It's a pee peeing contest. Tit for tat.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
It's a pee peeing contest. Tit for tat.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
Is there any official announcement? I recall Asus would give a bios update to support Penryn and that was very official. Are you sure about it Hipro5 or it is just a rumor or a misunderstanding? Intel would not screw Asus like this and Asus would not screw its customers after once announced it a month ago.
Metroid.
Hilbert @ Guru3D said he got a beta bios for his 680i so he could do SLI for his QX9650 review...
Slow your roll guys, the beta bios does exist.
??? To go where...Quote:
Originally Posted by n3wbi3
They products are so good lately:rolleyes:
Here's to you daamit, for the brigher future::toast2:
We got no more...
It's a sad state of affairs for those of us that have 680i boards if this turns out to be deliberate. But, with that said, it would be a wake-up call long overdue nVidia. SLi being restricted to a sub-performing chipset for the only purpose of being able to sell that chipset has been bulls**t since day one.
Oh yes, they would.Quote:
Originally Posted by Metroid
I'm confused. Kingpin showed results 2 weeks ago using a Yorkfield and 680i board with cards in SLI. Scroll down to post #96 here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=159081&page=4
Why is this all of a sudden news that it can't be done, when it has already been shown that it works? :confused:
45nm works on 680i (offcourse), but i dont know how well.
Asus websie is down, but here a copy from what's listed on the asus website.
45nm support:
http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-29...ards-list.html
I guess 45nm Yorkie/wolfie isn't officially supported on nVidia chipsets, but you still could run 45nm on ur Nforce if you're mobo brand gives the bios support.
If its stable i dont know :P
???Quote:
Originally Posted by BND|MOD
yorkfield = 45nmQuote:
It's time to FORGET working a Yorkfield on a i680/i780 chipset...
btw: bad news for nvidia if true
regards
So what people I am sure we will find a solution! After all this is xtreme Systemes and why not turn our 680i boards into extreme waste of money!
I really don't mind at all.. if they don't deliver proper solutions I will not pay them. Simple.
First off, it's not official.....I'm not either Intel or NVIDIA.... :D
Things ARE compicated.....
PART of bios of i680 is given BY NVIDIA to Motherboard manufactures.....
So they ADD this part with their part and they have a full bios (in simple words)......
Now.....EITHER NVIDIA wants to SELL their new upcoming i790 chipsets and they say that it's Intel's fault of not providing them the full info of the York, OR Intel really doesn't provide full info(data) to them......
BUT.....If it is so, then WHY it works on i790 chipset IF NVIDIA doesn't have the full code from Intel?....
I think that NVIDIA wants to SELL NEW chipsets and in my oppinion that's why...... ;)
EDIT: Do you think that I don't want to work my York with my Striker and SLI?..... :D I'm anxius to do so but..... :(
We are talking about RETAIL Yorkfields..... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Scimitar
Also the DFI is not a normal 680i board.Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
SLI and xfire are something a lot of people talk about, but very very few actually do. SLI as a marketing gimmick sold many many more 680's then ever actually got used for SLI. It's for that reason that (up until now at least) it has made more sense for Nv to keep SLI on it's own chipsets since Nv has made a lot more money on the extra chipsets sold than it would have made selling more GPUs by allowing SLI on Intel chipsets.Quote:
Originally Posted by nemrod
Don't expect that to change until or if multi-GPU set ups become more common, or Intel starts seriously screwing with Nv in retaliation.
But with the striker you don't really know if the mobos don't boot due to Not supporting the CPU or just because the mobos refuse to boot... :ROTF: (Troll off)Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
Considering there are not a lot of difference between 680i and 780i, maybe it'll be possible to get some bios modded for 680i mobos.
Their chipsets are good, and just because ATI isn't on top doesn't mean they aren't worth anything. Especially if you can get a HD3870 while the 8800GT is practically non-existent ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by XS Janus
Well I'm so :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing sick of :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty 680i boards that Nvidia just shot themselves in the foot with me. Instead of me buying their chipset, they just lost money on not only their motherboard, but another 8800gtx I would have bought too.
Guess I have to stick to single cards for now because I will never buy another one of their chipsets again.
My next board will certainly not be a nvidia board if this turns out to be true on either Intel or AMD platforms.
SLI really doesn't mean jack for 99% of people.
So silly, no need for this
just for future reference,can someone please send me a beta bios for the striker extreme I spent 350 bucks on this board.If I can't run a new intel I might aswell not buy a new intel chip.There is no reason for me to buy a new board what so ever.
This is soo frustrating
and LONGTERM stability? a bench session is one thing...Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
...but i thought Intel wanted thier yorkie back from you?:rofl:
P35s are good, right. glad i replaced my 650i ;)
As I said in another thread about this same issue, Intel just needed to remind Nvidia who the real boss is. As an enthusiast, I hate to see it come to this (if indeed this is deliberate on Intel's part; which I believe it is), but Nvidia needs to stop being greedy and show some gratitude to Intel for making Nvidia what it is today. Obviously, I'm on Intel's side on this - as every true enthusiast should. Nvidia gets to taste a little bit of its own medicine.
On another note, we're all to blame for this. I'm scared of how a crazed overclocking-inclined few have driven manufacturers to milk the market like nobody's business. Yes, there are advantages to having people like us push components like no test lab would and have the results to show for it.
But what is scary is when you have overclocking gurus working in partnership with manufacturers and enlightening them about the little bonuses which were always there for the serious overclocker. The result? Manufacturers are now putting components under the microscope, cherry-picking, and re-badging the same components or their slightly modified derivatives for twice the amount. Nowadays, there are extreme versions of processors mostly because they're unlocked, something which could easily enabled on non-extreme cpus without extra cost. There are also "KO" editions of GPUs, etc, etc. This sh*t must stop! I'm done.
assuming this is true.....
this is nVidia's fault, amd's fault, intel's fault, and our fault....
AMD aquires ATI, and is able to mass produce better chipsets for their cpu's
Intel has always made the better chipsets for it's cpu's, and AMD knows it will make more money by letting Intel run Xfire on their chipsets than they would by forcing Intel users to use their chipsets. nVidia gambled, and lost, they didn't think Intel would play hardball.
We're to blame for mingling with chipset makers, we should have kept our mingling with the 3rd party mobo manufacturers. We need nVidia/Via/SiS/etc.. to be competitive in the 3rd party chipsets, less we want to pay more for AMD chipsets (can't imagine paying more for Intel chipsets).
Now, what would be funny is if nVidia allows Xfire and AMD allows SLi :rofl: