NextGen VS. CurrentGen CPU: 3DMark06

Printable View

Show 100 post(s) from this thread on one page

11-06-2007, 03:37 AM
generics_user

i don't believe that this runs on a RD790 board :down:

just look at the NB frequency, do they use ganged or unganged IMC mode? (che k kyosens thread for more info on this) , their ram freq is weird (K10 doesn't derive mem clock from core speed like itt used to be on K8), the timings are not OK.
11-06-2007, 03:58 AM
KTE

That 1600MHz HT frequency is I think half of what it should be. It's definitely low and the board either doesn't support split power planes or has no new BIOS support for that. Either way, it's nothing too short of what I expected of this arch by September. None of those CPUs impress me but the new Q9450 and Q9550.
11-06-2007, 04:00 AM
BeardyMan

NB freq shoudl be 2.6ghz and not 1.6ghz , yes it makes a difference, whereas HTT at 266 or 200 doesn't.

Again way to go expreview with this half complete review :rolleyes:
11-06-2007, 04:15 AM
OBR

run some better tests ... 3dmark06 cpu score is not good for performance compare ...

run PCmark05, or some games ...
11-06-2007, 04:18 AM
GoThr3k

expreview ran 3D 06 because there were people requesting that bench
11-06-2007, 04:23 AM
expreview

just like the crysis test,we have say that HT means nothing effi on real world test by destop system.

but anyone know why the HT is 1600MHz? on 200MHzX15 Phenom X4 system.
11-06-2007, 04:43 AM
rozzyroz

Quote:

Originally Posted by cookerjc

here comes 3Dmark06:

thank you for your contribution :up:
11-06-2007, 05:08 AM
knightwolf654

HT means something. it provides direct links to other pieces of hardware with out going through the FSB.
11-06-2007, 05:10 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by knightwolf654

HT means something. it provides direct links to other pieces of hardware with out going through the FSB.

thers no fsb on amd chips (at least not since k7...)
11-06-2007, 05:13 AM
mstp2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by knightwolf654

HT means something. it provides direct links to other pieces of hardware with out going through the FSB.

Currently, on desktop setups, all of the bandwidth of HT1 is not fully utilized. HT3 is pointless on the desktop. The only arena where it provides a significant advantage is in 4P and up servers.
11-06-2007, 05:18 AM
GoThr3k

Quote:

Originally Posted by mstp2009

Currently, on desktop setups, all of the bandwidth of HT1 is not fully utilized. HT3 is pointless on the desktop. The only arena where it provides a significant advantage is in 4P and up servers.

strange
some members in here pointed out that HT1 become satured with only 2 cores
11-06-2007, 05:21 AM
mstp2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoThr3k

strange
some members in here pointed out that HT1 become satured with only 2 cores

Proof please. Hearsay (especially from you) is worth nothing.
11-06-2007, 05:23 AM
knightwolf654

Quote:

Originally Posted by mstp2009

Currently, on desktop setups, all of the bandwidth of HT1 is not fully utilized. HT3 is pointless on the desktop. The only arena where it provides a significant advantage is in 4P and up servers.

give me proof.
11-06-2007, 05:23 AM
GoThr3k

Quote:

Originally Posted by mstp2009

Proof please. Hearsay (especially from you) is worth nothing.

it is posted a couple of times....
just use the search button...

EDIT// if you don't believe it,your problem...
dont complain because you are to lazy to search for it
11-06-2007, 05:28 AM
mstp2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoThr3k

it is posted a couple of times....
just use the search button...

YOU made the claim. It is therefore YOUR responsibility to BACK IT UP.

I'm not your mamma little boy. I won't do your homework for you.
11-06-2007, 05:29 AM
mstp2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by knightwolf654

give me proof.

Will link it when I return from work (I'm late right now and forums are blocked by the proxy at work).
11-06-2007, 05:35 AM
GoThr3k

Quote:

Originally Posted by mstp2009

Will link it when I return from work (I'm late right now and forums are blocked by the proxy at work).

and please dont show of a singlecore.....
11-06-2007, 05:40 AM
knightwolf654

just noticed. i dont know how much the 3.0GHz version will be, i am gunna gues around $400 but looking at those scores. who wants to pay $700 more for a QX9650 for only 1000 more points in 3dmark. intel is overpriced.
11-06-2007, 05:49 AM
Epsilon84

Quote:

Originally Posted by knightwolf654

just noticed. i dont know how much the 3.0GHz version will be, i am gunna gues around $400 but looking at those scores. who wants to pay $700 more for a QX9650 for only 1000 more points in 3dmark. intel is overpriced.

You think AMD is gonna sell a 3GHz Phenom for $400?! LOL

At this rate I doubt if they can get a 3GHz Phenom out before they reach 45nm...

Intel is overpriced? What about the $266 Q6600, which probably beats the 2.4GHz Phenom in most benchmarks.
11-06-2007, 05:53 AM
GoThr3k

intel is overpriced at the high end because there is no competition there
11-06-2007, 06:01 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoThr3k

intel is overpriced at the high end because there is no competition there

wtf are you talking about.... EE was always 999$ (1000€) since the introduction of the extreme editions with the P4... actually the lost money by keeping the price constant since 2004... (inflation)

the other 2 EE you see coming in 08 are more like über extreme editions and its only logical to settle them on a higher price spot.
11-06-2007, 06:08 AM
GoThr3k

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hornet331

wtf are you talking about.... EE was always 999$ (1000€) since the introduction of the extreme editions with the P4... actually the lost money by keeping the price constant since 2004... (inflation)

the other 2 EE you see coming in 08 are more like über extreme editions and its only logical to settle them on a higher price spot.

Why are you talking about EE?
EE is dead as far as i know
11-06-2007, 06:09 AM
generics_user

NB Freq should be much higher at these clocks (IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE AS NB FREQ= L3 FREQ), these tests don't give us any new information, only that they could take an opteron and get the same results :down: :down:

we need results with proper NB speed, DDR3-1066 with the best stimings you can reach with stock chips rated for these speeds for K10 and some vorkfield scores using X38 with top DDR3 speeds supported officially by X38 mobos and ram sticks.

then we can draw some conclusions, but not with these worthles POS tests :shakes:
11-06-2007, 06:12 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoThr3k

Why are you talking about EE?
EE is dead as far as i know

uhn dont play dump...:down:
Core x Extreme = replacement for EE

save your flame baits for mstp2009
11-06-2007, 06:15 AM
GoThr3k

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hornet331

uhn dont play dump...:down:
Core x Extreme = replacement for EE

save your flame baits for mstp2009

i just lowered myself to your level.....
i was merely given an explanation why intel prices are considered high at the high end....

Show 100 post(s) from this thread on one page