K10 cpu-z screen caps...

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Originally Posted by VVJ

Furen, what is Fudzilla? I have never heard about any Fudzilla. But thanks to kyosen I know that Fudzilla is just a poor fake-maker. They don’t know about K10 anything. So, here we need official comments from the author of CPU-Z in order to stop this meaningless discussion.

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fudzilla is ran by an ATI fanboy that used to work for theinq.
So to be short Fudzilla is like theinq but with a diffrent site layout.

and that CPU-z ID on fudzilla is a fake.
someone here on XS said he made it and mailed it to fudzilla for fun.

Bruce Lee whooped Chucks A$$....heheh

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Originally Posted by kyosen

I asked about Fudzilla's K10 CPU-Z screenshot to Franck(=CPU-Z author, of course) today, and he replied as below:

"Yes it is a fake. cpuz does not even try to read a L3 on AMD CPUs, so there
is not way it can detect any L3."

So, we need more time to know the real K10 information...
...but still I love Fudzilla:D

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However, Franck was assuming that the screenshot was from a non-patched version of CPUZ...
CPUZ is easily patched and this is done quite often by those who write and test the bios. Now you have to ask yourself, who is most likely to actually have an ES chip right now? Could it be an engineer that writes and tests bioses? Wouldn't they need to modify the way CPUZ reads the bios for info if they were working on a new model of CPU?

@Viditor
You have no idea what you are talking about!
1. You can't patch CPUz, unless you have the source code, which will have some modifications, then being compiled and linked and finally to generate a patch.
2. The BIOS has no common point with CPUz. CPUz is only a util which displays your system specs, based on known data and does nothing more.
3. There are no ES and if someone has one and wants to share some info about K10 with the public, he would probably do more than just a camera shoot of a monitor with CPUz displayed. At least he could try to validate, which is easier then to make a photo with camera, transfer it to PC, resize it and upload the image to an image sharing server.

In other words, ALL ARE FAKE!

:rofl:

There are ES of Barca/Phenom/AMDs new gear now.

Does CPU-Z read BIOS to gather info? Or does it read PLLs?

I cant really see AMD ES holders/testers bothering to patch CPU-Z to get windows info somehow

It does niether. It detects the installed hardware and shows information based on known specs given out by the manufacturers.

So how does CPU-Z display our OC info, BIOS-set RAM timings etc?

By using CPUID instrucion, reading MSR (machine specific registers) and PCI devices (such as memory controller). CPUID will tell you familly , model, stepping, chache size and other various informations regarding CPU. Reading some MSRs you can obtain current multiplier. By using timing functions or RDTSC instruction one can obtain CPU speed thus calculate HTT(FSB) and other speed. Using IN and OUT intrsuctions and knoving how PCI address space is organized, one can access for example memory controller (or hypertransport controller) and read timings (also set new timings). This is how I wrote A64Info.

Haha clasic dude , I think this is old dude ,
Whats the chuck multi

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CHUCK NORRIS 4EVER!
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I pity da foo that don't wait for Intel's next Conr....I mean "Jack" batch of CPUs.

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Originally Posted by Viditor

However, Franck was assuming that the screenshot was from a non-patched version of CPUZ...
CPUZ is easily patched and this is done quite often by those who write and test the bios. Now you have to ask yourself, who is most likely to actually have an ES chip right now? Could it be an engineer that writes and tests bioses? Wouldn't they need to modify the way CPUZ reads the bios for info if they were working on a new model of CPU?

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Welcome Viditor - I see the AT forums are really really dead. A word of caution . Don't try your AMD fanboy stuff here these guys are way to sharp . Trust me I know. From experience.

Anyone know what date the new cpus got pushed back to I read some article yesterday that they were being delayed

Jacky chan is going to whoop that assssssss :D