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12-23-2007, 04:47 AM
saaya

damn, sorry to hear that victor :(
what volts did you run?
2v vcore?
what vfsb/vtt and what pll voltage?
12-23-2007, 07:53 AM
xgman

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Originally Posted by VictorWang

shamino killed his QX9770 > 2v / 6.08G

Well at least he had fun along the way. :D

I wonder if it is voltage spiking that is the culprit. A spike from a higher set vcore could be quite more destructive I guess.

I'm setting my 9650 at 1.632v in bios which yields me 1.6v actual in bios and windows monitoring programs (1.7v cpu pll & damper on) and that's about as high as I think I should go even on my vapochill LS phase unit.
12-23-2007, 11:11 PM
VictorWang

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Originally Posted by Pete

Victor,

You've pushed the limits on everything and always have won. Sometimes you lose and this is that time. However upsetting it is to lose such a beast of a CPU i know you wont let it beat you down and stop overclocking.

Thanks for sharing, being honest about it all.

Good luck with the RMA. Intel sucks for it but Michell Chan @ Intel China is whom i deal with and she's never let me down on anything.

Keep us posted!

Defo seam 45nm is not a voltage lover at all.

:D sure I wont give up.
let's hope for a smooth RMA process and might be I get another monster :D
Miss.Chan ? I dont have contact with her, she's sales or marketing ?
thx for ur kindly words my friend :D

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Originally Posted by saaya

damn, sorry to hear that victor :(
what volts did you run?
2v vcore?
what vfsb/vtt and what pll voltage?

lol, only 1.45v, 4.6G, got a blue screen when installing OS.
cooling, no prob, voltage, i think it's normal.
things make me so said is that... I dont even have a chance to throw this baby under LN2 :(
or it will be died with some value :D
12-23-2007, 11:54 PM
oscar3d

Sorry for the loss Victor, I came late to the funeral pyre....

But I have a question,after all what I've read in this post.

If it's possible to kill a CPU with high VCORES...(electromigration/heat).... is it then possible to kill a CPU by running it undervolted?

While I'm not benching/gaming, I'm running my QX9650 at stock and very stable at 1.15VCORE.

I know this has nothing to do with going extreme pushing the CPU, but I've been playing with tosee how coolI can keep it on air at stock voltages. AFAIK the standard VCORE to run this chip at stock (3Ghz) is 1.25VCORE. However,I'vebeen ableto keep itvery stable and with incredible low temperatures under 1.15.

I've heard people saying that I can do this with no problem at all,while some other people have warned that you can kill a chip because ther is a big difference in the ohms I'm sending with the lower voltage.

Which statement is true then....
12-24-2007, 12:10 AM
luihed

It totally sucks to lose a great cpu, I hope the replacement is a monster as well.... I had an E6700 that did 570+ fsb on water and it died before I get a chance to use ln2, never knew what happen cos I was trobleshooting my mobo when it happened... I left it alone for a while and it fired up after a few weeks:) it was running really hot though so I took off the IHS, cracked the core and now its really dead lol.....
12-24-2007, 12:38 AM
railmeat

1.8 volts to a penryn and u killed it(electromigration).heh i bet intel can tell u fried it and might not replace it...goodluck i guess.
12-24-2007, 12:51 AM
Spawne32

i would have thought that being hafnium based would have helped improved the duration with high volts. Interesting.
12-24-2007, 01:19 AM
Leeghoofd

Quote:

Originally Posted by railmeat

1.8 volts to a penryn and u killed it(electromigration).heh i bet intel can tell u fried it and might not replace it...goodluck i guess.

Why do they release Extreme CPU's then ? to run at stock speeds :rofl: I think every dead Extreme CPU that is returned they can be pretty sure it had more than stock voltage...:rolleyes:

Let them prove it, how much it had...
12-24-2007, 07:41 AM
VictorWang

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscar3d

Sorry for the loss Victor, I came late to the funeral pyre....

But I have a question,after all what I've read in this post.

If it's possible to kill a CPU with high VCORES...(electromigration/heat).... is it then possible to kill a CPU by running it undervolted?

While I'm not benching/gaming, I'm running my QX9650 at stock and very stable at 1.15VCORE.

I know this has nothing to do with going extreme pushing the CPU, but I've been playing with tosee how coolI can keep it on air at stock voltages. AFAIK the standard VCORE to run this chip at stock (3Ghz) is 1.25VCORE. However,I'vebeen ableto keep itvery stable and with incredible low temperatures under 1.15.

I've heard people saying that I can do this with no problem at all,while some other people have warned that you can kill a chip because ther is a big difference in the ohms I'm sending with the lower voltage.

Which statement is true then....

better cooling will make the cpu BARE higher volts, that's no doubt.
most likely to kill the chip might be "mobo" & "psu",
if mobo's OCP value is too high, the cpu might be killed under Low Volt, same things also happened on memory.
for yorkies, i will not use it >1.4v for 24/7.

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Originally Posted by luihed

It totally sucks to lose a great cpu, I hope the replacement is a monster as well.... I had an E6700 that did 570+ fsb on water and it died before I get a chance to use ln2, never knew what happen cos I was trobleshooting my mobo when it happened... I left it alone for a while and it fired up after a few weeks:) it was running really hot though so I took off the IHS, cracked the core and now its really dead lol.....

debugging mobo should be the most often situation to kill a cpu :(

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Originally Posted by railmeat

1.8 volts to a penryn and u killed it(electromigration).heh i bet intel can tell u fried it and might not replace it...goodluck i guess.

I dont think so, Intel wont care how much volt u put on the chip.
they care only wether the chip is phsically damaged or not. :)
12-27-2007, 06:06 AM
camouflage

;) Good luck to Your RMA Victor - tell the INTEL guys You might also be satisfied gettin' it replaced with a 6GHz 9770................:p:
12-27-2007, 07:32 AM
Ace-a-Rue

Quote:

Originally Posted by VictorWang

for yorkies, i will not use it >1.4v for 24/7.

i guess that i am heading for trouble using 1.52 actual vcore?...eeks!;)
12-27-2007, 01:52 PM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by VictorWang

for yorkies, i will not use it >1.4v for 24/7.
:)

I don't think you have to go that conservative. On great air I would say 1.5v max
Water 1.55v max and phase, 1.6v'ish max (actual vcore, not becessarily what is set in bios) I also think that it may be possible that constant changes to the bios settings may also spike the chip into failure.
12-27-2007, 02:01 PM
HousERaT

Sorry to hear about that chip.
12-27-2007, 03:49 PM
heydo6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue

i guess that i am heading for trouble using 1.52 actual vcore?...eeks!;)

i think you should be looking at 24/7 load temps then volts .

sorry to hear your chip died but i think your right , as long as you didn't lap or remove ihs then they won't care . goodluck
12-27-2007, 05:30 PM
Ace-a-Rue

since i do not do any more than 8 hours a day and in addition to using a TRUE heatsink, my load temps are just fine for about 5 minutes a day.:up:
12-29-2007, 08:48 AM
Ace-a-Rue

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do you think this guy with 1.99 vcore is going to survive?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...167336&page=21
01-04-2008, 09:02 AM
Ace-a-Rue

hey victor, did you get your new processor?

Intel tech support won't issue me an RMA for my DTS readings not working properly...get this; the tech support guy told me not to worry about the temps, the processor will signal the board to shut down when it overheats..GAD!...i couldn't freaking believe it when i heard that out of this guys mouth!!!

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