No better on my front with the BFG BIOS.
I'm going to try the P19 (if someone sends it to me), and that's about all I have left before it gets switched out with another one.
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No better on my front with the BFG BIOS.
I'm going to try the P19 (if someone sends it to me), and that's about all I have left before it gets switched out with another one.
I really wish we knew what Error 11 on the LED panel meant...
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Just spent several hours switching between E6400, E6600, E6600ES, X6800, and X6800ES. NO - I mean NO - luck anywhere.
Oh well...
Exact same board, run with same bios will produce same benches...Nvidia makes all the boards just like they make all the G80 cards, everyone just rebrands the box to suit.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
The simple fact here is the bios is buggy, we will see new builds soon
Yes, I'm aware of that, it really makes me look foward to the ECS version since it should be alot cheaper. My comparison is mostly to see if the same settings & hardware yeild the same results. Just hoping one will have a higher FSB wall than the other. This would prove that the current rebadged 680i boards are luck of the draw kinda like the cpu's are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
I just can not believe how disappointing the 680i is, I never had BSOD'S like I do now, I don't know how nvidia will be able to pull this together with bios updates. DFI maybe the last breath for the 680i.
Hell nvidia if you cant give us OC at least give us stable:rolleyes: With such an outstanding 8800 series card how can they go so wrong on their MB:confused:
using the exact same settings & hardware the bfg board has reached a fsb of 472/1890 vs the evga's 465/1860. Nothing would get the evga to go any higher, but an icrease in voltages on the chipsets yeilded 475/1900FSB max on the BFG. Also I've discovered that the crucial 25th Anniv. ram can't run 4-4-4-12 2.2v at these speeds with the additional timings set to auto. It seems the evga's auto is a little looser as Tony pointed out earlier I believe. I haven't flashed the BFG to the latest bios yet. Keyboard and mouse still wacky on this board too by the way.
There is a high learning curve with 680i. But the board is easy to use, once you figure out a few things. High FSB is not 680i's strongest selling point. People who want 500+ FSB should stick with 965 boards. But 680i is a monster when it becomes to memory overclocking. I have two sets of RAM that can both do DDR2-1300 Orthos-stable. Both sets will also run DDR2-930 @ 3-3-3 with no problems.
Theta here are my 4 hours orthos stable EVGA Bios settings using the P20 Bios. Same settings are priming on the BFG version right now. By raising some voltages I was able to get the BFG to 475FSB but that was its max.
[HTML]CPU Configuration
Limit CPUID MaxVal (Disabled)
Intel SpeedStep (Disabled)
CPU Thermal Control (Disabled)
C1E Enhanced Halt State (Disabled)
Execute Disable Bit (Disabled)
Virtualization Technology (Enabled)
System Clocks
CPU Multiplier (8 X)
PCIe x16_1, Mhz (Auto)
PCIe x16_3, Mhz (Auto)
PCIe x16_2, Mhz (Auto)
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz (Auto)
**HT Multiplier**
nForce SPP--> nForce MCP (5 x)
nForce SPP<-- nForce MCP (5 x)
**Spread Spectrum Setting**
CPU Spread Spectrum (Disabled)
HT Spread Spectrum (Disabled)
PCIe Spread Spectrum(SPP) (Disabled)
PCIe Spread Spectrum(MCP) (Disabled)
SATA Spread Spectrum (Downstream)
FSB & Memory Config
FSB-Memory Clock Mode (linked)
FSB-Memory Ratio (Sync)
FSB (QDR), MHz (1860)
MEM(DDR), MHZ (930)
Memory Timming Setting
Memory Timming Setting (Expert)
tCL (CAS Latency) (4)
tRCD (4)
tRP (4)
tRAS (12)
Command Per Clock(CMD) (2T)
**Advanced Memory Settings** (everything here to auto for starters)
tRRD (Auto)
tRC (Auto)
tWR (Auto)
tWTR (Auto)
tREF (Auto)
System Voltages
CPU Core (1.50)will vary depending on your hardware
CPU FSB (1.50)
Memory (2.20)will vary depending on your hardware
nForce SPP (Auto)
nForce MCP (Auto)
HT nForce SPP<->MCP (Auto)[/HTML]
Trying them now... E6600 and 1 E6400 have no results.
Still have plenty more chips to test.
MAYBE this is a CPU interaction - certain chips causing walls?
My L629B E6400 walls at 1680, E6600 walls at 1760. So... Hmm...
UPDATE - PROBLEMS ARE CPU RELATED!!
I've spent days testing now, and with 14 Core 2 CPUs. Out of all of that, there is NO rhyme or reason why the board will hit a wall OTHER than the CPU that is in the board.
My best results are tied between a week 25A E6400 (1986FSB) and a week 29 E6600 (1965FSB).
Big change from before, but certain CPUs walled at 1740, some 1650, some 1800.
This seems to be certainly dependant on the CPU, after my observations.
Something to go on guys! I know you all don't have a ton of Core 2s laying around, but play around with my suggestion if you're having problems.
Certainly helped me!
If you read the Anandtech review of the 680i, one X6800 they tested did 525FSB, while the other did far less on the same board.
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...px?i=2869&p=13
It should be noted that both CPU's hit 4GHz. So even though you may have a chip that doesn't do really high FSB, if the CPU has some of the higher multipliers, you may still get a decent overclock.
Indeed - 6600 - 6800 will get good overclocks out of the box - no problems for ANYONE at 1600FSB.
The guys stuck with E6300 and E6400 can be in for some trouble, as I've been finding out.
By the way - you were completely right on!
This board is a MONSTER memory overclocker. I'm at DDR2-1200 on TeamGroup 667 / timings at 5-5-5-12-2T @ 2.3v.
Not too shabby at all. :)
I got to 470 fsb with 4 gigs of mushkin redlines at 3-3-3-9. I only bumped the voltages on the fsb and the cpu. overnight othos run was stable. it is BFG board but I flashed to the evga P20 bios(now thats cool!) I hope Tony or someone makes a killer bios in the future. I had all 4 gigs running at 1200 unlinked and have had my CPU at 4037 for a superPi run. This board's bios is alot different then my abit AWD9-Max and will take some getiing used to.
hey guys
im still confused about the whole fsb here
so on these boards/intell it is calculated buy total fsb not like my opteron and expert mb where i had to raise the htt and lower the multi
with this board we do not have to lower the total fsb multi
and if i rum my ram 1 to 1 with a fsb of 1600 the ram would have to be at 1600 also??
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I've been saying this as well for a while now. Very true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Theta
Your memory would be running at 400MHz or DDR2-800. The bios would give the DDR2 figure.Quote:
Originally Posted by billdavis
1600, by the way, is the "rated FSB". The system clock is the actual speed of the FSB. Intel uses an enhancement known as "Quad Pumping". It's also called QDR. In a nutshell, Pentium 4 and C2D processors can handle four signals per cycle. So 400Mhz system clock = 1600MHz rated FSB, or 400 quad-pumped.
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Originally Posted by billdavis
just divide the FSB by 4 for the FSB liek you see on other boards.
and then multiply that by 2 for what the ram would run at 1:1
so 1600/4 = 400 fsb
400x2 = 800mhz DRam
Does anyone know where the voltage read points for the vcore and ddr2 are on the motherboard
Thanks for the info on the fsb/mem speed
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:eek: :eek: :eek: How the hell'd you get all that hardware???Quote:
Originally Posted by Theta
I bought one of these boards (evga), but with all the bs, I haven't played with it much.
Today I dumped an x6800 in it along with a water cooled evga 8800 gtx. i also have the north and south bridges watercooled with mcw30's
Anyhow, I started with Corsair dominator 8500 sticks (2G total)
Board fired up to 1885 fsb, no problem, but even at default non-oc'd settings, it would crash randomly in 3dm06.
It did not like the memory, which ran in all my computers flawlessly, including a p5b vanilla at 563 fsb and currently in a p5b deluxe at 500 fsb x 9.
After messing with everything, I dumped a single stick of GSkill pc2-5400 cl3--4-3-8 and tada...:)
I ran at stock fsb, with multiplier up to 15 = 4Ghz, no problem.
I ran this gtx in my p5b and got 13977 in 3dm06. with this setup, I got 13377 so far.
some of it is due to a 4Ghz cpu speed, while my E6600 was set at 4.4 Ghz at the time. Interestingly, I could jack the PCI-E 1 bus up to 150!!!
Anyhow, just thought I would share that...it may help someonne
The moral of the story being.."not only don't it like some cpu's, but it just don't like some memory...as stated elsewhere."
Also, with the Gskill, it chose 1T and some descent timings, when in auto mode. With the Corsairs, it read the spd and set it there, but nothing ran.
lata...looking forward to some REAL bios fixes, or in the trash it goes.
Edit: with the Corsairs, all the bells and whistles turned on or off made no difference AT ALL.
with the GSkill single stick, it didn't care about spead spectrum yada yada yada or anything else. ran out of time today, so will pick up again tomorrow....and see if it can kick up a bit
Maybe it has a problem with dual channel? Gotta go...time to vapochill my gtx (on a board that works)
are there any talks about a p21..p22 etc...bios?
i like this board alot better than my asus ws pro...but i think my wall is cpu related...my X6800 seems to top out at or around 3.8
and even though i can pass all 3d marks, i fail dual orthos in about 17min, but instead of getting an error..i get reboot.
my rig idles at 50c and during dual orthos i am hitting 85c, and i get real wacky temp reading with TAT (-40) then >85
perhaps i need to reseat my heatsink?
i seem to be "stuck" at 1600
cpu@3600 with 1.4v
fsb with 1.4v (1.5v reboots)
EBT and VT enabled
4gigs ram @920 4-4-4-18 2.4v
any idea where the voltage measure points are on this mobo
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