Great work, as allways, eva! :clap:
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Great work, as allways, eva! :clap:
Fantastic report! Nothing earth-shattering but the level of detail will pay benefits to a lot of members just setting up 680i. Looking forward to the SLI report updates.
Thanks guys... 680i striker sure has enough potential with the right tweaks but if you're only judging it on Super Pi results then when properly tweaked it may only be slightly slower than intel chipsets. Remember, I've only had the board for 4 days now. As with any board with this many bios options like DFI NF3/NF4 days, it can take weeks to figure everything out :) Anyway, 8800GTX/GTS SLI is the king for 3d now and 680i is the only board for that :)
Thanks GAR, I just updated again using USB flash drive in Asus bios' EZ Flash from 0402 to 0505 official bios and it has fixed my heavy vcore undervolting from bios set value issue!Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
1.3875v vcore on:
0302 official bios = 1.28v bios and 1.26v under load in windows
0402 beta bios = 1.28v bios and 1.26v under load in windows
0505 official bios = 1.36 bios and 1.34v under load in windows
Lastest Official Bios:
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...iker%20Extreme
0505 bios
http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/...eme/SE0505.zip
will see how memory clocking goes :)Quote:
Striker Extreme release BIOS version 0505
1. Support Max LDT Frequency from 5X to 8X
2. Fine tune CPU Temperature detection code
3. Fixed some default value can't save when using BIOS Profile function.
4. Enable adjustments for tRD and TrFC item
5. Enhance DDR667 memory compatibility
6. Enhance performance for Corsair CM2X1024-9136C5D
7. Fixed CPU Voltage max option drops to 1.60V when set Multi-Language option to 'Tri Chinese' , 'Sim Chinese' or 'Japanese'.
Anyone care to explain/list what the old 0505 beta bios issues were that forced some folks back to 0402 bios ? I'd like to look out for those issues on this 0505 official bios (since folks saying it's the same).
Not too bad on SuperPi:
11s it can go faster but like you im still tweaking...also no cascade so am limited by temps :(
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=149488
How long are you running memtest86+ before booting into windows?Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
1 pass of memtest is usually enough.....if it fails after that, its more likely a heat issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by msgclb
Not great but the reason im posting is to show that the 450 hole doesn't seem to hold...
unless its a tad above 450...
http://aycu32.webshots.com/image/631...4713013_rs.jpg
[QUOTE=eva2000]Now to use memset to tighten the advance timings to 4-15-6-8 with tRFC = 35 and look at this nearly 102 seconds faster than stock 2T @423mhz 4-4-4-12 at AUTO advance timings! But still slower than 975x chipset at same clocks by around 25-40 seconds. If you take into account ~20s slower with 2x512MB modules, means the Striker was around 5-20 seconds slower than 975x in Super Pi 32M at those particular timings below.
1T memset tweaked
How did you get Memset to work on the 680i chipset? I tried MeMset30 and get an unsupported chipset error :(
memset v3.1 beta http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=334
Thanks Eva works like a charm:
Again I should be breaking into 10s at these timings so I agree this mobo is a little weak on the SuperPi calcs :(
[IMG]http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/...m_5e143be1.png[/IMG]
Thanks for the great review Eva. I really would like a 680i board so i can use my NV cards in SLI. I keep hearing about the hard drive corruption. Have you run into this problem yet Eva? Im waiting to see the DFI pop up and decide which of the two to get.. I was really hoping for 8 Internal Sata's on this board.
there is no sata problem with the non reference boards, so the only companies that do not have the issue is asus, and dfi.
Very very nice eva2000...Thanks a lot for it, as Im in the market for a new board...This helps me out a lot :toast:
Haltech no such drive corruption here :)
Thanks makatee...
next up....
Advance Memory Timings - What does AUTO option assign ?
More memory tests... This time to investigate what the bios sets the advance memory timings to when set to AUTO for each memory clock frequency. Again ALWAYS use memtest86+ v1.65 to test settings before booting windows.
Quick Memtest86+ v1.65 Procedure
I use a quick test first consisting of:
- 2 full memtest86+ v1.65 loops of test #1 to #8
- Then continuous test #5 loops for at least 10 loops.
- If there's errors in test #1-4 then try raising voltages i.e. NB, CPU VTT or 1.2v HT volts
- If test #5 errors try raising vdimm as well as NB, CPU VTT or 1.2v HT volts.
- Settings and clocks must also be able to reboot properly on exiting bios and memtest testing. Since unstable clocks or lack of NB and/or vDimm volts can result in problems rebooting on bios/memtest testing exit.
That isn't to say it's stable but at least stable enough to be able to boot into windows without BSOD'ing :)
System:
- Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 QPGE B1 Step 5
- Scythe Infinity heatsink with mounting mod + Thermaltake 120x25mm 81cfm fan
- 128MB FX5200 PCI / 256MB BFG 7800GTX / Gainward 8800GTS/SLI
- Asus 680i Striker Extreme rev1.0 0701 beta bios
- 1x 160GB Seagate 7200.7 SATA NCQ on SATA2 port
- Pioneer DVR-05 DVD Burner
- 600W OCZ EvoStream Modular Power supply
9x266FSB 4-4-4-12 2T fixed
I'll be only changing the unlinked mode divider keeping FSB fixed at 266FSB and timings fixed at 4-4-4-12 2T for initial tests. These screenshots below are just to find out what AUTO responds to for advance timings in memset v3.1 beta in windows.
Quote:
Asus PC Probe2 reported PSU rail voltages:
Asus PC Probe2 reported voltages vs Digitech QM1538 Digital Multimeter measurements while under load @2400mhz at 1.3875v bios set (1.28v vcore idle / 1.26v vcore load).
+3.3v rail = 3.26v vs 3.387v real
+5v rail = 4.78-4.89v vs 5.02v real
+12v rail = 11.78v vs 12.23v real
Bios template for 680i Striker users to report their settings:
AI Tuning: Manual
Nvidia GPU Ex: Disabled
LinkBoost: Disabled
FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Raio: N/A
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1066 (means 266FSB)
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1066.7
MEM (DDR), Mhz:
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz:
Vcore Voltage: 1.325
Memory Voltage: 2.1 to 2.5v
1.2v HT Voltage: 1.4
NB Core Voltage: 1.4 to 1.6v
SB Core Voltage: 1.5
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.4
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: AUTO
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: AUTO
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: AUTO
tCL (CAS Latency): 4
tRCD: 4
tRP: 4
tRAS: 12
Command Per Clock (CMD): 2 clock (2T)
Advance Memory Settings
tRRD: AUTO
tRC: AUTO
tWR: AUTO
tWTR: AUTO
tREF: AUTO
Async Latency: AUTO
4:5 - 333Mhz
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680..._memset_tn.png
2:3 - 400Mhz
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680..._memset_tn.png
8:15 - 500Mhz
Raised vdimm to 2.25v and NB to 1.5v
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680..._memset_tn.png
1:2 - 533Mhz
Raised vdimm to 2.4v and NB to 1.6v
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680..._memset_tn.png
9x266FSB 5-4-4-12 2T fixed
Changed only to CAS = 5. Findings:
- CAS5 automatically loosens TWTR from 9 to 10 it seems when TWTR is set to AUTO.
1:2 - 533Mhz
Raised vdimm to 2.4v and NB to 1.6v
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680..._memset_tn.png
7:15 - 571Mhz
Raised vdimm to 2.45v and NB to 1.6v
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680..._memset_tn.png
6:13 - 577Mhz
Raised vdimm to 2.45v and NB to 1.65v
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680..._memset_tn.png
5:11- 586Mhz
Raised vdimm to 2.55v and NB to 1.65v
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680..._memset_tn.png
4:9- 600Mhz
Raised vdimm to 2.575v and NB to 1.65v
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680..._memset_tn.png
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680..._validated.png
Raising NB from 1.65v to 1.7v allowed me to pass single 32M run @600Mhz 5-4-4-12 at 2T at 2.575v vdimm. Memset seems to have not reported the right tRC value compared to what CPUZ is reporting tRC = 33.
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680...5s859ms_tn.png
Congratulations! I ran over to this thread right after I saw your post in the 600mhz memory thread. And in the 32M SPi group as well. :toast:
thanks... now to figure out 1T clocks then I'm ready for cpu and 8800GTS SLI clocking :D
Nice work!!!!
looking forward to your gts sli results eva ,nice detailed work .anyone know when shops in europe get them in stock? ive preordered ,and been waiting over 3weeks now :(
Nice work Eva.:cool:
thanks guys..
The REAL reason for choosing an Asus 680i Striker Extreme SLI motherboard is of course for SLI :D
2x 640MB Gainward 8800GTS SLI twins with 97.44 drivers
http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/vid...00GTS_head.jpg
http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/vid...800GTS_002.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/vid...800GTS_005.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/vid...800GTS_008.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/vid...800GTS_009.jpg
http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/vid...800GTS_011.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/vid...800GTS_013.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/vid...800GTS_015.jpg http://i4memory.com/reviewimages/vid...800GTS_020.jpg
System:
- Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 QPGE B1 Step 5
- Scythe Infinity heatsink with mounting mod + Thermaltake 120x25mm 81cfm fan
- 2x 640MB Gainward 8800GTS SLI
- Asus 680i Striker Extreme rev1.0 0402 bios
- 1x 160GB Seagate 7200.7 SATA NCQ on SATA2 port
- Pioneer DVR-05 DVD Burner
- 600W OCZ EvoStream Modular Power supply
3dmark06 stock @513/1584
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680...4_10906_tn.png
3dmark06 oc'd @648/2052
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/680...2_11253_tn.png
Yup cpu limited for 3dmark06 with E6600@2400Mhz stock :)
more to come :)
Looking nice!
Very useful, complete, and well done eva2000 :toast:. I would love to see the timings comparison again using all the 3dmarks...especially 01' an 06'.
wow, nice review :toast:
(took me ~50mins to get through :D)
Wow Eva! So your 600 Watter holds up with the Dual GTS huh? Very Impressive!
Cant wait to see the numbers with the 6600 OC'd!