AMD Prices "Barcelona"

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09-04-2007, 10:49 PM
dinos22

2Ghz :confused: that can't be right

surely they will have some higher clocked CPUs as well

what about prices on desktop chips???
09-04-2007, 10:56 PM
hawkeyefan

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Originally Posted by dinos22

2Ghz :confused: that can't be right

surely they will have some higher clocked CPUs as well

what about prices on desktop chips???

Didn't AMD say Q4 for 2.1-2.4Ghz Barcelona parts? Phenom pricing and launch speeds=:shrug:

I just want this all to end. So tired of waiting, lol.:shakes:
09-04-2007, 11:05 PM
misteroadster

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Originally Posted by v_rr

You are comparing a 2way Xeon to a 8Way AMD. Duh :eek:

Inform yourself a litle before posting. :up:

There:
AMD Opteron 2300 Series 2.0 GHz 95W $372

Intel Xeon 5130 Woodcrest 2.0GHz Socket 771 2U $347.99

25$ diference. That´s realy a very very mutch :yepp:

Yes, you're right, i was terribly tired yesterday :eek:
09-04-2007, 11:40 PM
Proesterchen

I guess so much for the 'higher launch speeds' hypothesis. With this launch line-up, I'd be surprised if we see much beyond SPECfp_rate2006 and whatever other bandwidth-intensive benchmarks AMD can scramble.
09-05-2007, 12:16 AM
XSAlliN

120W - that's not acceptable because of Global Warming :ROTF:
09-05-2007, 12:16 AM
nn_step

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Originally Posted by XSAlliN

120W - that's not acceptable because of Global Warming :ROTF:

Then you better stop overclocking your Conroe :rolleyes:
09-05-2007, 12:29 AM
Shintai

For those comparing prices..please..try compare a 3.2Ghz Dualcore OPteron with a 3Ghz Quad Xeon..yes thats right. You cant compare these prices at all!
09-05-2007, 02:23 AM
naokaji

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Originally Posted by Proesterchen

I guess so much for the 'higher launch speeds' hypothesis.

well... those are the server parts...

the "official" desktop parts are not due before q4.... so it could be (and would make sense) if the higher clock speeds talk was in reference to those and not the in a few days to be launched server parts.

just my 2 cents though
09-05-2007, 02:29 AM
mstp2009

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Originally Posted by LOE

if yields are not good chips will need much more voltage to stay stable, and will displace more heat

amd has a lot of orders from clients who want to upgrade their blade servers from dual to quad core, and they demand lower TDP chips, that chips are old, probably B1 or even older

back then yields ware not very good, thats why amd concetrated on lower slock speed and TDP parts, but the rummors now indicate current yields are pretty good, even amd said they expect a very quick K10 ramp up

I hope high clock desktop parts come sooner than amd previously said, the initial 2Ghz chips will give us good indication of performance per clock, and what a 3Ghz chip will bring

WHAT rumors indicate current yields are good?

There has been nothing official or unofficial that we have heard from AMD that yields are good. Even AMD fanboi Charlie came out saying he heard yields are NOT good thusfar and it is one of the reasons the release speeds are not set higher.

BTW, AMD always undercuts Intel on price at the exact same performance level - so I think this price sheet is the best indication of performance for K10 that we have thus far.

Basically on par w/ C2Q.
09-05-2007, 02:45 AM
SOLDNER-MOFO64

Why are people still bleeting about clockspeeds? Is this connected to E-PENIS or sumthing? Intel's clock to 4Ghz so even if K10 were to have double the performance of said Intel cpu but at a mere 2Ghz you'd be sad and feel annoyed at the fact your CPU doesn't do 4Ghz too?

I couldn't care less about what GHZ BADGE I get on my new AMD cpu....for me the important part is whether or not K10 has higher PERFORMANCE than INTELS counterpart......not higher CLOCKSPEED :rolleyes:
09-05-2007, 04:06 AM
Jacky

yeah, but it's sad that almost every detail (coolaler, dailytech info, pricing) leaked until now indicates otherwise (k10 losing in overall performance big time).

5 more days to go..
09-05-2007, 04:24 AM
Proesterchen

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Originally Posted by naokaji

the "official" desktop parts are not due before q4.... so it could be (and would make sense) if the higher clock speeds talk was in reference to those and not the in a few days to be launched server parts.

I was referring to this, which was clearly referencing next week's Barcelona launch:

http://www.dailytech.com/Barcelona+L...rticle8592.htm
09-05-2007, 04:32 AM
XSAlliN

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Originally Posted by nn_step

Then you better stop overclocking your Conroe :rolleyes:

I don't have Conroe (AMD user here), but this CPU is intended for near future. :rolleyes:
09-05-2007, 04:59 AM
Morais

68W for a quad core?! thats awesome...my next buy for sure:)
09-05-2007, 05:16 AM
informal

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Originally Posted by MR_SmartAss

What about the leaving of Henri Richard. Does that speaks enough about the success of K10?

Lol,that's has zero to do with K10.Like Rahul Sood said,the dude didn't get pay the way he thought he should so he went for a better deal(Freescale).

What about the one of head PRs in intel ,Lee Brooke,who left intel a month ago and went overboard to AMD??What that tells you about intel's Harpertowns?Nothing.This is pure money issue.
09-05-2007, 05:26 AM
EvlUndrWareNome

ok fanboys, hold in ignorant commments till reliable hardware ships.

as in when its on newegg.
09-05-2007, 05:59 AM
dave_graham

man, people really seem to like my blog posts. :P

cheers,

dave
09-05-2007, 06:07 AM
[XC] gomeler

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Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan

Guys, this if for the server chips, so you compare it to Clovertown, not Kentsfield.

I'd rather compare the DP Phenom's to the Kentsfield as Phenom isn't looking promising at all. 6 days before launch and no killer benchies doesn't bode well :down:
09-05-2007, 06:16 AM
dave_graham

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Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler

I'd rather compare the DP Phenom's to the Kentsfield as Phenom isn't looking promising at all. 6 days before launch and no killer benchies doesn't bode well :down:

whatever...no one is positioning Barcelona into the consumer space at all. So, why AMD should bother with 1-2% of their install base is really beyond me. *shrug* The folks that really are going to care about this stuff are (in no particular order):
sun
hp
dell
other whitebox manufacturers
boxx

dave
09-05-2007, 06:31 AM
informal

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Originally Posted by MR_SmartAss

Who is Lee Brooke? :confused:

As you can see,you are clueless.OK now,move along to topic title.No need to bring off topic into this.

As Dave explained,the main customers for these parts are not enthusiasts but large companies like SUN and HP,dell etc.
09-05-2007, 07:23 AM
v0dka

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Originally Posted by dave_graham

whatever...no one is positioning Barcelona into the consumer space at all. So, why AMD should bother with 1-2% of their install base is really beyond me. *shrug* The folks that really are going to care about this stuff are (in no particular order):
sun
hp
dell
other whitebox manufacturers
boxx

dave

I see what you mean, and ofcourse youre mostly right.

But I do believe that Conroes huge succes was at least partly because of the fantastic marketing campaign that Intel launched very early on. And that campaign included spectacular benchmarks, the ES were even better than retail CPU's! Now maybe that is a bit too much to ask, but AMD should learn from that.

Also, I dont really believe that it's only 1-2% that actually knows what the better CPU is. In this time and age, almost everyone checks the internet to see what the best stuff to get is. Reviewers, resellers, webshops, everyone contributes to the general idea of what the best CPU or system is. That increases the amount that cares way beyond 1-2%, I think.
09-05-2007, 08:05 AM
Pete

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Originally Posted by informal

Lol,that's has zero to do with K10.Like Rahul Sood said,the dude didn't get pay the way he thought he should so he went for a better deal(Freescale).

What about the one of head PRs in intel ,Lee Brooke,who left intel a month ago and went overboard to AMD??What that tells you about intel's Harpertowns?Nothing.This is pure money issue.

Pretty sure Intel and AMD have a contract for staff stating they are not allowed to work for ether or soemthing for so long long of a duration of leaving ether parties
09-05-2007, 08:10 AM
terrace215

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Originally Posted by SOLDNER-MOFO64

Why are people still bleeting about clockspeeds? Is this connected to E-PENIS or sumthing? Intel's clock to 4Ghz so even if K10 were to have double the performance of said Intel cpu but at a mere 2Ghz you'd be sad and feel annoyed at the fact your CPU doesn't do 4Ghz too?

I couldn't care less about what GHZ BADGE I get on my new AMD cpu....for me the important part is whether or not K10 has higher PERFORMANCE than INTELS counterpart......not higher CLOCKSPEED :rolleyes:

Given that we KNOW the IPC of the K10 is roughly that of 65nm Conroe family, GHZ corresponds DIRECTLY to performance. :rolleyes:

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