Intel X58 coming out 08 Q4

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05-09-2008, 10:20 AM
YukonTrooper

Where the heck are these Q2 P45 boards? WTF?

EDIT: Looks like June. Piss.
05-09-2008, 10:23 AM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by Blauhung

nope, there will be no more chipsets other then the south bridge on the lower end stuff. all the normal northbridge stuff is now in the cpu package.

Tylersburg will have a different product name for its uses in DP and MP platforms though.

I'll take your word for it:up: But I never implied that it will have a North Bridge and I know it is integrated. Maybe I was wrong but I was thinking the other numbers would apply to the Capella mobile platform, the Piketon business desktop along side with Kingscreek consumer desktop. Unlike you, I can only go by what I read, thank you!

http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/33369/135/
Tylersburg Layout Are these correct?
05-09-2008, 10:35 AM
Aivas47a

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Originally Posted by Yukon Trooper

Where the heck are these Q2 P45 boards? WTF?

EDIT: Looks like June. Piss.

P45 looks like the shortest life span chipset ever. :confused:
05-09-2008, 10:53 AM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by Aivas47a

P45 looks like the shortest life span chipset ever. :confused:

Why? You think everyone will be able to afford Nehalem and not buy these?
05-09-2008, 12:57 PM
doompc

Mainstream Nehalem will only hit the streets in Q2 09, P45 has at least a year ahead.
05-09-2008, 03:33 PM
Richard Dower

P45 will be around for awhile...this X58 requires a major ugrade, mobo/CPU and memory. P45 will be the weapon of choice for a year or so.
05-09-2008, 04:03 PM
Atal

hell yeah!!! I sense Santa Claus will have a lot of hardware to deliver this christmas!!! , aaaa tartar sauce!! I am just building a new X38 system that'll last me till I build a bloomfield system!
05-10-2008, 04:39 AM
Hornet331

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Originally Posted by Richard Dower

P45 will be around for awhile...this X58 requires a major ugrade, mobo/CPU and memory. P45 will be the weapon of choice for a year or so.

only mobo and cpu. there are allready planty of ddr3 sticks sold. ;)

tought i dont know if i should go with 3 or 6gb ram. :ROTF:

first on would be the cheaper one (need to buy only one stick elese i would have to buy 4.
05-10-2008, 09:38 AM
Budwise

what will P45 give us that X38/48 doesnt have besides the ICH10? And what benefit does ICH10 really give?
05-10-2008, 09:46 AM
Aivas47a

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Originally Posted by Donnie27

Why? You think everyone will be able to afford Nehalem and not buy these?

No, I didn't really mean that. I'm sure P45 will find plenty of buyers, I'm looking forward to it myself if I can pull together the $$. What I really meant was, it won't be very long after P45 is released before Nehalem fever pushes it off the front page around here. Whether we can afford it or not you know we're all going to be drooling over Nehalem overclocking, Nehalem benches, etc. :D
05-10-2008, 10:05 AM
Hornet331

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Originally Posted by Budwise

what will P45 give us that X38/48 doesnt have besides the ICH10? And what benefit does ICH10 really give?

first chipset in 65nm from intel. :yepp:
05-10-2008, 10:08 AM
Blauhung

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Originally Posted by Budwise

what will P45 give us that X38/48 doesnt have besides the ICH10? And what benefit does ICH10 really give?

Eaglelake is a process shrink of Bearlake frpm 90 --> 65nm so there's power and performance improvements. From a manufacturing standpoint it lets Intel retool factories up to the more profitable processes. The bulk of the chipset improvements come out in the integrated graphics versions in the form of faster 3D and hd movie playback, although there will most likely be some benifits to top end memory and FSB speeds as well.

ICH10 adds intigrated gigabit and wifi and a few other things i cant remember now. so this reduces the ammout of seperate IC's on the board lowering power consumption and costs.
05-10-2008, 10:12 AM
Blauhung

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Originally Posted by Hornet331

first chipset in 65nm from intel. :yepp:

I'm not 100% sure, but I think Cantiga, the mobile chipset might be out or make it out first. I'll have to do some digging to see if the Montivina platform (i probibly butchered the spelling) has made it out yet.
05-10-2008, 12:00 PM
Hornet331

Cantiga comes out befor eaglelake ... hm interesting, either way im intressted in how the new GMA performs, if it really 3 times faster then the previos GMA3000seriers and uses the same power, i grab a Montevina notebook for sure. :)
05-10-2008, 12:12 PM
Blauhung

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Originally Posted by Hornet331

Cantiga comes out befor eaglelake ... hm interesting, either way im intressted in how the new GMA performs, if it really 3 times faster then the previos GMA3000seriers and uses the same power, i grab a Montevina notebook for sure. :)

yeah, the big improvements are mostly getting better HD movie playback and initial work at getting 3D up to snuff that will be improved with the mobile incarnations of Nehalem (Aubrundale).
05-10-2008, 12:43 PM
metro.cl

Can tylersburg be used with Core 2 Duo & Core 2 Quad?
05-10-2008, 12:46 PM
Blauhung

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Originally Posted by metro.cl

Can tylersburg be used with Core 2 Duo & Core 2 Quad?

nope. It has no FSB or memory controller.
05-10-2008, 12:59 PM
metro.cl

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Originally Posted by Blauhung

nope. It has no FSB or memory controller.

Weird then a big manufacturar screwd up the spec description on a motherboard. Either on CPU or Chipset.
05-11-2008, 12:15 AM
virtualrain

I'm a bit aprehensive to admit this X58 name is real... http://www.nehalemnews.com/2008/05/r...sburg-x58.html

-Chris.
05-11-2008, 02:21 AM
generics_user

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Originally Posted by Blauhung

nope, there will be no more chipsets other then the south bridge on the lower end stuff. all the normal northbridge stuff is now in the cpu package.

Tylersburg will have a different product name for its uses in DP and MP platforms though.

just like amd chipsets, the 790x is just a HT-pcie bridge delivering lanes for graphics cards and 4 lanes for the southbridge ???
05-11-2008, 03:30 AM
Mungri

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Originally Posted by Budwise

what will P45 give us that X38/48 doesnt have besides the ICH10? And what benefit does ICH10 really give?

A lower price?
05-11-2008, 07:19 AM
GAR

is bloomfield going to allow overclocking?????
05-11-2008, 07:27 AM
bowman

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Originally Posted by GAR

is bloomfield going to allow overclocking?????

Yes.....
05-11-2008, 09:40 AM
Blauhung

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Originally Posted by GAR

is bloomfield going to allow overclocking?????

Yes it will. The QPI link is scalable and there will be EE chips with unlocked multipliers. Both will allow you to push up the clock speed.
05-11-2008, 11:09 AM
Donnie27

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Originally Posted by Aivas47a

No, I didn't really mean that. I'm sure P45 will find plenty of buyers, I'm looking forward to it myself if I can pull together the $$. What I really meant was, it won't be very long after P45 is released before Nehalem fever pushes it off the front page around here. Whether we can afford it or not you know we're all going to be drooling over Nehalem overclocking, Nehalem benches, etc. :D

Hey QFT! But as always there will be many folks very happy to buy just off the curve instead of ahead of it;) P965 is still selling now:):up:

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