Best gaming mouse and keyboard?

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03-10-2008, 04:38 PM
Empty_Quarter

Tarantula + G5 2007

Love the combo!

Though I might get a G15 rev2
03-10-2008, 04:53 PM
BrokenWall

Keyboard: Logitech G15 (Rev 1) (bigger LCD, and more G keys)
Mouse: Logitech MX1000
Gameboard: Wolfking Warrior (awesome for FPS, perfect layout, takes a bit to get used to)
Gamepad: Logitech Rumblepad 2 USB (for driving games, and BF2/2142 Jets and Heli)
03-10-2008, 04:57 PM
kiwi

Mouse: G9 (for bigger hand). Or something from razer (lachesis) for smaller hand or if you like smaller mice

Keyboard: G15/G11 or razer lycosa/tarantula

Try all these :)
03-10-2008, 05:04 PM
cegras

Off topic, but for someone who's used a G5, how does the Deathadder compare? I use about 8 grams of extra weight in the mouse.
03-10-2008, 07:25 PM
tiro_uspsss

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Originally Posted by cloned

I use a saitek Eclipse II keyboard and a Logitech MX Revolution.

MXR is waaaay too heavy for gaming imho :down:

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Originally Posted by cegras

Off topic, but for someone who's used a G5, how does the Deathadder compare? I use about 8 grams of extra weight in the mouse.

u talking about the G5 weights? I had G5 v1 & v2, never used any weights, nor do i use any of the weights in my G9 - i said to myself "y the hell would I wanna shift *more* weight, use *more* energy etc etc :D - i'm a lazy bastard! " :D :up:

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Originally Posted by Emerica

I don't know if the Microsoft Natural Ergonomic 4000 qualifies as a "gaming" keyboard but it is damn good...

I have one of those lying around here.. somewhere.. its not bad. careful tho, if u have a fetish for leather, u might find one hand on ur keyboard & the other NOT on ur mouse! :rofl: j/m :D :up:
03-10-2008, 07:56 PM
.sentinel

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Originally Posted by bhavv

To the OP, ignore comments like these from people that dont have much of a clue.

Heres how it works. Lets say you use a desktop resolution of 1600x1200 (not very common, but an easy number to work with).

If you have an ordinary conventional 3 button with scroll whel mouse that is 800 DPI (dots per inch), then in order to move your cursor (or trigger in a game) from one side of the screen to the next you have to move the mouse by two inches (one inch of movement = 800 dots which half of your screen resolution).

Now if you have a slightly more expensive, but midrange 1600 DPI gaming mouse, you would only need to move the mouse by one inch to cover the same area of movement from one side of the screen to the next (1 inch of movement = 1600 dots).

At first you might feel like a faster mouse is far too quick and you are innacurate with it. This is however because your hand and wrist are used to dragging your old 800 DPI mouse for two inches back and forth, so that when you get one that is twice as fast, your hand will need to get accustomed to it. The best way to do this is just play your games XD.

Now if you play at even higher resolutions, which a lot of people do, a higher mose DPI becomes a neccessity in order to play comfortably at those resolutions. at 2048 x 15** whatever it is, you would have to be kidding if you think a Razer Lachesis is over rated and a conventional £10 800 DPI mouse is good enough for every day use. You would likely end up with sooo much wrist strain that you will end up damaging your trigger hand from the amount of dragging you would need to do on your mouse.

Basically, when it comes to picking a gaming mouse, use this information to find one that is suitable for your screen resolution. For example, my 1800 DPI Razor Diamondback is perfectly responsive, quick and strain free to use on my 1280x1024 monito. Any higher at this resolution would be a little too responsive, but my old 600 DPI conventional mouse was a complete joke.

Once you move up to a decent DPI mouse, there is no going back.

Also with gaming keyboards, Macro Keys make them all the worthwhile. Fed up of pressing 1-3-4-2-1-5 every few seconds in an RPG to activate your skills? Assign them to a macro key and just press one button to do the same thing. Also if your using lots of forums and are fed up of typing in your user name and password everytime, guess what? You can Macro them :D

Also I forgot to mention just how great extra buttons on your mose are. For example in a usual 3D game using the WASD movement on an unrestricted movement camera, you would need to press 'W' to run, and the 'A + D' keys to naviagate left and right, but also use your mose to move around comfortably while doing this. Now the fun part comes if you bind the action of the 'W' key to an extra mouse button, like one of the extra thumb buttons on a diamond back. You press the mouse button to run and move the mouse to navigate.

OMG you just freed one of your handz!!! :rofl:

My Vote goes for the Razor Lachesis and Tarantula as quite simply the best ones you can buy. They look a LOT nicer with their sleek black layouts and bright lighting compared to the techno geek Logitech ones, and are bound to get attention from visitors to your bedroom too ;)

Now as for accuracy, I have my Diamondback set to maximum speed 24/7 with 'Enhance Pointer Precision' Activated in the windows mouse setting. It is pinpoint acurate, goes where I want it to, and is a complete pleasure to use. It just makes me wonder how much better the newer ones are, but the ordinary diamondback is perfect for my use :)

LOL There are so many inaccuracies in your post it is not even funny.

First, You don't get wrist strain from moving the mouse a freaking 2 inches. Why do you think most "pro" gamers use mousepads that are any where from 11 inches wide to the amazing 17 inches wide. Because THEY WORK. You get more accuracy and better control the slower your mouse is. You don't need the 4000 dpi NEW G9. I am using a Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical at 400 dpi and when I had my Deathadder I was using 450 DPI. Most pros use 400-800 DPI for a REASON.

Second, I have a G15 and I HAVE NEVER EVER EVER used the Macro keys. Even playing WoW it was simpler to press 5 2 3 1 1 1 5 4 2 3 3 then have a macro that I could never stop. There is no reason to use more than maybe 5 macros.

Third, you say that for maximum accuracy to enable Enhanced Pointer Precision. That means you are turning on mouse acceleration which makes your sensitivity vary based on the speed of the mouse. This hurts accuracy not improves it.
03-10-2008, 08:03 PM
tiro_uspsss

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Originally Posted by .sentinel

Second, I have a G15 and I HAVE NEVER EVER EVER used the Macro keys. Even playing WoW it was simpler to press 5 2 3 1 1 1 5 4 2 3 3 then have a macro that I could never stop. There is no reason to use more than maybe 5 macros.

how come u could never get the macros to stop?
03-10-2008, 08:04 PM
twiggy

G15(old) and a trakball!
03-10-2008, 08:36 PM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by .sentinel

First, You don't get wrist strain from moving the mouse a freaking 2 inches.

dont u? really? oh so *u* dont - good for *u*

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Originally Posted by .sentinel

Why do you think most "pro" gamers use mousepads that are any where from 11 inches wide to the amazing 17 inches wide.

any reason to believe the OP is a 'pro' gamer?
i always thought they had big mouse pads was not cause of the constant large distances covered, but those quick erratic wrist flicks they do in FPS (180, shoot, 180) :shrug:

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Originally Posted by .sentinel

You don't need the 4000 dpi NEW G9

theres a new G9 with more DPI!? :shocked: - i 'need' the extra DPI. u might be happy @ 400-450DPI, but lemme ask u, do u have to transverse 4x 21" CRTs? no? I do, & doing so is a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: @ low DPI

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Originally Posted by .sentinel

Most pros use 400-800 DPI for a REASON.

i've never heard what DPI 'pro' gamers run around on tbh, but if u could provide a link that would be super

Quote:

Originally Posted by .sentinel

Second, I have a G15 and I HAVE NEVER EVER EVER used the Macro keys. Even playing WoW it was simpler to press 5 2 3 1 1 1 5 4 2 3 3 then have a macro that I could never stop. There is no reason to use more than maybe 5 macros.

so what if *u* never used the macros - plenty ppl do. plus macros arent the be all, end all to those g-keys; as bhavv mentioned, the g-keys can become *anything* u want (almost ;) ) shortcuts, passwords, usernames etc etc etc.

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Originally Posted by .sentinel

Third, you say that for maximum accuracy to enable Enhanced Pointer Precision. That means you are turning on mouse acceleration which makes your sensitivity vary based on the speed of the mouse. This hurts accuracy not improves it.

once again, totally subjective - if it hurts *ur* accuracy, tough bikkies, others like it/ want it/ need it

@ OP: i used to run around max DPI in software *&* max DPI on my G9 (hardware) - subjectively, i found this too fast for me, the mouse was jittery. I found the sweet spot to be: max hardware DPI (3200DPI on G9 i have) & 5/10 - 6/10 on software DPI scale. i found that maxing the software DPI was the main culprit for jitteriness. With these settings, all I have to do is adjust the hardware level DPI on the mouse, depending on what game i'm playing or what i'm doing. I use lower hardware DPI for very fast FPS games like Q3A, & higher ones for slower FPS (GRAW & FC). & I hate mouse acceleration, so i dont use it :D :up:
03-10-2008, 10:56 PM
Evi

Razer tech support is very bad, and I highly recommend staying away from their products at all costs. Logitech mice are just as good, if not better, and they are much more reliable.
03-10-2008, 10:58 PM
tranceaddict

I love the RAzer Diamondback 3G.
03-10-2008, 11:36 PM
Kondik

Logitech G11 / 15 [ old ] the new version with orange ambient led sucks deep and hard.

Razer Lachesis .. holds great is great for work and gaming and looks sexi

I'm using it on a Steel Series Black steelpad with SS Surfers and it's a heaven walk working with it [ Phothoshop , 3DSMAX ] and gaming.
03-11-2008, 01:08 AM
Emerica

Really, you can get all of the recommendations in the world but what it comes down to is actually trying the mice yourself. Go into your local computer store can see which one of the recommendations feels the nicest in your hands.
03-11-2008, 01:12 AM
tiro_uspsss

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Originally Posted by Emerica

Really, you can get all of the recommendations in the world but what it comes down to is actually trying the mice yourself. Go into your local computer store can see which one of the recommendations feels the nicest in your hands.

probably a dumb question, but anyhow - u USA folks have that opportunity, yes? trying mice'n'keyboards that is..?

i cant think of a store over here that has that kinda set-up opportunity :( - all the mice i've ever bought, i've had to go by reviews & recommendations like the ones in this thread - it makes buying a mouse a wee bit exciting :D
03-11-2008, 01:19 AM
Emerica

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Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

probably a dumb question, but anyhow - u USA folks have that opportunity, yes? trying mice'n'keyboards that is..?

i cant think of a store over here that has that kinda set-up opportunity :( - all the mice i've ever bought, i've had to go by reviews & recommendations like the ones in this thread - it makes buying a mouse a wee bit exciting :D

Oh wow, little did I know. Stores like BestBuy and Circuit City here setup the mice and keyboards as testers.
03-11-2008, 01:19 AM
tiro_uspsss

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Originally Posted by Kondik

the new version with orange ambient led sucks deep and hard.

y? cause u dont like its looks :shakes: or it doesnt 'work'? :confused:
03-11-2008, 01:21 AM
tiro_uspsss

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Originally Posted by Emerica

Oh wow, little did I know. Stores like BestBuy and Circuit City here setup the mice and keyboards as testers.

u guys are lucky like that - i dunno about the eastern states here in Oz, but over here in the west - no such thing! u either get to 'feel' a mouse/keyboard that a mate has or... play the mice/keyboard lottery :rofl:
03-11-2008, 01:24 AM
SoulsCollective

NetPlus used to do it, before people complained about having sticky residue left on the mouse. Fortunately, most mice I've bought have come in conforming packaging, allowing you to feel the shape of the mouse through it.
03-11-2008, 01:25 AM
Emerica

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoulsCollective

NetPlus used to do it, before people complained about having sticky residue left on the mouse. Fortunately, most mice I've bought have come in conforming packaging, allowing you to feel the shape of the mouse through it.

Yeah, I have seen this as well.
03-11-2008, 01:26 AM
tiro_uspsss

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Originally Posted by SoulsCollective

NetPlus used to do it, before people complained about having sticky residue left on the mouse.

:confused: they complained cause... did NP sell 'em?
03-11-2008, 01:26 AM
Emerica

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Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

:confused: they complained cause... did NP sell 'em?

Retailers here that leave the testers out always try to sell them as "Open Box" items.
03-11-2008, 01:29 AM
tiro_uspsss

that is sooooo gay - cant ppl use their :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing brain - have the mouse testing table, & provide a box of baby wipes, everyone with common decency will use one before testing.. & every so often (depending on amount of testing) a store employee can wipe down the mice, sheeesh *lame*
03-11-2008, 01:30 AM
Emerica

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiro_uspsss

that is sooooo gay - cant ppl use their :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing brain - have the mouse testing table, & provide a box of baby wipes, everyone with common decency will use one before testing.. & every so often (depending on amount of testing) a store employee can wipe down the mice, sheeesh *lame*

I would be pissed if someone sold me an "Open Box" mouse, that is just gross.
03-11-2008, 01:36 AM
Viss

Still love me good old MX510 :D
03-11-2008, 01:43 AM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emerica

I would be pissed if someone sold me an "Open Box" mouse, that is just gross.

they should just buy *one* mouse (of each type/model, ie 1 G5, 1 G7, 1 G9...) then have that as the demo mouse - so everyone only ever tests *that* mouse.. when the mouse becomes EOL, throw it out & claim it on tax! :D (dam i'm getting good at this, should start my own business lol)

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