Love the Fuzion block!

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Originally Posted by virtualrain

Newegg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835999351

NCIX:

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...e=THERMALRIGHT

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Lucky me I found that Thermalright LG775-RM kit sitting brand new in my computer supply closet. The plate is made out of steel. I will have to make bigger holes for the Fuzion screw studs. Do you guys now what size drill bit I need to make it fit the Fuzion screw studs? I have a friend with a drill press and he will do it but I dont know the right screw hole size to drill it out. I can have this mod done by tommorrow with pics if you guys tell me the drill bit size to use.

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Originally Posted by Hassan

those are idle temps though load is what matters, what are your load temps...

I also have the Dtek Fuzion on my Kent and after TIM cure temps are much better than my storm, I am also idling very low

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What were your temps like on the Storm?

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Originally Posted by redcorn

Lucky me I found that Thermalright LG775-RM kit sitting brand new in my computer supply closet. The plate is made out of steel. I will have to make bigger holes for the Fuzion screw studs. Do you guys now what size drill bit I need to make it fit the Fuzion screw studs? I have a friend with a drill press and he will do it but I dont know the right screw hole size to drill it out. I can have this mod done by tommorrow with pics if you guys tell me the drill bit size to use.

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I'm not sure. Can't you just guess? How did you determine they need to be bigger?

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Originally Posted by redcorn

Hassan what is your ambient temperature mine is 78F at all times.

If I open my windows and let the room get to 72-75 degrees I will idle at 38C-43C and under load will never past 52C. At room temperature of 78F TAT will hit 72-75C where it used to hit +80C. Under normal load my system hits max 59-60C after three hours of COD2 online. My ACS5 has not cure yet its only been on there for 15 hours.

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I'm curious... those pics you showed above are at idle it seems, nothing is running, tat appears to be in monitor mode, and games don't utilize multiple cores, I'm just trying to baseline your load temps, like this is after 5mins of prime 95 ver 25.1

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Originally Posted by virtualrain

What were your temps like on the Storm?

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Within 1 or 2 degrees higher at idle, and 4-6 degrees higher on load, that was with many different mounts on the storm and the dtek mounted 36 hours ago for the first time. All else remained, y line, ddc+ w/ petra's top, mcr320 w/ delta 1212M @ 7V, 7/16" tubing and distilled with Pentosin. AS5 applied the same way also. And the cpu was lapped under the storm and the Fuzion. I still love my storm, now it'll finds its way above an e6600 :)

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Originally Posted by virtualrain

I'm not sure. Can't you just guess? How did you determine they need to be bigger?

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The screws that came with that kit are half the size in diameter as the screw studs on the Fuzion block. Never mind though I have a solution, the fuzion block came with two mounting plates, Ill use the AMD mounting plate holes as a template for the drill bit size I need. Ill do it tonight and drain my system for this install tomorrow and let you guys know.

Hassan the pic I took was after I installed the cpu I ran those tests to let the system settle in then idle temps were posted.

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Originally Posted by Hassan

Within 1 or 2 degrees higher at idle, and 4-6 degrees higher on load, that was with many different mounts on the storm and the dtek mounted 36 hours ago for the first time. All else remained, y line, ddc+ w/ petra's top, mcr320 w/ delta 1212M @ 7V, 7/16" tubing and distilled with Pentosin. AS5 applied the same way also. And the cpu was lapped under the storm and the Fuzion. I still love my storm, now it'll finds its way above an e6600 :)

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Hassan what is your ambient room temp that tells alot about your temps also when you installed the Fuzion did you notice the motherboard bowed like in my picture?

Yes my P5B bowed like crazy, I had to loosen the nuts, I do not understand why they placed the tension limiters in the springs, I could not even get close as my board was heavily bowed, so I loosened the nuts to a little bowing, just past the point the block would not twist side to side. They have very stiff springs.

I'm in the low 70's ambient, as a matter of fact, I kept my window cracked open when I had the storm, and I don't need to with the Dtek, also no more random reboots... It is very obvious to me that the storm is not a good block for cooling my kentsfield, but is second to none for my conroes.

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Originally Posted by Hassan

Hmmm... maybe the backplate off a Thermaltake BT would work...

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That's a great idea, but if I remember correctly, at least for my storm, the screws weren't long enough when I had the backplate on. Its simple to get new ones, probably worth it too.

If anyone could confirm this that would be great.

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Originally Posted by Vice

That's a great idea, but if I remember correctly, at least for my storm, the screws weren't long enough when I had the backplate on. Its simple to get new ones, probably worth it too.

If anyone could confirm this that would be great.

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for swiftech stuff, it won't work unless the backplate is threaded itself to replace to nuts, but for Dtek there's plenty of room on their mounting hardware.

Hang in there guys I have the thermalright backing plate and I drilled the holes to match the studs from the fuzion. It should work. The thermalright plate is solid steel. I just got to check the resister around the cpu area underneath the board to see if they will be smashed by this back plate but it looks good so far. Ill post pics and results tommorrow. If my theory is right I think I will get not only a safer install using the thermalright plate but also better contact with the convex shaped block so better temps will follow. By the way the proper drill bit size is 9/64 inch.

yahoo! backplate mod is a success

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post1972879

Hey guys, note about TAT.

There is word going around that on a quadcore it only loads two cores.

Check task manager while running it.

yes it does only load 2 cores, that's why prime 25.1 or 4 instances of sp2004 is still best for kents

Great thread and information up to this point! Thanks all that are participating. Getting more information to make a decision on staying with my Storm Rev.2 on this FX-55 or going with one of these Fusion blocks. Very happy with the Storm at the moment, but always looking to run cooler under load.

Back plate is a success and allows more tension on the screws and no bowing of the motherboard.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...79#post1972379

I had the backplate already from when I purchased the Thermalright Ultra 120. The backplate that came with the U 120 has threaded nuts mounted in the backplate already. I just purchased some matching bolts and threaded them through from the bottom of the backplate and then bolted it to my Striker, works perfect.

If using this backplate setup with a block (which is a MUST!!) I can't understand why you would bother with the stupid tension springs, they're just crap. A hard mount is the only way to go without doubt. Only takes one or two turns of the wingnut once you have made contact with the blocks mounting plate and your done.

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Originally Posted by virtualrain

I think this Thermalright backing plate would work nicely with any block (the piece on the left)... $5 USD...

http://www.thermalright.com/a_images/lga775/1s.jpg

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It's rediculous that a $2-3 part like this is not included with a water block when your $300-400 motherboard is at stake. Even the guys at the Swiftech challenge broke a board during mounting... if they can do it, anyone can. (And they should know better!).

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That's what I use :toast: :clap:

I wish the guys that knew about this mod would have posted before I installed my waterblock its a major pain to pulll the motherboard out twice I have to drain all the water out.

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Originally Posted by Quazi

Great thread and information up to this point! Thanks all that are participating. Getting more information to make a decision on staying with my Storm Rev.2 on this FX-55 or going with one of these Fusion blocks. Very happy with the Storm at the moment, but always looking to run cooler under load.

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with a single die processor I would still use an impingement style block, with the next series of single die quad cores whenever they come, my Storm will come off the shelf and replace the Fuzion

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Originally Posted by redcorn

I wish the guys that knew about this mod would have posted before I installed my waterblock its a major pain to pulll the motherboard out twice I have to drain all the water out.

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Yea. If quick connects didn't impede flow rates so much, I'd place them coming off my reservoir and coming off my rad. This way one wouldn't loose hardly any water and it wouldn't be such a pita to remove the mobo when needed.

I figured out how to mount water blocks on quad core better.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...48#post1973448

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Any definitive results as to which block is more restrictive, between the Fuzion and Apogee GT?

The FuZion is by far less restrictive. Gabe (Swiftech Prez) himself said to Danny (D-tek Owner) at the Swiftech challenge that he couldn't believe how the FuZion flows.

Alrighty, thank you :)

Ok here are the new temps with the fuzion block mounted correctly, back plate install and lapping the cpu. Ambient temp is 25C. Water pump is 50% and fans are set on 5/10. Notice how the temps are so even. If you want me to open my windows and post those screen shots I can, the ambient temp will be at 23C you will see my system idle at 37c and load at 48C

IDLE and LOAD PICS

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/7835/idle77fym1.png

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8...munbersyy1.jpg