
virtualrain

Quote:

Originally Posted by OBR

NVIDIA HAS QPI license from 11/07!

Source?
05-30-2008, 11:27 AM
DMH

Quote:

Originally Posted by metachronos

So we will finally see SLI on a non-skulltrail platform? This combined with 2x (or 3x :D) Nvidia GPUs will be a monster.

Nvidia has a QPI license but Intel doesn't has a SLI license;)
05-30-2008, 11:42 AM
Seraphiel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blauhung

They are thinking of Becton which wil be a replacement for Dunnington and useable in MP servers only. This will be a seperate product with all 8 on the same die and not a MCM

Nehalem Ex = Beckton (or Becton), right? :confused:

Regardless of names, are you saying there will be a 8 physical core / 16 thread Nehalem out in Q4 2008 (as the article mentions), or even in H1 2009?

That I would simply love to be true :yepp:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMH

Nvidia has a QPI license but Intel doesn't has a SLI license;)

:shocked:

What, where and since when did they get the license? Any sources?
05-30-2008, 12:04 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seraphiel

Nehalem Ex = Beckton (or Becton), right? :confused:

Regardless of names, are you saying there will be a 8 physical core / 16 thread Nehalem out in Q4 2008 (as the article mentions), or even in H1 2009?

That I would simply love to be true :yepp:

:shocked:

What, where and since when did they get the license? Any sources?

No, not on any board you would want. He is talking about MP setups. Multi Processor, read that as quad socket machines.
The single sockets and dual socket motherboards will be quads from all I've heard so far.
Ok, now someone come in and prove me wrong..:rofl:
05-30-2008, 12:09 PM
virtualrain

Quote:

Originally Posted by Movieman

No, not on any board you would want. He is talking about MP setups. Multi Processor, read that as quad socket machines.
The single sockets and dual socket motherboards will be quads from all I've heard so far.
Ok, now someone come in and prove me wrong..:rofl:

That's correct... Only Bloomfield and Gainstown will come this year. 8-core Beckton for multi-processor platforms (i.e. quad socket server platforms) will come next year.

http://members.shaw.ca/virtualrain/n...alem-chart.png
05-30-2008, 12:17 PM
Movieman

Quote:

Originally Posted by virtualrain

That's correct... Only Bloomfield and Gainstown will come this year. 8-core Beckton for multi-processor platforms (i.e. quad socket server platforms) will come next year.

Thank you, my memory is good today!:D
Gainstown for me.. 8 cores, 16 showing in taskmanager.
The only question is will it OC or not with this new design.
05-30-2008, 12:18 PM
Seraphiel

Quote:

Originally Posted by virtualrain

That's correct... Only Bloomfield and Gainstown will come this year. 8-core Beckton for multi-processor platforms (i.e. quad socket server platforms) will come next year.

I never questioned that they will come, nor the intended platform or market, but simply the time of the release.

Richard Swinburne from bit-tech.net, expected such a CPU to be released in Q4 2008, and from all infos that is simply not the case.

That is pretty much all. I never expected Nehalem Ex / Beckton to be released for desktop users, but the question in mind was would it be released at all and in Q4 2008 :)
05-30-2008, 12:59 PM
DeathReborn

Quote:

Originally Posted by r1ch

Proof? Please :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by virtualrain

Source?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seraphiel

:shocked:

What, where and since when did they get the license? Any sources?

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7477.html

It is mentioned there.
05-30-2008, 01:50 PM
adamsleath

130W tdp:eek:, eek
http://members.shaw.ca/virtualrain/n...alem-chart.png
nice blue chart
05-30-2008, 01:53 PM
GAR

how is the bloomfield going to perform against a yorkie at 4ghz ????
05-30-2008, 01:56 PM
philbrown23

I like the way that socket looks! looks like the 775 almost but a tad more SEXY!
05-30-2008, 02:12 PM
virtualrain

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathReborn

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7477.html

It is mentioned there.

Thanks!
05-30-2008, 02:13 PM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by adamsleath

130W tdp:eek:, eek

its the extreme edition, they always have 130W TDP (exept the QX9770 with 136W ;) )
05-30-2008, 02:31 PM
nachthymnen

Nice, can't wait to see some posts from the event in Taipei:D:eek:
05-30-2008, 02:39 PM
ak_47_boy

wtf @ 3 different new sockets
05-30-2008, 02:40 PM
Jimmer411

Quote:

Originally Posted by ak_47_boy

wtf @ 3 different new sockets

Yea its been known forever...

Server, performance and mainstream each have their own socket iirc
05-30-2008, 02:42 PM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by ak_47_boy

wtf @ 3 different new sockets

there are only 2 for desktop, 1366 (enthusiast/extreme/Dp server), 1160 (all other) and the 1567 for MP Server.

the mPGA989 is for the mobile segment.
05-30-2008, 03:47 PM
JumpingJack

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Originally Posted by azza21

Hmm..i think the x58 has an ICH10R controller rather then the ICH9R which is holding back SSD drives from reaching there maximum speeds. Possibly FSB 1800?
Someone else will be able to explain more than me :)

There is no FSB in the x58/Nehalem architecture. The speed of interest will be the CSI link clock, but that will be irrelevant since the memory controller is moving on die... hence the reason for the 775 -> 1366 pin count.
05-30-2008, 04:46 PM
Metroid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooper

advertisement is not permitted!!

Where did you see it?

Since Nehalem news is where I first saw the news I definitely would not forget to put a link of where I got it and sure the total credit goes to bit-tech for the article.

That is not an advertisement or marketing related on any way and I will not back off from this. I demand an explanation regarding this.

Metroid.

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