Jeebus, that thing is huge. 2 pumps in series at minimum to maintain a good flowrate I would bet. :p: $150.00 not bad considering its from Performance. You would have to have a spare wall to mount it on. ;)
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Jeebus, that thing is huge. 2 pumps in series at minimum to maintain a good flowrate I would bet. :p: $150.00 not bad considering its from Performance. You would have to have a spare wall to mount it on. ;)
This thing can handle up to three loops it seems... wonder if it would be better than three PA 120.3s running their own loops each, CPU, GPU, Chipsets..
I have a single RD30. Do you think that would be enough to run this rad?
I'd say 1 RD-30 or 2 DDC2's w/ Petras tops in series would be enough, but that's just a guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by chunkylover77
How would you handle the four barbs? Plug two up?
I'm now itching to try. Strangely, there are few reviews, even in the German forums.
Not as good as Aquacomputer :D
aquacomputer..........:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by IanY
I wonder how a 250mm fan would do on a rad?
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...3118d0e02b0fb6
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...3118d0e02b0fb6
I have been thinking of making a computer desk that would have the water cooling built into it. I think this rad would be perfect for that. As long as it didn't suck.
what about the side or top panel of a mountainmods cube? should be big enough, the only thing that i can see go wrong there is that the tubes would have to make a pretty tight bend because of the placing of the barbs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hard H20
if such a big pump is already needed for this, what kind of pump do you guys recon a mora would need? let alone an airplex evo 1800(15 120mm fans, condensor type tubes):
http://photobucket.com/albums/v281/j...ck/ape1800.jpg
MORA ROFL That thing is like the ultimate flow killer. Not killer, it simply massacres flow.Quote:
Originally Posted by skane
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Re: the Magicool as originally pictured... inspect it closely. It's 3x Alphacool Nexxxos Extreme 360 cores (same manufacturing company, same core, same radiator - modified endtanks)... refer to testing done on such...
Now look at the endtank arrangement and how the passes work.Quote:
Pressure Drop...
ThermoChill PA120.3 - 6%
Watercool HTFX3-x - 14%
HWLabs BlackIce GT360 - 17%
HWLabs BlackIce GT360 XFlow - 17%
HWLabs BlackIce Xtreme - 17%
HWLabs BlackIce Xtreme XFlow - 17%
Watercool HTSF - 17%
Cooltek MCR320 - 18%
NexXxos Xtreme - 23%
Pass1 runs down 10 tubes, pass2 runs back up 5 tubes, pass3 runs back down 5 tubes, pass4 runs back up 10 tubes. So it steps down from 10 tubes to 5 tubes back up to 10 tubes, with 5 cavities of pressure drop en-route in endtankage between inlet and outlet...
23% pressure drop on a regular 2 pass... suddenly gets a bit larger when you make it an off-balance 4 pass.
If making it a fair test, should be 3x of any other 120.3 footprint rad piped in series vs the Magicool... NOW which would you choose? (consider ease of bleeding of the two methods also)Quote:
well 10 bucks says this rad has more cooling ability. And anyone who cares to argue that point should go sit in the corner and take a time out.
Just a guess, but I would say this rad will handle 3 computers just fine. As long as you arnt running WCG on 3 kentsfields at 3.5GHz the water temps should stay nice and low.
if you look closely at the pic it looks like its just 3 3.120 rads screwed together
That's exactly what it is - it's 3x Alphacool Nexxxos Extreme 360 cores (ie: Magicool 360 cores rebadged to Alphacool) with modified endtanks, with a wrapper around them for fan mounting (with no rebadging). That's it, plain and simple.
we understand that it s a pressure killer, but how about heat dissipation?
don t hit me but: why would I mind of my flow if I used a big head pump?IE: iwaki
I mean: my pressure is gonna drop big time but I could not care less as I have plenty, but what do I get ?
lotsa power dissip for very few bucks?
marci: please explain me wether this suposition is false or not
thx :)
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Originally Posted by Marci
this magicool thing should b easier to bleed if them blue things are for bleeding.
also its cooling surface is pretty hard to beat on price.
a thermochill 120.3 costs about 93 euro this magicool thing costs 100 euro.
P-PC's are selling LianLi343B's with these mounted ontop and they look pretty sick.
@ Duh, Using this forums favorite fans, it doesn't perform too well. Put some louder fans on it and it's a different story.
@Starscream, those "blue things" are a different form of TIM.Quote:
2 - Performance order (best to worst) based on final coolant temp, cooled with YateLoon 120mm fan - lower the "k" figure (difference between coolant temp and air temp), cooler the coolant, therefore better the performance...
At 600rpm:
Thermochill PA120.3 - 7k
Watercool HTSF - 8k
Watercool HTSF3-x - 8.4k.
Cooltek Maxistream / Swiftech MCR - 8.4k
Black Ice GT - 9.2k
Black Ice Extreme - 11k
Alphacool NexXxos Pro - 11.2k
Black Ice GT X-Flow - 12.1k
Black Ice Extreme X-Flow - 12.3k
Alphacool NexXxos Extreme - 14k
At 900rpm:
ThermoChill - 6.2k
Cooltek - 6.9k
BIGT - 7.2k
WC HTSF - 7.3k
BIGT-XFlow - 7.3k
WC HTSF3-x - 7.4k
NexXxos Pro - 7.5k
BIX - 8.5k
NexXxos Extreme - 8.5k
BIX-XFlow - 9.5k
At 1200rpm:
ThermoChill - 4.2k
Cooltek - 5.6k
BIGT - 5.7k
BIGT-XFlow - 5.9k
BIX - 5.9k
NexXxos Pro - 6.1k
NexXxos Extreme - 6.1k
HTF3-x - 6.3k
HTSF - 6.3k
BIX-XFlow - 6.6k
@Mankz_91, IMO, Hank seems to have fallen off his rocker with some of his latest "creations".
So who is going to be the guinea pig?
can you please provide a link please?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mankz_91
Cmon man not that hard to find, it was on the home page:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=21901
sorry dude for me P-PC's is pc power and cooling
I live 15 k km away from USA ... I do not know all your acronyms
You still can't bleed the middle pass... the "blue things" are only on the outer two chambers, that center chamber is one big airlock waiting to happen...Quote:
this magicool thing should b easier to bleed if them blue things are for bleeding.
I'm not saying this as ThermoChill... I'm saying, if given the choice, I'd rather pick 3x 120.3 footprint rads from any other manufacturer that we know to perform better than the Nexxxos Extreme Core...
Three of ANY of the above brands/models would outperform the Magicool Nova... so if 3 of any of those brands came to the same price, but offered better performance, you'd take it wouldn't you (?)...Quote:
ThermoChill - 4.2k
Cooltek - 5.6k
BIGT - 5.7k
BIGT-XFlow - 5.9k
BIX - 5.9k
NexXxos Pro - 6.1k
Fully aware, but like I said... ANY manufacturer. 3x MCR320's price vs price of this - bit more appealing in terms of performance...Quote:
a thermochill 120.3 costs about 93 euro this magicool thing costs 100 euro.
Eh?? Those "blue things" are just blanking plugs to allow you to connect 2x parallel loops up to the rad.Quote:
@Starscream, those "blue things" are a different form of TIM.
I'm just trying to suggest folks don't blindly look at it and profess it godly just because of it's size... look at what it actually is... look at the alternatives out there to it... the majority of the alternatives are a "better" solution.
from what i see, 2 mcr320's would be competitive for price(100 vs 110), do you think that they would tie or win in performance too(both restriction and raw cooling performance)?
multiple triple rads would be more flexible for mounting too, never thought if it that way.
Depends where you are. For us in the UK, 3x MCR320 would win hands down on price and performance.
In UK, 3x MCR320's will cost you £96 (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...57&subcat=193), and the Magicool Nova £117 (http://www.vadim.co.uk/BlastFlow+Ext...20mm+Radiator).
(S'great - disproportionate exchange rates for USD : GBP and EUR : GBP)
Course it'd win vs 2x MCR320s. You can only compare 3x120.3 vs the Nova. It will always win over anything else with less surface area.