then how come my 3400+ sempron is grouped with the s754s, as a palermo with 2ghz stock speed ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by massman
and imo, this new layout is a good way to push the little sites out of sight. not conductive to proper conpetition if you ask me
If you run into troubles finding the correct cpu, please give our forums a visit and let us know.Quote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
I don't agree, a small group of OC'ers can get 1st spot in the ranking and climb very high; what we need now is a member to HWBOINT ratio for a third rankingQuote:
Originally Posted by ozzimark
hey RIchbastard! HWBOINTS/MEMBERS = Average OC-bility of Team
can you throw together a page with such a ranking, that would be swell :)
Nah, that would discourage teams from accepting new, non extreme, overclockers.
Imho being a big team is a great achievement on itself. We shouldn't punish them for having a lot of members, which the hwboints / members score would certainly do. Small teams can still get a high rank in a benchmark specific ranking (which is top 10 avg).
I could add the hwboints / member ratio to the ranking, but purely informational.
Yeah, our big boy from Finland :pimp: ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by massman
i just did let you know. no need to register again to tell you the same thing :fact: (edit: just realized that probably comes off negatively.. didn't mean it to! :p: )Quote:
Originally Posted by massman
WeStSiDePLaYa is sorta right though. while there are AM2 results, you're missing a lot of the chips at the moment.. kinda surprising considering the platform has been around for almost 6 months now ;)
i though of that last night, but with how the scores are set up now, it skews really heavily against the big teams. what needs to be done is just less emphasis on the global points. while making it so that members with lower scores can contribute is fine and dandy, i see it as a lowering of standards. a dilution of the "extremeness" of it if you will. after all, i shouldn't be able to help out my team by submitting all the random scores i have laying around on my computer from a year or more ago :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by jmke
Phase at OCX suggested a very interesting alternative. The member ranking based on hwboints seems to work very well, the team ranking however does indeed favour huge teams a tad too hard.
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Originally Posted by Phase
The suggestion for the team points by Phase above is pretty much the same as my original plan. Only that all the teams getting a score in a ranking should get some points, not just the top10. The decision to go with the kind of team hof we have now wasn´t exactly unanimous. ;)
The big team bias could also be diminished by summing only the top n overall personal scores for the team (instead of all like now), with n e.g. 20.
Great stuff.
I hope to see some nice team fights.
It would be nice to have a program that is able to extract benchmark scores out of the avaible tools. I remember guys who developed something familiar for Need For Speed Underground 2. You had to put on the extract software, then run your game, set your new track record, alt-tab back to the extract sofware and submit it online. They even build in anti-cheat! You could add a possibility to safe your record to a .hwb file or something like that for people who might not have a internet connection at that time :)
I know it's allready on the to do list, but I think this way might be the best (most liked by tweakers) way to do it, allthough it aint going to be that simple to do :p:
We would need support from SiSoft, FutureMark, Aquamark holders and XS to do it decent enough. Without a anti-cheat build in, such a program is worthless imo
I wouldn't count on that one. FutureMark for example will not share their knowledge with any possible competitors (that's what I think). Aquamark should be possible. When you download Aquamark you will find a readme in the instal directory wich explains a few points. Bundle forces with the CPU-Z programmer would be cool, and off course having your own MultiPi benchmark program.
1. Futuremark:
Exactly. They won't be very happy if we made a program to submit their results to our database. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by wittekakker
2. Aquamark:
Believe it or not, we have already discussed a way to attach the AQ3 program to our database in order to let benchmarkers submit their results fast and simple to hwbot. We didn't find any (decent) way to do that. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by wittekakker
I still have no idea of how we can build in the anticheat protection, athough there is a hidden checksum in the file you get after the bench ends:Quote:
Originally Posted by AM3 Readme
3. MultiPi / Cpu-z:Quote:
Originally Posted by AM3 file
MultiPi is not our n°1 thing to do. A Cpu-z screenshot should be easy to attach to our database, but I don't think Frank really wants that. He has his own database ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by wittekakker
4. SiSoft:
It seems that they have included a way to upload scores to an online database in their program, so maybe ... :)
Hwbot mods mark my scores as being legal. But what if I change them after you guys have mark it? I don't see it reapear on the main page as a new score being posted... so do you guys get a notify that I changed my score?
It doesn't get the 'unchecked' status either.
So basicly, if users change their benchmark score it would be cool to put them back unchecked.
A very good point. :) Added to the todo list.Quote:
Originally Posted by wittekakker
we don't necessarily check all scores as they are submitted, rather the top 20-30 in each ranking to see if nobody is trying to cheat their way to the top.
We should be able to differentiate between accidental errors and scores entered wrongly on purpose; for the last ones we should be able to sanction or "tag" the offending user to help prevent any future problems.
How do you register @ hwbot. Link please. Never mind I got registered. I will ask wife if I can register her scores when she gets home.
So I still don't understand the scoring. Does XS get points for me . with a P4c 3.2@3.4 in 3Dmark 05 . My browser pc scores in the number 1 position and in pcmark 04 I am second. Now does this give points to XS or hows it work.
Your score will add about 2 points to the XS totals
EDIT: It's more like 6 points :)
I've found a 7800GTX score today wich seem to be fake. The thing is that I cannot report it because one of hwbot mods has put it as valid. How can I report that it is fake? :D
Onto the fake result: it has a Futuremark ORB link, but the 3D Mark 05 GT3 score is just way off compared to other 7800GTX. It even beets a 650MHz 7950GT with him only having +500MHz on the core. Where he got 12k, he should get only 10k considering his system specs. I also tried to contact Futuremark about this, I hope they delete the score, but I don't know if they will hear my, they don't have a "report" button on their site so I just picked one of their available e-mail adresses :D
Here it is: http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=550240
that entry doesn't seem to be fake, or am I wrong?
check my new sexy signature image, it's available to all HWbot.org users, click the "bench profile" link after you've logged in.
here's yours:
http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?t...34&iehack=.png
Damm, you passed me, need to check my HD, maybe there is more :p
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About that entry. Look at his score on Futuremark ORB:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2150955
He has Atlon X2 @ 2,65GHz and 7800GTX @ 560MHz.
My setup: Allendale @ +3,3GHz and 7950GT @ 650MHz.
I should 'own' him on one leg :)
Main Test Results
3DMark Score
(3DMarks)
12135 <-> 12756
Detailed Test Results
Game Tests
GT1 - Return To Proxycon
(fps) 54.5 <-> 46.1
GT2 - Firefly Forest
(fps) 36.9 <-> 37.0
GT3 - Canyon Flight
(fps) 56.9 <-> 77.9
The big differance on GT3 tels us he has bigger gpu performance then me.
Now look at this hwbot entry:
http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=506615
Although it's in the single card competition, he descibes his setup to have two 7800GTX's. Now look to the results above, we see a patron :)
I didn't saw it before, but it's more clear now. It's an SLI score, not single card.
You're absolutely right Geoffrey, sorry for the mistake.
From now on, this score will be known as SLI :)
How do I correct problem with the hwbot?
I posted a 3dm03 score, which ended up being put in the siungle card area as opposed to the dual card area.
Now it has beeen removed altogether?
You can edit your submissions at the hwbot website:
http://www.hwbot.org/user.do?userId=6154&filter=false
I think your 03 score is still there and fixed now.
It is not listed except for in my proile with an n/a next to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mtzki
Ok, I edited it. I don't know why the bot picked it up ioncorrectly though?
Question...Will my signature update automatically, or do I have to go back and change the url once in a while?