K10 slower than C2Q in Cinebench, clock for clock!

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Originally Posted by Vapor

Because of the scaling of Cinebench, you can't compare 4 core vs. 2core. We'll need an underclocked Quad-FX system and C2Q system to do full comparisons....

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Spot on. Where is Movieman w/ his Kentsfield? He does a lot of benching on that machine.

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Originally Posted by gOJDO

:rofl: Again you failed to make a point and made a clown of your self.
Please quote the part where I said Barcelona! :slap:

BTW, don't you have anything better to do than picking on me?
I mean, stop tingling my balls. If you have something to say related to the topic which will contribute to the thread and will help others, then go ahead and say it. If you just have to say something, go to MIRC or other chats. Don't waste my bandwidth.

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make a point, made a clown of me, i just replied on 2 items of on your comments that are plain wrong

1) cache and latency does make a difference on a k8, you stated it didn't.
2) not all k10 have the same cache size.

again... it can't be barcelona because they used an am2 board, or the wrote down the wrong chipset or it was a budapest placed on an older am2 board.

@Vapor no wonder that we reply on him if you see most of his value added comments.

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Originally Posted by gOJDO

The highest clocked RAM that Barcelona will support is DDR2-667.

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Where did you get this?

Barcelona will support up to DDR2-1066.

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Originally Posted by duploxxx

1) cache and latency does make a difference on a k8, you stated it didn't.

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It's less than 1-2% in just about every application. Sure, it's there. But the difference is tiny.


Plus, if we are bit#$ing about 1-2% differences when we are talking about K10 visa via C2Q, there are bigger problems afoot.

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Originally Posted by gOJDO

That wouldn't be a K10. Rana would be a K8 Athlon64 X2.

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How it can be K8 with 256bit bus to L1 cache, 2x128bit bus to L2, 128bit SSE, and other improvements from K10??

Have you got any prove to your conclusion that Rana is K8??

I think this was the most telling line of the whole article:

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We only had a few minutes to test the chip, but we were able to run a quick Cinebench before we were instructed to leave.

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You don't scoot people away and try to keep them from running benchmarks when you have something hot to show off. You do that when you don't have all your ducks lined up.

This is not a benchmark I'd expect would change much at all with K10. K8 is allready strong at it, only slightly slower than core. Would certianly expect some improvement though, and to outperform core at least.

What we know of the K10 arch suggests it works on the K8's weaknesses, and not a lot more. Should see some interesting results when we finally start to see more benchmarks, If benches where K8 was weak don't fly with K10, then we know there's a problem.

lol gojdo reminds me of myself first few months at xs :p

And this is how I was dealt with back then ;)

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