ATI R600 FULL Launch Line Up: R600XL Info !!

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05-07-2007, 09:14 AM
Shintai

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Originally Posted by LowRun

Working fine here.

I think he refers to nothing to see there.
05-07-2007, 09:16 AM
theteamaqua

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Originally Posted by Shintai

I think he refers to nothing to see there.

yes nothing to see is the same as broken link
05-07-2007, 09:19 AM
deathman20

*rubs hands together* 7 more days :)
05-07-2007, 09:20 AM
XeRo

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Originally Posted by theteamaqua

yes nothing to see is the same as broken link

suppose to see nothing.
05-07-2007, 09:23 AM
LowRun

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Originally Posted by theteamaqua

Not Working fine here ..

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o.../Shot00121.jpg

That's it. You didn't expect the review to be up now, right?
05-07-2007, 09:26 AM
theteamaqua

umm, no , not until couple minutes ago when i saw the word unfinished
05-07-2007, 09:37 AM
LowRun

I guess this is just a sibylline teaser to get a free traffic increase until the NDA is over.
05-07-2007, 09:45 AM
Ron 61

"82 degrees C on the outside of the cooler" Thats a show stopper. No way in hell I'd put that sh*t in my machine.
05-07-2007, 09:55 AM
mascaras

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Originally Posted by Ron 61

"82 degrees C on the outside of the cooler" Thats a show stopper. No way in hell I'd put that sh*t in my machine.

stokcooler is for girls :p:

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Originally Posted by theteamaqua

yes nothing to see is the same as broken link

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/299/r6000ocfq0.jpg

regards
05-07-2007, 10:02 AM
Ron 61

I don't run stock coolers, that just a rediculous amount of heat to have to move out of the case. Maybe they will give out coupons for discounts on air conditioners.
05-07-2007, 10:31 AM
DoubleZero

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Originally Posted by Hicks

Im afraid it's to late now.

I understand, you must be tired already of playing all your Dx10 games.
05-07-2007, 10:36 AM
wedfighter

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Originally Posted by theteamaqua

yes nothing to see is the same as broken link

yes it's broken link :(
05-07-2007, 10:44 AM
mascaras

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Originally Posted by wedfighter

yes it's broken link :(

the link was this >>> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&postcount=34

UNFINISHED R600 REVIEW @ VR-ZONE

regards
05-07-2007, 01:17 PM
ownage

you mean this link to VR-zone? http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4946&s=1
05-07-2007, 02:09 PM
Magnj

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Originally Posted by DoubleZero

I understand, you must be tired already of playing all your Dx10 games.

lol, good call.:fact:
05-07-2007, 02:13 PM
theteamaqua

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Originally Posted by mascaras

8800GTX has 64TMU

but we cant compare the X2900 32TMUs with the 8800GTX 64 TMU´s , the X2900 TMU´s run with higher clocks

the x1900 also had less TMUs and in complex shader intensive games they had advantage , and the ratio in R600 is even higher , with x1900 the ratio was 3:1 , now with R600 the ratio is 4:1

regards

where does it says 64TMU/?? does it like multiply 2 or something

i tihnk ROP/TMU all run at core speed, so yes R600 has advantage over G80s ... but shaders?? GTX runs at 1350MHz ...
05-07-2007, 02:18 PM
dietwaterrr

im confused. so the r2900xtx will be out in oem on may 14?
05-07-2007, 02:48 PM
deathman20

Thought it was going to be refered to as the XT model. Just more memory thats all.
05-07-2007, 02:51 PM
TG01

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Originally Posted by XS2K

I wonder how will HD X2600XT 512mb GDDR4 perform against 8600GTS 256/128.....

8600GT/S has 32 Shaders that are a bit more advanced than the ones of G80...

No comparison.. at all..!

Even my 'old' X1900XT256 kicks the 8600 where it hurts.. and again..
05-07-2007, 05:23 PM
Daveb2012

wow that x2900xt is so ugly, I will change stock cooler bec of that alone.
05-07-2007, 05:29 PM
XeRo

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Originally Posted by perkam

Tech:

8800/8600: 80nm
HD 2900: 80nm
HD 2600/2700: 65NM

Perkam, I'm pretty sure the 8800 is 90nm
05-07-2007, 05:35 PM
mascaras

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Originally Posted by ownage

you mean this link to VR-zone? http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4946&s=1

yep that link

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Originally Posted by XeRo

Perkam, I'm pretty sure the 8800 is 90nm

yep , 8800 are 90nm

regards
05-07-2007, 06:21 PM
turtle

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Originally Posted by perkam

Basically the major differences are:

Shaders:

8800GTX/Ultra: 128 Shaders
HD 2900: 320 Shaders
8800GTS: 96 Shaders
8600GT/S: 64 Shaders
HD 2600: 120 Shaders

Perkam

Um. G80 is 2+1, but as mentioned millions of times, the +1 (MUL) is left to special function, and not general shading. R600 is 4+1. A better comparison is 256 vs 320; although those shaders in R600 will also have to do be special function...but perhaps more dynamically with less dedicated resources. G80's shader clock obviously does have a good bit to do with why it remains competitive. The same being true with R600's core clock and TMUs.

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Originally Posted by XS2K

I wonder how will HD X2600XT 512mb GDDR4 perform against 8600GTS 256/128.....

Ok. This is how I run it down. Simplistic and not completely scientific, but bear with me. Say a x2900xt is less powerful to a 8800GTX, but more-so than a GTS, which I think is where it will land. Some may think they will end up equal...Who knows. HD2600 has 37.5% the shaders of R600, and 8600gts 33% of the GTS, although with a slightly higher shader clock. Both have approx the same butchering of fractions of the higher-end parts concerning TMUs/Rops/bus. The difference remains in the clock speeds on the core/shader clock and total gflops.

R600 = 10flops (vec = 2 flops, scalar = 2 flops)x64x750 = 480Gflops
G80GTS = 3 (2 scalar+ 1 MUL) x1200x96 = 345.6
G80GTS = 3x128x1350= 518.4
8600GTS: 3x32x1450 = 139.2
HD2600XT?: 10x24x800? = 192

Notice the R600 compared to the 8800GTS and 8600gts versus the hypothetical HD2600 are almost exactly the same ratio apart (72-72.5%). Bandwidth is eerily similar on the lower-end parts as well. Coincidence? As Alex Cross would say, I don't believe in coincidences. The texture rate is also similar on R600 vs the GTS, although through different means. Strange eh?

As for the ram, all things being equal, I don't see how 128-bit parts could find usefulness in 512MB of ram.

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Originally Posted by theteamaqua

where does it says 64TMU/?? does it like multiply 2 or something

i tihnk ROP/TMU all run at core speed, so yes R600 has advantage over G80s ... but shaders?? GTX runs at 1350MHz ...

TMUs: Yes, they do, but no, it doesn't. 575x64 > 750x32...yet strangely equal to GTS;or rather 500x48.

GTX runs at almost twice the shader clock, but has less active shaders because the mul is devoted to special functions. 256x1350 < 640x750. It comes down to efficiency of the competing architectures, and how much of R600's shader ops are used for special function.
05-07-2007, 06:31 PM
nn_step

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Originally Posted by Daveb2012

wow that x2900xt is so ugly, I will change stock cooler bec of that alone.

think less about looks and more about performance :cool:
05-07-2007, 06:37 PM
deathman20

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Originally Posted by nn_step

think less about looks and more about performance :cool:

Agreed. I personally even with a window mod on my old case, if I looked at the case for more than a few seconds? Sure might not look good but thats not its main purpose, its to do its job. Secondary can be how cool it looks.

Besides that as we all know, aftermark coolers are where its at for cooling anyways so you will eventually pick out your own if you choose to do so.

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