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I think the biggest advantage for most people (aside from apps that will take advantage of SSE4 instructions), will be relatively high stable 24/7 overclocks with lower cooling costs.
People who see benching as more important will likely be better off with 65nm parts, unless they have the cash to burn for the higher/unlocked multiplier models.
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Originally Posted by mascaras
Same for me!
biggest disappointed for this model is the 8 multi
been waiting for this for months and finally gave in on a q6600 and now i
have mine prime stable at 400*9 with only 1.32 so temps are nice anyway
i wonder if we could unlock the multi :D just like the old days of athlon-XP
dream on :( best we got now is half multi's back at no penalty to ram
A few places have Q9450 on pre-order for about $350-380 - It's going to be about $100 more than Q6600 at launch (whenver that is)
Got to love low power & low heat, but it's a shame about the low multi :(
P.S. Thanks for the sharing the informative testing Johnny Bravo! :clap:
In the UK a Q6600 is around £160 ($320) so 350-380 for a Q9450 isnt bad, still I'm not impressed by the low FSB.
what does it mean to be an ES chip compared to retail?
Its an Engineering Sample. So its a good indicator as to how retail CPUs will operate at stock frequencies but OCing may change a bit depending on if he has an early or late revision ES as I'd imagine the first samples perhaps dont OC too well and may have bugs.
You can pre-order Q9450, E8400, and E8500 HERE.
Q9450 - $349.99
E8500 - $304.99
E8400 - $209.99
Do the engineering samples of the Q9450 not have unlocked multipliers????
used to in the old days - not anymore :(Quote:
Originally Posted by cliffy
These 45nm quadcores dont seem as impressive as I had hoped =[
Hmm . . . with these results, I wonder if the E8400/E8500 will be a better buy.
Hey Johnny Bravo,
Do you still have your Abit IP35 PRO? would love to see some results with that Q9450 in comparison to the Abit IX38 QuadGT. . . ! :) i.e especially FSB.
Thanks for sharing your results by the way.
I'll see what I can do mate ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nelly
Excellent!! :clap: :bravo: = :up: lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo
we're we really expecting them to be mind blowing thou?Quote:
Originally Posted by scotty1991
afaik this is the 'tock' of intel's 2 cycle approach for which the whole idea was to prepare the smaller process for the next major revision while reducing power and adding a couple of low level features to the previous revision.
Seems as if intel has done that and with the addition of things like that asus epu i think we'll see some really efficiant computing this year.
edit: hahahahah mind u this is xs so wtf!? y ain't they faster (>.<)
I am thinking the e8500 is the way to go for me too. Sigh...... If only AMD had a competitive quad.
looks like a q6600 g0 is the way to go
Great work :up:
I've pre-ordered a Q9450 today. I think its worth the change. Less power, less heat, less noise and better performance :up:
Ok my Q6600 can also do 3800Mhz stable but it gets really loud to keep it cool. With good Cpu and good water cooling Setup the a Q6600 may still be the good choice. But for air cooling i think the Q9450 is the better deal.
greetz
Tim
JB, are you able to get measurements for the systems at the plug? I'd be interested in total power draw difference for the two setups. Total wattage under full load from a kill-a-watt or similar. Half the amp draw in software is impressive, but what are the savings at the plug?
I'm wondering how much of the juice savings is burned up in the higher fsb etc.
Basically.. how big is the KWH/day difference going to be?
Disappointed with Q9450, I just release my Q6600 to friend.
I enjoyed the results, less power consumption, less heat and a similar performance as the Q6600 with lower FSB.
To keep it cooler it will be easy even with the stock cooler and some OC.
Nice test, but I expected more of a 45nm (to bad the multi x8)
Nehalem 4 me. my $ already earmarked for N sys upgrade.
q9300 & q6600's supposedly at same price points.
i will not even consider a 9450 @ intel's proposed pricing.
e8400.
its easy to say q6600 as 9450s arent even avail. yet.
who knows exactly what price jiggling & further tests will result pre nehalem.