no WAY. The P5K3 is faster? Thats a first attempt at DDR3...the X48 is the third!
:eek:
Thanks for the testing - shame about the FSB.
IMO we really need a mixture of the features of P35 and X38/48.. PCI-E2.0, improved power phases and massive FSB.
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no WAY. The P5K3 is faster? Thats a first attempt at DDR3...the X48 is the third!
:eek:
Thanks for the testing - shame about the FSB.
IMO we really need a mixture of the features of P35 and X38/48.. PCI-E2.0, improved power phases and massive FSB.
Very interesting results. Sounds like I have one of these boards coming my way also so I'm hoping I can get some decent quad FSB clocking going with sub-ambient cooling. Depressing those comparisons with the P5K, I'd have pegged X38 as being a snappier/tighter chipset.
I haven't compiled the review charts yet, but it looks like the performance battle between the Gigabyte & the Asus is 50-50%.
For example if you check my previous post, you'll see that the Gigabyte is faster in 3D Mark2001SE, whereas the Asus is "significantly" faster in AquaMark 3.
After finishing some reviews that I have to clear fast and are in top priority, I'll do some "benching" comparison between the two ( or even more ) in SuperPi 1m/32m , and the 3Ds to see which one's best for each "scenario".
Thanks for the thread Bill :)
I was interested in this board because my P35 doesn't even boot Wolfy after 3 new BIOSes which are supposed to support it but the perf. there 'aint looking like I want it now. :(
Let's hope it's a BIOS issue, they can help much.
ah ur in luck cuz i use that the stuff ur talking about minus the 8400 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by delewin
rams do good and i usually use the 4.00B strap aka 333mhz.
that'll be about 1800+mhz and 7-7-7-18 1T. 2.15V or so.
i think the thing about this board is bios. i went from f2i to f4h and the difference was stunning! i was getting auto reboots and all at 4.8ghz on dice. once i hit the f4h bios. performance went up and so did stability. no reboots nothing even above 5ghz.
i didnt really do indepth tests but i can say it could be something to do with chipsets too. my friend Harshal from India used a p35 and i the x48t dq6 rev 1.1. we got similiar cpu scores for 3dmark06 at 8332 and 8336. however, my 9650 was running 400mhz slower than his 9770.
perhaps he needs a clean install or something or perhaps it could just be the board? :) just sharing a possibility
asus has always been flying but i must say Gigabyte has been doing a good job so far! taking our feedback and all into consideration.. i dont get mosfets burning at 1.95V anymore! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
Hey NightRaven,
Thanks for the contribution man.
Apart from the dividers problems ( which will more than likely get better in future BIOS releases ) it's a pretty solid board.
One more thing to take review measurements for and then I'm ready to mod the P5K3 Deluxe & take these 2 boards for a good benching test ( gotta know which one's faster and where :D ).
haha u do just that bro. i dont have my p5k3 anymore but imho... the x48 is faster and faster with a better bios.. could be just phsychological but let us know man! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
im awaiting some more super pi runs if you could do them. I have the X38-DQ6 and I would like to see how they compare to each other. My 8400 Max FSB on here was 531Mhz. Once you find the sweet memory strap and timings these boards are a joy to play with.
Good luck with the rest of your benches! Are you going to do any subambient runs?
I'm planning a LN2 session for this saturday/sunday...hopefully nothing unexpected will happen, so it's going to be 3 boards ( P5K3 Deluxe, Gigabyte X48T-DQ6, Asus Commando ) & 2 CPUs ( E8400 & Q6600 ).
I guess it's been quite a long time ( 'bout a month or so ) without any form of bad luck for me... so it was about time...to happen again.
All out of sudden, the board isn't working :(
Looks like there's a short-circuit happening somewhere on the board or it's just a dead component :(
I'll take a better look at the board tomorrow and see what I can do about it.
Damn!
Sorry to hear that Bill, I'm really getting pissed, each board has it's quirks, formula here doesn't go 400FSB /600 ram, P5K Dlx does, Mars no boot (bummer last two are P35 pfff)... why don't we get something that works flat out out of the box... releasing products is nice but I feel that the need to release them earlier then the competition is really more important than the quality of the product... but that has been going on for years now lol... maybe I need another Hobby :)
btw nice benches lately, I need to catchup again :)
ouch sorry to hear man :( which cpu were you testing when this happened ?Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
check if any component blew up or burnt up as well
oh bummer!
yea check mosfets?
its weird cuz i haven heard of a single rev 1.1 die yet!
haha even Mr Kill A Gigabyte T_M hasnt killed this one! :D
The board died while...sitting inside Gigabyte's retail package...
It wasn't running...I had it packed to carry it with me today...
I just unpacked it to check a new CPU for max FSB...but it never posted :(
That's the second motherboard to die on me while doing nothing, and more precisely sitting inside its package.
First I had my old & trusty Asus P5W DH Deluxe die like that...and now this one too.
I know I'm all covered up with the words "Bad Luck Guy" but that much ? :(
What's next ? New QX9650 D.O.A. ? ( knock on wood! )
damn thats some weird stuff u got there bro!
tried another cpu? er running cmos batt other way round and stuff?
3 CPUs tested.
Power up with nothing on it ( still wouldn't )
Test with no CMOS battery
Clear CMOS & no Battery for 2 hours ( "asus striker trick" :D :p: )
Something's short-circuiting the board or something's dead ( no physical damage can be spotted )...and I think it short-circuits with the 12V line.
Sorry to hear that, poke and prod the board for a loose component?
Could someone please do me a big favor ?
I need screenshots from the BIOS ( unfortunately every section ) for the review :(
Oh and if you do that ( I owe you big time :) ) could you please have the timings set to the lowest values, and the voltage settings to the highest values.
Thanks in advance ;)
I can supply pictures of bios for you but it will be a x38 dS6 if thats any good for you and the bios is F8
p.m if thats any good.
i have had a number of asus boards die like that.
found it it was something to do with the ram and it corrupting the bios... you'd turn it on and the only thing that would happen is the fans would come on.
12v/3.3v/5v measure points on the board all seems good. but you'd hit the switch and nothing would happen.
you could pull the ram out and the cpu and it would not even beep at you.
something to think about if you can hotflash the bios chip... or get another one from gigabyte
Thanks for offering m8, my friend Tim sorted me out some time ago ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by -Acid-
Nah, this one's definitely not a BIOS Corruption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
There's something causing a short-circuit somewhere on the 12V rail.
On the other side, my Asus would power on with the ATX 24pin plug only, but would short-circuit and power off immediately with the 4pin ATX plugged in ( probably a dead mosfet )
Any news on the x48 front? I just ordered the gigabyte x48-dq6, so I'll be following this thread closely.
@BenchZoner are you going to be testing a q6600 in this board? just seen the q6600 post. thx
hmm i think i just had the same problem as u with one of my boards bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
but yea i have 2 v1.1s and one died just the way like yours. while my other one is good.
i assume yours has red caps all over?