Samsung may be eyeing up AMD and Acer Packard-Bell

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Originally Posted by gdogg

isn't it against the law to be a monopoly in the usa, so if samsung did purchase amd, and lost the x86 licence , wouldn't it be in intel's best interest to renew it to samsung, to avoid having major lawsuits?

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It is perfectly legal to achieve a monopoly in an area of business.

What is not legal is using a monopoly you (legally) acquired in one area to blackmail other companies in the intend to achieve another monopoly in a second area.

That means in the first area you got the monopoly because your products in area 1 are better and/or cheaper. But in area 2 you just say "buy my area2 product or you won't get any area1 products either". The latter is what is forbidden.

INQ credible? Entertaining sure, reliable, no.

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39110

:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by vitaminc

Inq has been in business for long and got bought out by private equity group, so it must be really good at something. Rumors alone won't cut it.

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Number of clicks and tabloid sensations have nothing as such in comon with truth and reality. They didn´t buy them for being good at finding true stories. But being good at getting focus and hits over tabloid articles.

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Originally Posted by red

INQ credible? Entertaining sure, reliable, no.

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39110

:rolleyes:

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Sometimes, but we were talking about some of there sources, sometimes they get it right, I have seen it, but when the inq gets it right, its normally not exclusively them talking about

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Originally Posted by gdogg

Sometimes, but we were talking about some of there sources, sometimes they get it right, I have seen it, but when the inq gets it right, its normally not exclusively them talking about

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Its easy to get something right if you try enough times.

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Originally Posted by Shintai

Its easy to get something right if you try enough times.

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True, thats why my parents always say, if at first you fail, try try again :rofl:

The INQ follows this rule perfectly.

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Originally Posted by red

INQ credible? Entertaining sure, reliable, no.

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39110

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uh, they clearly stated that its a RUMOR, unlike the tabloid news you read on the supermarket check out line.

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Originally Posted by Shintai

Number of clicks and tabloid sensations have nothing as such in comon with truth and reality. They didn´t buy them for being good at finding true stories. But being good at getting focus and hits over tabloid articles.

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crying wolves only works for so long.

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Originally Posted by vitaminc

crying wolves only works for so long.

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I dont know, people still link fudzilla, tg and theinq.

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Originally Posted by Shintai

I dont know, people still link fudzilla, tg and theinq.

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Rumors are fun though and sometimes lead to the truth of the matter getting found.

the inq might have a bad reputation but sometimes there spot on.
remember the first note on the inq that AMD would be buying ATi. many ppl here thought that was just another made up inq tale. and look what happened...
Samsung + amd it makes sense, + it would make Samsung the biggest it firm in the world.
they have the motive and the money.

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Originally Posted by zert

the inq might have a bad reputation but sometimes there spot on.
remember the first note on the inq that AMD would be buying ATi. many ppl here that was just another made up inq tale. and look what happened...
Samsung + amd it makes sense, + it would make Samsung the biggest it firm in the world.
they have the motive and the money.

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Ye, and AMD buying nVidia, Intel buying ATI, Intel buying nVidia. AMD might buy ATI, AMD wont buy ATI. They had to get something right.

Samsung+AMD would still be over 10billion$ revenue behind Siemens.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...hots/6619.html

Next 10 years are going to be the "acquisition years". Expect to see the 1200 semiconductor companies go down to 200.

No idea if this is rumor holds much water though.

ummm interesting story but that is all it'll ever be

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Originally Posted by Shintai

Number of clicks and tabloid sensations have nothing as such in comon with truth and reality. They didn´t buy them for being good at finding true stories. But being good at getting focus and hits over tabloid articles.

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Exactly, they live on rumors get with it.

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Originally Posted by Shintai

Ye, and AMD buying nVidia, Intel buying ATI, Intel buying nVidia. AMD might buy ATI, AMD wont buy ATI. They had to get something right.

Samsung+AMD would still be over 10billion$ revenue behind Siemens.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortu...hots/6619.html

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The cases of AMD buying nVidia and nVidia buying ATI has actually been talked and discussed.

Multi-way bidding/negotiating war like the current ABN Amro drama is pretty common in the M&A field. But of course only 1 deal will be marked on history, that is the AMD + ATi deal.

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Originally Posted by Verisimilitude

Next 10 years are going to be the "acquisition years". Expect to see the 1200 semiconductor companies go down to 200.

No idea if this is rumor holds much water though.

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uh, rumor is for something that is happening or has happened. predicting things over the next 10 years is, fortune telling.

but judging from the design cost at 65nm/45nm, I don't think that 'rumor' of yours is false. semiconductor industry will be M shaped, where only very large companies (intel, samsung, ti, qualcomm) and very small start-ups could exist.

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Originally Posted by trans am

You forgot cases, water blocks and psu's..maybe OCZ should place a bid?

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You got to be kidding, those items are easily and cheaply sourced. Samsung already makes their own cases anyways and should have plastic fab labs to whip up such a thing.

Many aren't aware(at least if you live in the US) but Samsung makes laptops as well, and I do believe for the most part they make them themselves, not outsourced ODM like Dell, HP, and most of the industry.


Anyways, this is very interesting I wouldn't brush it off. I agree it would be somewhat logical to imagine Samsung having an interest in AMD, and according to different rating scales, generally Samsung is considered the world's largest semiconductor producer. They have the money, and they could have the motives. Similar situation back when rumours flooded about AMD purchasing ATi, but I didn't even believe it back then.

There is no doubt in my mind that someone will buy AMD, this does make scence for Samsung. Just imagine the powerhouse

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Originally Posted by Pinnacle

There is no doubt in my mind that someone will buy AMD, this does make scence for Samsung. Just imagine the powerhouse

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A powerhouse that can't make x86 CPUs.

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Originally Posted by [XC] Lead Head

A powerhouse that can't make x86 CPUs.

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Kiss up to Intel

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Originally Posted by saaya

why do they think samsung buying amd doesnt make sense?
x86 cpus and gpus is all they need to build an entire pc.

display check
dram check
graphics dram check
compact flash check
hdd check
optical drive check
gpu missing
x86 cpu missing
mainboard missing

who cares about mainboards?
thats as trivial as a pc case in the end...
if samsung has their own cpus and gpus they can basically create an entire samsung pc, everything in house.

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Samsung has a lot of production capability & money to put into R&D. It might also speed up the adoption of newer memory tech. They'd have mainboard, well chipsets at least, shouldn't be too hard for them to make some PCB's too.

Samsung buying AMD would get them everything but the Case, PSU, Soundcard & Cooling, which they could easily either buy a company or 2 or develop their own.

As for the x86 question, they might well get kicked out of the EU if they hold the monopoly on x86 CPU's. Considering how the EU is going for Microsoft, Intel being the only x86 supplier would be easy pickings for fines & sales bans. It would be in Intels best interests to either open up x86 or give Samsung/IBM/nVidia the same licene deal AMD gets.

However I doubt it will happen for a long while, if at all.

I live in South Korea and Samsung is a giant. Its nice for samsung they use slave labour to cut costs and have a huge r&d department. If samsung swallowed up and AMD it would be a small hickup. South Korea will be eventually renamed to South Samsung LG Hyundai Lotte Korea. These companies virtually run the country there is nothing out of their reach.

They make everything.
Cars
Trucks
Ships
Heavy Equipment
Electronics of all Kinds
Elevators
Escelators
Furniture
Chemicals
Consumer goods.

ETC.. There is more.

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Originally Posted by Wrench

I live in South Korea and Samsung is a giant. Its nice for samsung they use slave labour to cut costs and have a huge r&d department. If samsung swallowed up and AMD it would be a small hickup. South Korea will be eventually renamed to South Samsung LG Hyundai Lotte Korea. These companies virtually run the country there is nothing out of their reach.

They make everything.
Cars
Trucks
Ships
Heavy Equipment
Electronics of all Kinds
Elevators
Escelators
Furniture
Chemicals
Consumer goods.

ETC.. There is more.

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Thats what Im seeing, ANYTHING is possible if you have the money, this minor x86 licence thing could be easily solved.

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Originally Posted by Pinnacle

Thats what Im seeing, ANYTHING is possible if you have the money, this minor x86 licence thing could be easily solved.

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The only way they would get a license is to buy Intel.

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Originally Posted by Shintai

The only way they would get a license is to buy Intel.

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or pay off about 52 more members of Congress and have the US government bend patent law again :p: