Onepagebook and his 3D benchies...

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Originally Posted by Pedro Rocha

Kevin (or one of the members of this vast fan club) is completely free to came here and give some clear explanations about this AND about their SuperPI "tweaks"

I did that when I discover the ACPI tweak that allows me and Ricky to break the 40K barrier in 3Dmark01 few years ago..

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yeah that's true but what if george just simply compared apples and oranges.....we know Kevin is a primadonna and will not join this thread if his life depended on it because he;s too proud

i donno it doesn't look like all options are exhausted yet to claim this is a cheat as you and hipro are insinuating i donno.....excuse my ignorance if i'm missing something here :confused:

i don't think you guys are sure either as he would have been banned or stripped of his status here for SuperPI thread "tweaks"

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Originally Posted by boblemagnifique

Because, That make nearly 2 years that it makes mysterious scores :eek:

Because, they is explanations dont prove anything each time (vidéos either, I see) :rolleyes:

Because, that do much of because :D

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and the thread derailment begins :D hahahahahah :p:

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Originally Posted by buttertoast

(and, hwbot IS buggy. Also check out this score
http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=559573 and many others...)
(i didn't state Kinc as a faker - used that to prove that hwbot has errors)

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Not a bug, Kinc didn't enter the gpu clocks ;)

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Originally Posted by dinos22

george KP benches nvidia....he would know betterhow to hit sweat spots than OPB don't you think....just a wild guess but the amount of experience thetwo guys have my money would be on KP in 3D

the only thing that stands out are the drivers really

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I guess you are right, kinkpin is the true master of nvidia gear..

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Originally Posted by buttertoast

Same chance of OPB not putting a tick in "SLI/Crossfire" ;)

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Correct

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Originally Posted by PallMall

I don't believe the guy is capable of controlling LN 2 with 3 pots at -90 for the vga's ,knowing that hes only begon to start and beat the master himself just like that, that just ain't going to happen.

I have a theory, i will post it soon when i have teh resulst, it's pretty easy you know, and the guy is using the same crap again for sure :)

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actually OPB does have a smart way of benching with LN2 which gives him more control so you should actually look into it before you post something funny :p: i'm serious :)

Kink you just have to admit that somebody is better than you, that's all
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yes, I know I'm not a good bencher at all
yes, I know I'm not a international star of OC
yes, no one knows me here

but I've got a brain too, and I think (I don't affirm!!) that a tweaks/OC/bench guru can type three numbers without typo error....
furthermore when his previous benchies (spi i.e) were not accepted by many of the world's best benchers...

OPB :bow:

Why do you have to bring hostility around? Cause he can tweak better than you? Cause he typed in a wrong digit?

ROFL..

and it starts again.. this thread is so :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing lame

and started by the person who left his own team on hwbot to give xs a lead over ocx :rolleyes:

the super-pi issue is solved as far as i'm concerned...
all one has to do is like 100 runs and one run will often come out substantially faster and create the differences seen in OPB/coolaler runs.
they are most likely just bugged runs imo
super-pi is far from consistent

I have noticed that if I do a search of dual or single card it keeps showing me dual card results. That was a few days ago maybe its been fixed.

This is quite sad indeed.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he missed the SLI checkbox, but either way, his clean sheet and integrity have been blemished a while ago.

Sad.

Well...tweaks can make up those FPS I think, if you really tried.


I`m 90% sure that the score submitted is single card, so only 2 pots to control.

I controlled (without style or grace) 2 pots with my first ever runs so with some practice, sure its possible to run "properly" with 2 pots, single handed.

I think its a mis-type. Anyone here never made a spelling mistake?

Storm in a teacup.

when i see the title of the thread i think OPB opened this thread as he likes to talk about him like third person :).

i am in xs nearly 4 years and never seen somebody blamed for nothing. there always been a suspicious score for someone but when a thread begins about it he comes and explains how it is done and everything is solved.

now if there is no fire then why it is smoking. and it begins to smoke too often. he is not coming here and defend himself because of his proud i dont think so, bacause he cant defend himself in a place like here he needs to defend himself in a place that he has more supporters. what i believe he is a talented cheater.

he needs to open a thread in here named like onepagebook answering questions and has to give satisfactory answers to questions.

Here we go again. Let me get this straight. All that would have to be done is to mistype an entry and you call him a faker. Why would someone with copper rev.2 vga MousePots bench at stock speeds? Use some common sense guys. Didn't OPP make the same mistake earlier and nobody at TeamOCX was calling him a cheater or fake. When will you guys learn how to properly handle a result in question? You don't start threads and call people a cheater without asking the person first. Its common sense people. Hipro I respect you as a world class voltage guru, but your actions recently have definitely called into question your character. It really is a shame that threads like this repeatability pop up at XS. Once and for all can we not end this BS between certain members here at XS directed towards OCX?

that 05 is a fake or he is still not saying any thing to us .
with thos clocks u should only get about 120fsb in 05 canyon flight , tested it by my self M8 .
now im telling u 05 had some nice little tweaks for ATI X800 but notthing yet for 8800GTX !

but this is gone be a flame war again , so ppl calm down and if u dont have anything good to post like aaarrrggg its a fake again . then plz shut up :)

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Originally Posted by PallMall

There is no way that you can gain 8 FULL FPS in GT1 at same cpu speeds with lesser GPU cards.
There is no tweak that can do such magic :)
And to push it even further, when you tweak the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out of nvidia cards your GT1 wil go down slighty only giving advantage in GT2 at its minimal and GT3 full.

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there is if the card and cpu are on completely different chipset/platforms.

Guys, just don't know, i haven't investigated the scores but i know it ain't easy to top scores coming from k|ngp|n for one.

I mean, how difficult can it be to just step in here and say: "sorry guys, i just mistyped the VGA speeds" ?

I think Hipro has done his homework to come out with these questions.

I'm keep myself from condemnation, i know Kevin is a master in tweaking memory, it's possible he has more tweaks up his sleeve that we can think of.

Hey Pallmall...i`d be willing to give what I said a try, but i`m minus a CPU. :( Thats another kettle of worms..

If this is still an issue when i`m back up an running (if I still have the gear) i`ll give it a shot

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Originally Posted by Zeus

I mean, how difficult can it be to just step in here and say: "sorry guys, i just mistyped the VGA speeds" ?

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Very difficult if you're not online.

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well it could have to do with the beta I sent him

This is a strong reminder to everyone posting in this thread to keep it a civil and constructive discussion. Any flaming will be dealt with swiftly and decisively.

DDTUNG:cool:

It's unfortunate that Futuremark still does not put up correct card clocks and people have to write them in the descrription on the ORB. Now the top overclockers are not even putting them there so you have to go to hwbot to find them. I request that people put video card clocks in the ORB like in the past, it makes it easier for viewers to see details.

It could easily have been a typo on hwbot, there is no denying that.

Another discrepency though is the SLI runs in 05 for Kingpin and OPB. They have very similar clocks but OPB is quite a lot higher in both GT, GT2 and GT3. As GT1 and GT2 are both cpu dependant and GT3 is more graphics dependant ( I assume at this level still ) then this means that two tweaks must be applied that Kingpin is not doing, one for cpu and one for gpu. Other possibilities are bug or cheat but again we will never know for sure except that is high and I doubt OPB will tell XS what his tweaks are, nor will he admit to cheat or bug so we are no nearer to pinning it down one way or another.

Once again you'll just have to make your mind up one way or another unless we can have some more 3d bench stats to make a case.

Personally I'd like to see a video of one run from boot up from all the top benchers nowadays which is in the ballpark top score, I'm still not sure if that would be 100% proof but it would be in the right direction.

Regards

Andy