!!FOUND: Source of G3/8 BSP 1/2" ID metal thermochill barbs & shroud!!

I just recieved my NCIX barbs. I was kinda upset I had to order them from Canada and they would not even take my credit card and I had to have a friend order...

Oh yea I found this Au link online before I ordered but I may as well order them from the moon. Thats about as far away as I could have possibly orded them from lol.

I did not measure with a caliper (don't have one) but my plastic NPT barbs are 6/16ths of an inch ID at the barb end, and the NCIX ones are 5/16ths of an inch (roughly no calipers).

How much will 1/16th of an inch really affect performance? I'm using 7/16th inch Masterclear tubing and hose clamps so I should be able to get a decent enough seal over them. more worried about restriction in the loop.

I already blew $25 on these barbs and I don't really want to spend anymore money. I mean paying $50 or more for more barbs is a bit ridiculous I could have just purchased a second swiftech radiator and crammed it in there. I like the design of the thermochill but when you start getting nickled and dimed on barbs I can't really recomend them as a practical radiator...

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Originally Posted by Gabriel Noraa

Eddy has just added to his shop some G3/8" barbs for 1/2" tubing. Perfect for thermochill rads.

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Who is Eddy, and what shop are you referring to?

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Originally Posted by Jedda

Yes 003, they're tight.
I had to apply as much heat to get my 7/16" ID tube over them as G1/4 D-tek !/2" barbs took elsewhere in my loop.
I've been suggesting the US guys try getting them from GAM for a while now. He doesn't have a 6" cube box as his minimum, like some US online shops. So post could be quite reasonable to the US.

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Great to hear, this does give me confidence, because I can easily apply and remove 7/16" ID tubing to the NCIX barbs by hand, and without any heat. :clap:

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Originally Posted by 003

Who is Eddy, and what shop are you referring to?

Great to hear, this does give me confidence, because I can easily apply and remove 7/16" ID tubing to the NCIX barbs by hand, and without any heat. :clap:

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Eddy, the owner of EK Waterblocks.

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Originally Posted by Justintoxicated

I already blew $25 on these barbs and I don't really want to spend anymore money. I mean paying $50 or more for more barbs is a bit ridiculous I could have just purchased a second swiftech radiator and crammed it in there. I like the design of the thermochill but when you start getting nickled and dimed on barbs I can't really recomend them as a practical radiator...

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$5.95 AU is just under $10US for a pair. Email GAM for postage cost. I think it'll be a pleasant surprise. Last pair he sent to me was in a padded envelope, very small.
The barbs situation in the US is down to Danger Den.

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Originally Posted by Jedda

$5.95 AU is just under $10US for a pair. Email GAM for postage cost. I think it'll be a pleasant surprise. Last pair he sent to me was in a padded envelope, very small.
The barbs situation in the US is down to Danger Den.

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Ill keep it in mind if my $25 NCIX barbs don't work out, but for $25 I think I should try them first...I bought 4 I have 2 thermochills (although one is sitting on the desk)

Who's freaking idea was it to use G 1/4 barbs on the MCR320's??

I went to 9 different stores today trying to get barbs for my rads and couldnt get a damn thing.. order the ones off NCIX I guess.

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Originally Posted by STEvil

Who's freaking idea was it to use G 1/4 barbs on the MCR320's??

I went to 9 different stores today trying to get barbs for my rads and couldnt get a damn thing.. order the ones off NCIX I guess.

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Around here there is an abundance of brass G1/4 barbs (avaliable in my local Ace Hardware) for cheap.:shrug:

Ya the ones I picked up from NCIX about a month ago where too small for 1/2" tubing. Using some worm clamps sealed it, but still I would like it to be a tight fit. I am just hoping they get some more from another manufacturer.

What ones?

I'm grabbing the D-Tek 1/2" OD high-flow. Using 7/16 ID tubing on them though.

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Originally Posted by Nate P.

Around here there is an abundance of brass G1/4 barbs (avaliable in my local Ace Hardware) for cheap.:shrug:

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This is the second time in this thread you've made this assertion, and again I'll respond with a quote of what I said the first time.

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Originally Posted by Waterlogged

You think so huh? I bet if you were to go into any ACE across the country and asked for a BSPP("G") fitting, they'd look at you funny and say "sorry, we don't stock that, but we have a wide selection of NPT". There just isn't enough money to be made on metric fittings for States side hardware stores to carry them in stock. I have Home Depot, Lowes, True Value, ACE, and Valu in my area and can't find a metric fitting at any of them. Heck, even Mcmaster carries a very limited selection of metric fittings, and that place is huge.

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To further back up my statement, ACE Hardware doesn't even list NPSM (American straight thread fittings) or BSPP ("G") fittings on their website.


STEvil, MCR's are actually NPSM threads. NPSM and BSPP ("G") are compatible to a point. I believe if the threads were somewhere around 7/16"-1/2" long is when it would start to become incompatible.

G 1/4 threads on MCR320's now. They changed a while back apparently.

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Originally Posted by STEvil

G 1/4 threads on MCR320's now. They changed a while back apparently.

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Huh?

Their site says "NPSM 1/4" (BSPP/G1/4" compatible)".

http://www.swiftnets.com/products/MCR320-QP.asp

They used to be 3/8 NPT.

Hey Waterlogged,
These guys would have a fit if they ever ran into Sir Joseph Whitworth.
LOL

I think Whitworth would have a fit if he knew his screw thread was being used for pipe. :ROTF:

:ROTF: :up:

http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/produc...roducts_id=228

I expect all the hand wringing that occurs over the relative lack of G3/8 fittings for TC rads in North America should come to an end if Petra's, Jab-Tech and other shops that carry EK start to carry his G3/8 fittings.

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Originally Posted by alejo

http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/produc...roducts_id=228

I expect all the hand wringing that occurs over the relative lack of G3/8 fittings for TC rads in North America should come to an end if Petra's, Jab-Tech and other shops that carry EK start to carry his G3/8 fittings.

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Yes, that's what I wanted to suggest when I said that this fittings appeared on Eddys Shop, probably the solution for us TC rads users, not only in the US, also here in Spain (EU) it´s hard to find proper (watercooling target) G3/8 fittings. They just appeared on EK yesterday, so perhaps it will take some time to be esle where.

too late for me, but maybe I will pickup a set to install next rebuild if I can get them for a decent price.

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Originally Posted by Waterlogged

Huh?

Their site says "NPSM 1/4" (BSPP/G1/4" compatible)".

http://www.swiftnets.com/products/MCR320-QP.asp

They used to be 3/8 NPT.

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http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...cture=Swiftech

"Features and Benefits" and also a comment in "NCIX Forum Mesages" near the bottom ("False Advertised Barb Threads").

Also all of the advertised barbs are G 1/4 none are NPSM 1/4. I also tried NPSM 1/4 barbs yesterday while searching for barbs and none would fit quite properly.

EDIT - on NCIX in specs it lists BSPP compatability and NPSM....

Heck with it.

I'm looking at the TC G3/8 1/2" barbs and Swiftech 1/2" T-piece here and there's something strange going on with the NCIX barbs.
This TC barb is a match for the T-piece end. No way it fits inside like that pic and no way 1/2" tygon is loose on it.
They are really quite nice barbs. Have a good o-ring land and clean threads etc.

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Originally Posted by STEvil

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...cture=Swiftech

"Features and Benefits" and also a comment in "NCIX Forum Mesages" near the bottom ("False Advertised Barb Threads").

Also all of the advertised barbs are G 1/4 none are NPSM 1/4. I also tried NPSM 1/4 barbs yesterday while searching for barbs and none would fit quite properly.

EDIT - on NCIX in specs it lists BSPP compatability and NPSM....

Heck with it.

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Yep, the previous version the MCR QP rads had 3/8" NPT, they then switched to NPSM 1/4". Many sites still say 3/8" NPT like FrozenCPU, P-PCs, Sidewinder, SVC.

The only ones that actually have it right are Petra http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcqposerab1.html

and Newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835108098.

As for NPSM fittings, the only ones I'm aware of are these from Swiftech (go figure :rolleyes:). This is a link to a somewhat obscure page of Swiftech's site about threads. http://www.swiftnets.com/products/NPT-NPSM.htm. Like they say, the threads are short enough on the BSPP fittings that they will indeed work, it's all one big happy coincidence(?:para:).

If they used 1/4" NPSM on their Apogee (that's actually the original version they're talking about), it only stands to reason that all their products would have the same thread for uniformity.

A plea to all water cooling equipment manufacturers: Choose a thread type and get over it!!!

lol :(

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HI!

Yes this will work.
The picture is simbolic at the moment ;)


Best, Eddy



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From: Compras [mailto:******@ce****sa.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:51 PM
To: EK Water Blocks
Subject: 1/2" ID fitting G3/8

 

Hi!!!



Do this fittings suite with thermochill rads??


Thanks for the info.

Aaron

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I was a bit confused with the pictures in EK shop, but Eddy was kind enough to confirm that the pic in the web it's not from the real product. Hope he updates the picture with real one.

Yeah, I'm hoping the EK g3/8 barbs are the same style as his regular barbs. Tubing goes over them very easily.

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Originally Posted by STEvil

A plea to all water cooling equipment manufacturers: Choose a thread type and get over it!!!

lol :(

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Or at least include an adapter like MCmaster (With O rings!) in the package or as a side purchase.