Max safe D9GMH 24/7 volts?

1.8V is JEDEC std isnt it? :\

Manuf usually say 2.1-2.3....

End users who has actually tried and not toasted says.... If low ripple, stable volts, a decent ventilation (strap a 80 or 92mm fan on 'em) 3.0v for 24/7 use shouldnt be a problem... However, probaly wont benefit... I wouldnt mind using 2.8v for daily... (think it was 2.7v I used for 24/7 back when I used DDR2)

Nor would I mind using using 2.35v for daily on DDR3... and if it'll benefit daily, I'd might even go 2.4-2.5v daily...
But hey, I'm insane ;)

I used some Supertalent rated for 2.35v i was running them at 2.35 but they went bad so i RMA them then the new sticks i have them at 2.35 too but they gone bad too.So now i am using some G.Skill sticks at the same speed but with only 2.00v and i am Ok.

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Originally Posted by M.Beier

End users who has actually tried and not toasted says.... If low ripple, stable volts, a decent ventilation 3.0v for 24/7 use shouldnt be a problem...

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what? who said 3v for 24/7 isnt a problem? :confused:

more likely for DDR1 :D

id say without a fan 2.1V
2.2V if you have good airflow

2.3V + benching quick runs with a fan

2.7V+ - dont do it- unless your going for some insane bench

the fact that micron IC die at high volts, but needs it to overclock (and they such good oc'er) does not help......

i run my D9GMH no fan @ 2.1V - 24/7
4-4-4-12 450MHz

6 months and still perfect

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Originally Posted by saaya

what? who said 3v for 24/7 isnt a problem? :confused:

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That'll be me for instance ;)

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Originally Posted by saaya

what? who said 3v for 24/7 isnt a problem? :confused:

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Hehe, perhaps he meant to say "exactly one period of 24/7", which equals one week. :ROTF: :up:

No seriously, 3V is damaging this kind of process technology for sure. There's no need and no sense in arguing. 66.7% overvoltage from spec can't be healthy.

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Originally Posted by celemine1Gig

Hehe, perhaps he meant to say "exactly one period of 24/7", which equals one week. :ROTF: :up:

No seriously, 3V is damaging this kind of process technology for sure. There's no need and no sense in arguing. 66.7% overvoltage from spec can't be healthy.

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From JEDEC.... Hmm

Well... Whats the default on QX9650 ? 1.1v ? Dont we seem then running 2v+ ? I'd bet a few guys run 1.85v for daily...

But seriously, with stable ripples, I wouldnt mind 3v if they benefit by the extra juice, ofcause, I wouldnt do it on a cheap mobo or setup with a ad PSU...

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Originally Posted by M.Beier

From JEDEC.... Hmm

Well... Whats the default on QX9650 ? 1.1v ? Dont we seem then running 2v+ ? I'd bet a few guys run 1.85v for daily...

But seriously, with stable ripples, I wouldnt mind 3v if they benefit by the extra juice, ofcause, I wouldnt do it on a cheap mobo or setup with a ad PSU...

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run your memory at 3v 24/7, and run your 45nm cpu at 1.85 24/7 if you want, but dont suggest others that these voltages are safe. for how long did you run your memory at 3v? for how long did you run your 45nm cpu at 1.85v? ...

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Originally Posted by saaya

run your memory at 3v 24/7, and run your 45nm cpu at 1.85 24/7 if you want, but dont suggest others that these voltages are safe. for how long did you run your memory at 3v? for how long did you run your 45nm cpu at 1.85v? ...

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Sacha, dont get all excited :)
I pointed out previously in this thread that mine didnt benefit, I ran 2.75-2.8v 24/7 and thats for... 1-1½ year I'd say...

Still havent got a 45nm CPU, only a very few has been sold in Denmark, hopefully I'll get one before next weekend, and yes, it'll get all the juice motherboard can squease out... which sadly is 1.6v straight, however, I'll change mobo soon... And I'll use just as much vcore as it gains mhz, stable ofcause...

does these voltages also go the same with D9GKXs?

man that's some crazy voltage on these OCZ, how do they compare to Team or Crucial? any advantages? Also, does anyone have the link to the webpage that lists all DDR-2 manufacturers and the types of Chips they use in their RAM? It lists everything from A-Data to OCZ etc.

M.Beier your sticks are 1 in a million
i would not use 2.3v+ 24/7 i've had 6 dead sticks @ 2.26v ands sticks are rated 2.35v

Hmm I wouldn't say I've gone as far as M.Beier, but I have never had a worry with D9 running over 2.4v daily, even uncooled. And even my OCZ that I thought I blew up at 2.6v+ are fine and working again after a reformat (turns out it was RAID problem)

I think it is all luck of the draw, but if you run them at the recommended voltage I think you will be safe, if not then you can legitimately RMA them.

I have to say this is specifically why I bought OCZ. I know that if I stick to stock volts, and they die, they will RMA them.

So why do people worry about running at stock volts? I'm sure all these companies who have their D9 sticks with 2.3v stock know much more than we do. I mean, it is their money on the line.

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Originally Posted by WeStSiDePLaYa

I have to say this is specifically why I bought OCZ. I know that if I stick to stock volts, and they die, they will RMA them.

So why do people worry about running at stock volts? I'm sure all these companies who have their D9 sticks with 2.3v stock know much more than we do. I mean, it is their money on the line.

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Often you will see that if a person has had to RMA D9's once, then they probably have done so many times on that motherboard. Perhpas they're motherboard is chewing up the RAM (has been known to happen) but my P5N32E is notorious for being a D9 killer, yet I have more fun overclocking D9 on it than any other board.

It may have something to do with the individual (without pointing the finger)

I got a few sets of corsair and OCZ D9 that Iv'e played with at high voltage and never a problem. Though only my 8500SLI did I run for a year or more with 2.4v (and only one's benched over 2.5v). But with an EVP of 2.35v, you can get pleanty of speed out of that voltage, so theres little point in breaking your warrenty.

hmmmmm M.Beier, what memory are you running at 2.8v?
on what board?

Crucial Ballistix PC6400 D9DQT 2*1GB and it was on a lot of different boards...

P5B-E+ for longest time, however P5W Deluxe (975, dont remember exact name)

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Manuf usually say 2.1-2.3....

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ive noticed mine get fairly warm to the touch at 2.3V-2.4V; ive never tried any voltage over these.
i'm a chicken, value my rams longevity, and use 2.15V:) run around 1066@ 4-5-5. with 6400 hz gskill.

yr asking for dead ram with >2.3-2.4V in my conservative opinion.

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Originally Posted by M.Beier

Crucial Ballistix PC6400 D9DQT 2*1GB and it was on a lot of different boards...

P5B-E+ for longest time, however P5W Deluxe (975, dont remember exact name)

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You did however see that the topic was on D9GMH, which is a different manufacturing process than D9DQT? The fact alone that D9DQT are a 92ball design, in contrast to D9GMH being a 60 ball design, does make a difference here. So what you are doing is comparing apples and oranges.

And no, I don't intend to say that 2.8V 24/7 would be absolutely OK for D9DQT. All I'm trying to say is: D9DQT will always have a better chance to survive 2.8V in comparison to D9GMH.

I've been kissing 3.4v on GKX, which to my knowledge is pretty much a like... They survived... However, that wasnt 24/7, but bench session, so I dont tend to agree..

My third set of D9GMH/D9GKX now (because the others i killed when OC'ing), and I can tell that I should not recommend any voltage over 2.2v for 24/7 use. These CMOS chips not dies because of high voltage, but for heat, so if you want to run, let's say 2.3-2.4v, use active cooling and it should be no risk, but I will not guarantee they survive very long when using over 2.2v for 24/7 use.

I always use an 80mm fan blowing some air and it does very well to the RAM's.

Manufacturers like OCZ that say 2.4v for some D9 based mem's guaranteed is not understandable.

Okay, again, one more last time! :)

There was an article here, on XS, like 1.5 year ago...

I STRONGLY SUGGEST all of you to read it, and it will become all clear! Pls.

Micron D9 and Electromigration

And for those, who doesn't have the time or the language skill, here is the point:

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From what i've concluded so far, for Micron D9 chips 2.4V is the maximum allowable voltage for 24/7 use, considering decent cooling is provided.

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Originally Posted by M.Beier

D9DQT

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Iv just lost my PC6400 tracer at 2.3v with a Corsair dominator fan on it. by the way im from Brazil