still lacking features whether you install the software or not.
Either way I dont care, i've been boycotting Creative for years.
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still lacking features whether you install the software or not.
Either way I dont care, i've been boycotting Creative for years.
What's the big deal?
First off, he's not forcing everyone with xfi and vista to buy his drivers. Further, for people who want to try out his driver, he's not making them pay either, but rather accepting donations. Dude's trying to clean up after creative's shortcomings, to be polite. And if people are grateful, they'll donate a little. Hell, at this point, Creative has already made its money off you, since you already own the card. And further hell (;)), if the driver is really bomb, Creative could save money on their own driver dev team and just let him fix things up (sake of point, not accuracy). And then, people may be more inclined to buy xfi cards since they know there are bomb ass drivers available.
Good grief Creative. The only thing bad in your case is that dude is making you look bad. Beyond that, you suffer nothing.
a big point is that he keeps the SBA1/2 up to date and keeps them running so u dont have to buy an xfi and they sound better
and he uses aniso with the sba1/2 were the xfi dosnt support it so it makes them much better
Sounds like his drivers kick ass. Anywhere you can still download these puppies?
Go die in a house fire Creative.
This letter was very nicley written, maybe they should get their communications team to write the code for their drivers.
It took whatever he did to get ASIO working correctly on my machine, as well as my volume slider to remember its place. I wish they would have just employed the guy so he could continue his good work.
Then again, they'd probably knee-cap most of his good ideas if he actually worked for them.
And shortly after after the driver team takes over writing all of their communications would turn into multi-volume, out-dated, badly written garbage...Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn.
Well if i understood the issue correctly, it is that he enabled HW options for pre-XFI cards on Windows Vista, something Creative actually charges its users for. Imo its quite unethical to charge people for drivers for products that arent even that old (Audigy4) and that they have already developed because it was also needed for their newer cards. Regardless of that from a legal perspectve its probably within their rights to do this. A shame Asus forced Auzentech to work with Creative.
The X-fi is the most advanced Audio chipset around at the moment ( At least for Gaming purposes ) so Auzentech really didnt have a choice but to team up with Creative.
Cept that Auzentech's focus isnt on gaming. Any creative card is good at that. Its Audio playback that they dont do that great(Although with pc speakers i dont think the difference would be audible). The issue is that Asus got itself an exclusive deal on the C-Media CMI8788( I think they might have bought the design) chip which was the chip used by Auzentech and quite a few other new audiophile soundcards. With not many alternatives around Auzentech had no choice but to make a deal with Creative. Not sure if VIA's latest audio chip could have been a viable alternative. Anyway creative really need to change their tactics or they re going to become irrelevant soon enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by HellasVagabond
The CMI8788 chip if it is the one found in the ASUS XONAR cards cannot compete with the X-Fi chip.
X-Fi chip is good but if you cant use it then that makes it worthless. All cards that have X-Fi chip must use drivers made by Creative which is not the best thing in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by HellasVagabond
As far as i know AV200 is ASUS mod of CMI8788. I also find it funny how people have to "hand in their badges" in IT industry for jobs to be done right.
So why do you own a Razer Barracuda card ? From what i hear they still havent released a full functioning VISTA driver..........
Really? Damn, did you actually check the Razer website for drivers, maybe?Quote:
Originally Posted by HellasVagabond
http://www.razersupport.com/index.ph...loaditemid=112
Razer has had stable Vista drivers since March 2007. The latest 2.22c fixes minor annoying bugs and i never had any sound corruption or BSOD's with AC-1. I have had Dolby Digital and DTS support since the first driver. Oh and as a side note C-Media is yet to release Vista drivers for the chip used in AC-1, Razer driver team modded the XP one very well.Quote:
Supported Operating System
Windows Vista 32-bit
Windows Vista 64-bit
Driver v2.22c
English
12 Feb 2008 01:16 AM
I should mention that i upgraded from X-Fi Fatal1ty, which is now called Sound Blaster® X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS.
If anything Creative should hire this guy, Creative's driver team sucks major ass, right now I'm using a 3rd party driver "kX audio" for my Creative Audigy and it's only cuz of this driver that is superior to Creative ones in all possible way I'm not concidering an X-Fi (and other brands are too expensive for me and I want one that's good for gaming) as I think my Audigy with these drivers is probably just as good or better than having an X-Fi with Creative's crap drivers. Sound quality and 3D sound position is like perfect with these and I think right now the only way to get proper 3D sound postioning sound in even the consolized UT3 game for PC. (X-Fi users are complaining about it in the forums) :p:
If Creative could improve quality of their drivers, that would be a major lift for the company, the products are fine and price/performance is really good but their driver support is crap.
I own Creative Xi-Fi Gamer but it's the last sound card I bought ever next time I'm going to stick to mobo sound,they support is extremly poor (no new drivers no new utilities)
A guy that owns the Barracuda over at Creative forums said the driver is betaQuote:
Originally Posted by Syn.
and not fully functional. Are you sure the "moded" from xp to vista driver is fully functional ?
v2.22c is BETA the one before it, v2.22b, was not. To be honest it does not seem like a BETA i think they just stick that on because the driver is still being tested, it always works. Yes i am quite sure i can use all features that come with this card which is why i call it "fully functional".Quote:
Originally Posted by HellasVagabond
You dont think other XP drivers where modded to work on Vista? Not many companies have created new drivers from scratch because they dont really need to if it works it works.Quote:
Razer Fidelity™ gaming audio engine - works
Razer Enhanced Sonic Perception™ - works
Integrated 24-bit / 192KHz S/PDIF receiver/transmitter - works
Dolby® Prologic IIx surround processor - works
Dolby® Digital Live 5.1 encoder - works
Dolby® Headphone technology - works
Dolby® Virtual Speaker - works
DTS® NeoPC - works
DTS® Interactive real-time encoder - works
7.1-channel digital audio playback - works
Supports EAX™ 2.0, Aureal3D™ 1.0 and DirectSound - broken on Vista due to DX10
So, as far as I can tell, there's nothing wrong with his X-Fi drivers as there's no issues with enabling hardware locked by Creative?
Can anyone link to Vista x64 modded drivers?
I'm confused as to why people have a problem with this. They state quite clearly that they don't have any issues with him making XP x-fi drivers work on Vista, or enhancing the drivers.
What they have a problem with is making the software for the X-fi cards work with other cards (which I imagine would be 3rd party cards using the Xfi chips as well as older creative cards). When you buy an X-fi card you are paying for the software package as well. When you buy another card (be it an older creative card or a 3rd party card) you have not paid for the creative X-fi software and drivers. Hate to say it, but I agree with creative here...
I never underspend the preselection of software division (driver related) among the biggest companies (ATi, nVidia, Creative...). How could they be so stupid to hire an army of non talented people and do nothing about their situation.
I bet those guys spend 10 minutes per day for Drivers improving/fixing and the rest of the time ( 7 Hours and 50 minutes) it's used for playing WoW, CS or browsing the web and chatting. That's the only way I can explain their results...
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Syn.
anyone have the readme for the drivers?
Creative’s driver team are all morons, I often wonder what they actually do then they are in the office, they don’t do much work that’s for sure. At the very least their Manager should be sacked and replaced with someone that can get results, after all English football has had a few sackings recently.
I wish one day somebody with a good lawyer would sue Creative.
Goodbye Creative, hello Asus.