Pretty useless slides. Of course the R7xx will beat the G92, if not, that's pretty sad.
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Pretty useless slides. Of course the R7xx will beat the G92, if not, that's pretty sad.
The RValue770 was never supposed to compete w/ G(T)200, it was always clear that RV770 will focus on G92b. RV770 is 256mm² big and G(T)200 575mm², so they play in a different league.
Anyone who thought that RV770 would compete w/ G(T)200 was just totally wrong from the start.
I guess my disappointment is that they arent telling me anything new. I mean, OF COURSE the new gen card would beat or have more features than the current gen. Or at least I would hope it would. Im sure we all want a postive run from AMD/ATI. Here is top hoping! :up:
Of course they're not telling you anything new, they're not meant for you!
These slides are meant for partners and maybe OEM customers to understand the marketing position of the new products. And I'm sure there are more "depth" to the slidedeck to just FOUR slides.
Audio via HDMI??
GDDR5=lower consumption=higher BW=less complicated PCB=cheaper card=lower prices OR higher margins...Quote:
Second, how come having a card with GDDR5 with lower performance than the competitors card with GDDR3 is an advantage ?
Well this is NVIDIA view=your view, and this is the reason why NVIDIA is so against programmable (Shader) AA resolve, and against DX10.1… simply their architecture is tailored for mem. BW reliant approach to AA… but that doesn’t make it universally correct ;)Quote:
Especially when that advantage is lost when using AA/AF, which is where the GPU needs memory bandwidth the most ? :D
Well they are, but only if AIB chooses to implement the HDCP key on PCB, ‘cos GPU itself doesn’t has it… in contrast to ATI’s GPU’s who have two of themQuote:
The G92 cards are also HDCP capable ( AMD says they're not :D ).
and why would NVIDA disabled them by default?Quote:
Best HD Video experience ? Huh ? We'll see. Unless they're speaking about tests with the default drivers settings for both cards then yes...but hey, ATi has both Noise Reduction and that color enhancement feature ( I can't remember it's marketing gimmick name, sorry ) enabled, while nVIDIA has them both disabled by default.
Yes.
The power consumption difference ain't that much, and I don't really care about it.
Especially when it's too small to make a difference in my electricity bill.
Plus I prefer performance over power saving.
Go figure :p:
But they've been tested & of course the image quality is better with those enabled.
Your logic doesnt hold water here.
First of all GDDR5 cost alot more than GDDR3, specially this early. The extra cost might ofset the PCB and more cost of the 448/512bit etc solution. Lower consumption? Sure, until you raised the performance part. Also at those speeds PCB cost might actually increase. Its more difficult to design a 512bit one. But you need more layers for a highspeed one. Aka GDDR5.
So in reality the card cost about the same.
In the long term it will be cheaper when GDDR5 prices falls and gets refined. But that sure aint now.
They are enabled by default and you can of course change them manually, but when playing HD content (720p and above) Edge-enhancement, Color vibrance and/or Flesh tone correction are not applied in the ATIs unless you edit registry. One thing is what you can see in CCC and other drastically different is what it's actually applied to the image. With SD content yes, all those are applied. Also, all these enhancements only work with certain renderers.
Some people need to be banned from AMD/ATi threads.
Their posts are useless and usually just bashing people or the company and rarely are they true/realistic.
I was going for ATI, but when i saw what they had actually changed in the die i was a little dissapointed... Im going to hold out until both NV and ATI release their cards this time.
No ATI is doing it different since the introduction of RV670. Performance scaling is done in the most easy manors. So I'm 99% sure RV770Pro will be a lower clocked RV770 with GDDR3 instead of GDDR5, hence the difference in power.
RV770Pro/XT refers to the complete boards with frame buffer aswell, not only the GPU itself.