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i cant see any familiar voltage controllers on the board... I would hope its the chip at the bottom right corner of the socket (well the black plastic included), hard to see the scale, might be a HIP.
The controller on the EpoX 4PCA3+ is pretty hopeless :(
What is the date for the 865 BIOS compared to the 875 BIOS at present ? If it is a lot newer then it might be worth waiting for a new BIOS for the 875 before buying the 865 ?
Regards
Andy
That's not the FSB-jacking I'm refering to, Entuscan.Quote:
Originally posted by Entuscan
@Zroc
Well the 865P and 875P Asus both do the same amount of fsb jacking, both running @ 202pointsomething stock.
making a 3.00Ghz into 3.03
The one I'm refering to is the type of jacking that only happens applications are launched, and aren't detectable by CPU-Z/WCPUID/Intel CPU/Sandra and the likes.
Tom found it here:
http://www17.tomshardware.com/cpu/20...800fsb-01.html
See? It's weird...the FSB gets jacked up 6.5% ONLY when an actual application launches. I don't rely on Tom's for much of anything, but I found that to be a pretty amazing find.
I'm not flat-out saying that's what's happening, but it certainly could be something to that effect. Or they could've found something to turn on PAT (that's be cool)...who knows?
All I do know is, this doesn't make any sense at all (particularly when they're beating their OWN high-end board).
We won't really know until somebody actually compares this thing to another board, and then takes a look at BOTH at different levels of overclocking at equal intervals.
If the thing falls off a ton when overclocking compared to another board, we'll know something's up. For that matter, if it won't OC as well to another board, it also could be a sign of trouble.
Looking forward to your report, OPP!
I'd advise any thinking of this board to wait until someone really puts the screws to it.
c'mon OPP, let us know.
Can anyone comment on the IS7 from Abit yet?
IOf it performs similar to the IC7, then I definantly will get the IS7 instead.
The vanilla IS7 even comes with LAn :D
Well I have the Asus siting right here. None of these IC chips are familiar to me. We need an expert on these mods. I'll hook it anyway and see what shes got going:D
OPP
Good luck Opp ! what cpu are you going to be using ?
I know you have the HyperX for ram.
All I have is a 3gig 800 chip.
OPP
Good luck Opp !
I picked up a 3.0c too yesterday so I'll be working this week end with a P4C800.
I'll keep looking for a link for some vmods but still haven't found any yet. I looked the board over and located the Vdimm regulator chip, but I'm not familure with it. I thought it might be the same circuit as on the P4G8X but not sure.
That was quick, OPP ;)
Actually, that's cool...I wanna see what you can do without modz anyway.
What board are you comparing it to?
If possible, compare the two at stock, and at different levels...let's see what Asus is pulling here.
You da man...
Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Well I have the Asus siting right here. None of these IC chips are familiar to me. We need an expert on these mods. I'll hook it anyway and see what shes got going:D
OPP
cant be any worse than this EPoX board i've been trying to get modded :(
tiny tiny legs on the Vcore chip which is like the most complicated piece of crap i've ever seen :(
try pin-tricking the CPU? didnt work on this board, but might work on the ASSus ;)
interesting find there zroc......
can you prove that FSB jack by 6.5% opp?
hmmmmm.....
AssM@N,
hehe guys nice work. Keep us posted
macci,Quote:
Originally posted by macci
I know it sounds wierd. Did a similar 875 vs. 865 test myself too (using DFI 875 and Albatron 865) and w/ both mobos running w/ a 3.0@4010MHz and overclocker R9800 the 875 was 1000Marks faster.
you hinted that you modded the vMEM on your DFI PRO875 in another thread could you post the details for all of us to see (in another thread or PM me or something)? Thanks. And, check your PM, please.
Sorry for the OT post.
No mods needed, unless you want to go above 1.95V.Quote:
Originally posted by OPPAINTER
Well I have the Asus siting right here. None of these IC chips are familiar to me. We need an expert on these mods. I'll hook it anyway and see what shes got going:D
OPP
http://www.abxzone.com/forums/showth...threadid=45385
Phalanx28
I'm looking for a Vdimm mod
I have seen several posts saying that by increasing the Vagp that it also affects the Vdd ??? Sounds goofy to me but I hope its corect.
doesnt help ddr though
As Phalanx already informed us
http://www.asus.com.tw/support/downl...06.zip~zaqwedc
BIOS 1006
Dated 22-05-2003
List of Fixes:
1. Do not use Aflash.exe / EZflash /Afudos.exe to update BIOSV1006
2. Extract all the files into the floppy disk,and simply run P4P1006.exe under DOS mode,the BIOS update will execute automatically.Please refer to the readme file included in the zipped file for the details of BIOS update procedure.
3. Improve overclocking capability when FSB is greater than 300MHz.
4. Fix the system cant boot from bus powered USB ZIP-250 drive sometimes.
5. Improve overclocking margin for FSB set between 166 and 199MHz.
6. Correct FSB frequencies of a few Willamette CPUs.
7. Fix EZFlash failure if ATI 9700 Pro or 3DLabs Wildcat II 5110 are used.
8. Fix the system fails to boot from floppy drive A: after the first boot failure if an IDE CDROM drive is attached.
9. Support CPU VCORE adjustment up to 1.95V.
10. Update the boot ROM of onboard LAN controller.
11. Fix failure to initialize VGA after BIOS upgrade or the system is put in Mechanical Off state for 1 minute.
12. Support new CPU.
13. Improve Instant Music compatibility with different optical drives and keyboards.
14. Change onboard VIA RAID boot ROM to 6410v112.rom.
15. Fix "CPU Fan Failure" alarm if Intel boxed CPU fan is used.
The PROBLEM is all the links are broken at Asus, files are corrupted, and ftp is semi-corrupted. These are the same mods Asus put out for the P4C800 after working with "the MAD' on that BIOS.
If anyone HAS this BIOS please post it here or abxzone (asusboards). A lot of ppl are trying to set up this board and would love to get their hands on this new release BIOS.
That's true. Still, with Vcore to 1.95 (2.0V with over), it's one less thing to mod.Quote:
Originally posted by Ewok
doesnt help ddr though
Phalanx28
now if they would just give us 3.2vdimm
I ordered the P4P800 this am
should be here next week.
Hopefully I will get a damm P4 that will oc worth a damm too
Hmm, is it possible to achieve just by bios update ? If the mobo and circuits doesn't give more then only modding is your optionQuote:
Originally posted by Ewok
doesnt help ddr though
I suppose it depend on the memory voltage chip. Perhaps someone can find out what chip ASUS is using.Quote:
Originally posted by Frankie
Hmm, is it possible to achieve just by bios update ? If the mobo and circuits doesn't give more then only modding is your option
Phalanx28
I need that bios for the v-core, I'm stuck at 372x15, I think I'll be able to overclock the chip higher then the MSI. I'll need it, sofar the 3D scores are about the same pound for pound and at 272 they're lower then at 274 MSI.
OPP
good to know that the board doesn't tank with higher fsb oc's
plus it seems potential oc's are about the same, maybe even a bit better once vcore is fixed. Hopefully the board won't get neutered with future bios updates though. I ordered one today, it's my first Asus since the KT133 board. haven't been impressed with any of their boards from then till now. Hopefully mine won't be a dud.
This mobo has a problem with the reset and Prometeia if anybody wants to know:D
OPP