Shazza's MM Cube Water Cooling Worklog (pics)

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09-30-2007, 11:29 AM
leo_bsb

I would change the inlet outlet ports on the rad just to bleed it easyer.
BTW, nice work.
09-30-2007, 11:51 AM
Patriote

Looks good! :)
09-30-2007, 12:26 PM
DarthBeavis

Quote:

Originally Posted by louie101086

is g15 really that great i wanted one but dont know weather to get that or razer tarantula

G15 has tons of applets, i have three working G15s and one I gutted for parts
09-30-2007, 12:30 PM
Patriote

Razer Tarantula IMO. :D
09-30-2007, 12:57 PM
louie101086

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patriote

Razer Tarantula IMO. :D

why???
09-30-2007, 12:58 PM
SiGfever

Excellent job! :clap: :clap:

Please keep the pics coming. :up:
09-30-2007, 01:29 PM
shazza

Boys & their keyboards :cat:

I'm happy with my Saitek Eclipse II for now. Will probably add temp display in one of the 5 1/4" bays ... need to use them somehow.

My temps seem okay ... using SpeedFan - ambient is 24 deg C, and idle CPU is about 31 (at slight OC to 2.8GHz), GPU about 40. Haven't done a good load test yet (need to figure out which app to use for the Quad and Vista). After an hour on Prime95, haven't seen the CPU go past 40.

Should be cleaning up my mess, but couldn't resist the chance to check out some bling ('scuse the leaning UV cat):

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y124/shazzasmd/1-1.jpg

From another angle, showing the res:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...attest2res.jpg

And, with the flash, just to show the case better (altho the coolant is not quite that bright in RL):

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...mmcattest3.jpg
09-30-2007, 01:40 PM
Gunlance

Lookin good!
09-30-2007, 01:41 PM
EnJoY

Close it up, finish up any wiring, and take some pics from multiple angles in both light and dark. =) Nice build.
09-30-2007, 02:03 PM
shazza

Quote:

Originally Posted by leo_bsb

I would change the inlet outlet ports on the rad just to bleed it easyer.
BTW, nice work.

You're right, but no issues bleeding so far (and I've had 3 different coolant fills in it in the last 24 hours :p: ). I set the loop up the way I did so the tubing wouldn't cross - guess you could say I'm going for looks here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EnJoY

Close it up, finish up any wiring, and take some pics from multiple angles in both light and dark. =) Nice build.

hehe ... I'm probably weeks away from closing it up. Gotta change out the PSU, actually connect the rad to the fans (I'm afraid I'll puncture it!), and major cable management.

But, DON'T Worry - I won't be posting updates every hour in the meantime. This was a big weekend, as I made some major progress. I was hesitant to post my stuff here, since I'm such a beginner - but everyone has been very supportive, and it's nice to know help is just a post away http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ladance1zi.gif http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ladance1zi.gif http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ladance1zi.gif
09-30-2007, 02:13 PM
Pete

Wow, what review/porject log. Thanks for shearing that. Seams like you learnt load, had tons of fun and very happy and now full understanding why we leave a mess hehe

Nice one 10/10
09-30-2007, 02:43 PM
SiGfever

Quote:

Originally Posted by shazza

You're right, but no issues bleeding so far (and I've had 3 different coolant fills in it in the last 24 hours :p: ). I set the loop up the way I did so the tubing wouldn't cross - guess you could say I'm going for looks here.

hehe ... I'm probably weeks away from closing it up. Gotta change out the PSU, actually connect the rad to the fans (I'm afraid I'll puncture it!), and major cable management.

But, DON'T Worry - I won't be posting updates every hour in the meantime. This was a big weekend, as I made some major progress. I was hesitant to post my stuff here, since I'm such a beginner - but everyone has been very supportive, and it's nice to know help is just a post away http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ladance1zi.gif http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ladance1zi.gif http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ladance1zi.gif

Get a 6-32 tap and tap handle and tap all rad holes. Then just use 6-32 machine screws to attach. This way there is no pointy screw to puncture the rad.
09-30-2007, 02:58 PM
sergers

what did you use to connect the res directly to the pump? barb with threading on each side?

the gap is quite small.
09-30-2007, 03:04 PM
DarthBeavis

Quote:

Originally Posted by sergers

what did you use to connect the res directly to the pump? barb with threading on each side?

the gap is quite small.

check Danger Den's site,
Shaz run 4 instances of Prime to push all ur cores.

I also suggest buying some acrylic mirror (clear or colored) to put on the bottom of your case.
09-30-2007, 07:02 PM
Dark Prodigy

I'm not a fan of MM cube cases.... but I can dig it. :up: Definately waiting to see this one 100%.
09-30-2007, 07:09 PM
Jedda

A mirrored floor would look great with this build :up:

Tarantula has the looks and Eclipse the ergonomics but G15 has that LED screen to go with a heap of supporting apps. Just a pity it's styling is as it is.:(
I think Razor would have a winner if they released a LED screen for that dock port.
While I wait the G15 will do me.
09-30-2007, 07:42 PM
louie101086

thanks jedda but i went with tarantula couldnt stomach the thought of having a keyboard that didnt go with mouse plus couldnt deny razers great products
10-01-2007, 01:32 AM
Marci

Quote:

Marci from Thermochill uses Fluid XP (at least he has in his previous posts)

I can't stand the stuff. I use whatever a customer tells me to use in their rig, despite my efforts to advise otherwise. For my own purposes, I use straight distilled with no additives, no dyes.
10-01-2007, 07:44 AM
DarthBeavis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marci

I can't stand the stuff. I use whatever a customer tells me to use in their rig, despite my efforts to advise otherwise. For my own purposes, I use straight distilled with no additives, no dyes.

I based that on pics YOU posted of a rig. Marci you need to put in disclaimers dude ;)

Laughs at myself . . .publically pwnd :rofl:

Now I will go hide my head in shame. God I HATE being wrong.
10-01-2007, 08:05 AM
Baleful

FluidXP tends to separate over time. Personally I would switch to something else, but i'm with Marci on the no additives. Just watch your loop closely, i've seen more than one test where that stuff will separate on you.
10-01-2007, 09:26 AM
{SKA} Silence

PSU tester

Ok ok I have to show my noob status again. Hey Shazza what psu tester did you use. I need one so I can do the same, and test the different parts and pieces of my build as it comes in before installing.

And nice build!!!
10-01-2007, 09:26 AM
Viper959

Hey Shazza

Great build. Just got a MM case myself and love it.
I would say you want to stay away from Speedfan for your temps though. I have heard they are out by about 15 degrees.
Try Coretemp instead

http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/
10-01-2007, 09:59 AM
[XC] DragonOrta

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper959

Hey Shazza

Great build. Just got a MM case myself and love it.
I would say you want to stay away from Speedfan for your temps though. I have heard they are out by about 15 degrees.
Try Coretemp instead

http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/

It's true that Speedfan is off by 15 degrees on some CPUs, but you can change that in the Advanced tab of the Configure options. Choose INTEL CORE and you can change the temp offset.

Just compare Coretemp .95.4 and speedfan to see what you need the temp offset to be set to.

Shazza, I love the look of the brushed aluminum. :up:
10-01-2007, 01:59 PM
DarthBeavis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper959

Hey Shazza

Great build. Just got a MM case myself and love it.
I would say you want to stay away from Speedfan for your temps though. I have heard they are out by about 15 degrees.
Try Coretemp instead

http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/

I use Speedfan because it is HIGHLY accurate for sub-zero temps . . .CoreTemp and MOSt other temp monitoring methods DO NOT work at sub zero.

For ambient level and above temps I like Everest.
10-01-2007, 02:20 PM
shazza

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Prodigy

I'm not a fan of MM cube cases.... but I can dig it. :up: Definately waiting to see this one 100%.

Thanks. Dark Prodigy ... your v1200 build is one of the ones that really got me interested in trying water cooling. I expect I'll end up with one of the Lian-Li cases down the road as my everyday rig.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthBeavis

Laughs at myself . . .publically pwnd :rofl:

Now I will go hide my head in shame. God I HATE being wrong.

This one gave me a good laugh ... I'll save this quote for a future time to haunt DarthBeavis ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by {SKA} Silence

Ok ok I have to show my noob status again. Hey Shazza what psu tester did you use. I need one so I can do the same, and test the different parts and pieces of my build as it comes in before installing.

This is the one I ordered: http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=2850
I think they are readily available at a number of places. You can also jumper the PSU connector without this, I just felt safer doing it this way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiGfever

Get a 6-32 tap and tap handle and tap all rad holes. Then just use 6-32 machine screws to attach. This way there is no pointy screw to puncture the rad.

Sounds good ... I'll give that a try.

Quote:

what did you use to connect the res directly to the pump? barb with threading on each side?

the gap is quite small.

This is the fitting I ordered: http://www.dangerden.com/store/produ...&cat=34&page=1

I'll most likely also replace the Fluid XP coolant next time I redo the loop.
RE temps ... will also follow up with the programs suggested. The CPU temp I'm reporting is the one reported from the BIOS and from the CPU temp in Speedfan (which agree). Speedfan does show the Core 0-4 temps lower by another 12-13 degrees, which I know can't be right because it's lower than ambient.

Thanks for all the help!

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