Attention - FAKE LAING DDC PUMPS in circulation...

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11-23-2006, 04:08 PM
hot_fifty

sollte ja kommen. Sie sind so populär. :D
11-23-2006, 05:16 PM
STEvil

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoax

you cant be serious...

and sadly..I have seen a ton of those people with crappy red sports cars with a ferrari badge on it driving around sao paulo... there was this one I remember that had original ferrari wheels, and the badge in front and back on a red convertible FIAT....too bad it couldnt go as fast as a real one...maybe it could be mistaken for the real thing if he could manage to go by fast enough :rolleyes:

Technically FIAT is Ferrari.

FIAT also produced tractors. We have one. ;)
11-23-2006, 07:45 PM
Senater_Cache

I thought it was Lamborghini that used FIAT engines in the past?
11-24-2006, 01:30 AM
Radical_53

Lamborghini is Audi nowaydays. But also Lamborghini and Porsche did make tractors :D
11-24-2006, 09:29 PM
smopoim86

Way to hijack a thread
11-24-2006, 09:48 PM
jaguarking11

Anyone know what the price on the fake is. I dont care what it is as long as its priced accordingly.
11-25-2006, 01:48 PM
Mr Footlong

In my opinion there is nothing wrong with the price of the DDC's. I have had about 7 or 8 now and they are worth their weight in gold IMO. The Ultra's (or whatever you guys like to call them ;)) are just superb and I wouldn't contemplate getting a fake for a second. Not one has stuttered or failed to fire up ever, for me they just do the job and do it very, very well :).
11-25-2006, 06:38 PM
FLMJIGGY

Thanks for the heads up. Dont understand German but it is a lot easier to spot once seeing the pictures.

On a side note:

Hoax that Extreme logo looks TREMENDOUS!!! That is what the logo should be!!!
11-25-2006, 07:37 PM
Eastcoasthandle

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoax

you cant be serious...

and sadly..I have seen a ton of those people with crappy red sports cars with a ferrari badge on it driving around sao paulo... there was this one I remember that had original ferrari wheels, and the badge in front and back on a red convertible FIAT....too bad it couldnt go as fast as a real one...maybe it could be mistaken for the real thing if he could manage to go by fast enough :rolleyes:

You mean Fiero's made by Ponitac? LOL

Anyway, love your sig. You should give it to Fugger to make it the Forum's logo.
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e2...mp-5_00000.gif
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11-25-2006, 08:02 PM
nattoNrice

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Footlong

In my opinion there is nothing wrong with the price of the DDC's. I have had about 7 or 8 now and they are worth their weight in gold IMO. The Ultra's (or whatever you guys like to call them ;)) are just superb and I wouldn't contemplate getting a fake for a second. Not one has stuttered or failed to fire up ever, for me they just do the job and do it very, very well :).

i think apple even had that oppinion about the orig ddc. afaik they used 2 of em for the water cooled g5's
12-25-2007, 11:35 AM
joecop120

The impeller isnt even close to original...this clone is like a vertical eheim 1046.
12-25-2007, 11:43 AM
Martinm210

Interesting, obviously the MTBF would be much lower than the DDC. The DDC has a single small ceramic bearing the impeller rides on the works really well for long maintenance free service life.

The fake is a shaft/impeller setup.

http://www.cooling-masters.com/image.../fake_ddc5.jpg

I never understood fakes...for just a little more effort you could try to improve on a good design under your own name and be applauded for your efforts....sad:down:
12-25-2007, 11:48 AM
NaeKuh

watch pretty soon theres going to be fake ek blocks running around because of such scarcity they are in the US.

But seriously, just looking at the quality of both you can tell the fake is not worth it. That shaft looks like it cant take a lot of stress.

D5 also carry a MTBF 50,000 hours as well. Which is why liang is awesome.
12-25-2007, 12:18 PM
CyberDruid

Next there will be fake Thermochills... :shakes:

JK

Thanks for the heads up
12-25-2007, 01:07 PM
Nate P.

Will Petra's top work on the fake one?:D
12-25-2007, 01:56 PM
Waterlogged

Quote:

Originally Posted by joecop120

The impeller isnt even close to original...this clone is like a vertical eheim 1046.

Nice thread resurrection. :shakes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberDruid

Next there will be fake Thermochills... :shakes:

JK

Thanks for the heads up

There already are, they just haven't gone past China's border, at least, that's what I think I recall Marci saying.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nate P.

Will Petra's top work on the fake one?:D

I don't think so, it looks just a touch bigger. Even if it did, why would you want one?
12-25-2007, 02:38 PM
STEvil

Too bad they use Laing's name.. might be interesting to try them.
12-25-2007, 02:55 PM
Waterlogged

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEvil

Too bad they use Laing's name.. might be interesting to try them.

No it wouldn't. They're very sub par performance.

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Other differences ...

The performance of copies are also being left behind because they only 2.5 mH2O and 330 L / h maximum, where the real DDC displays mH2O and 3.9 ~ 380 L / h in the version 1 and 6.1 mH2O and ~ 500 L / h in the version 1 +. The performance of copies are also being left behind because they only 2.5 mH2O and 330 L / h maximum, where the real DDC displays mH2O and 3.9 ~ 380 L / h in the version 1 and 6.1 mH2O and ~ 500 L / h in the version 1 +. Copies are also powered by a small 3 pins (not tachometry), and not by a Molex as on the original.
12-25-2007, 03:45 PM
STEvil

However they may scale with voltage well.
12-25-2007, 04:07 PM
Nate P.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waterlogged

I don't think so, it looks just a touch bigger. Even if it did, why would you want one?

I'm not gonna use one, just curious.
12-25-2007, 07:22 PM
The_Beast

If I buy a laing I want a laing not some knock-off
12-25-2007, 07:38 PM
Waterlogged

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEvil

However they may scale with voltage well.

Do you mean as in 12+ volts using a Meanwell?...if so, just use an Iwaki. Known reliability/performance there.

I'm sorry, I just don't see any reasonable reason to waste any money on these fakes. You add more power so they perform better, they dump more heat into the water= lose/lose situation. Suspect construction from the very look of them=losing situation.

With the 3.1/3.2 versions out now, there's no reason to look elsewhere for a small, powerful, reliable pump.
12-25-2007, 08:31 PM
STEvil

Why limit yourself to a meanwell?

The reasoning would be the possibility of having Iwaki-like performance at cheaper cost. Construction looks quite similar to a few other pumps i've seen, same impeller style anyways. I dont see why they should be more failure prone just because of a slightly different design (they still use magnetic drive).

Now if you opened it up to see the drive stators and such you might be able to make the argument, but not on just seeing the impeller.
12-25-2007, 09:31 PM
AussieJester

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Originally Posted by Marci

Nah - same as usual - you're paying the price premium for an item that has a 50,000 MTBF... no other DC pump employed in PC Watercooling carries that kind of MTBF / Warranty... only Laing's...

(ie: 50,000 hours continuous use mean-time-between-failures - your pump is good for 50,000 hrs of use, which equals 5.7 years, in it's stock form. If it dies within that MTBF, you can fire it back to Laing for repair / replace. You're paying for the warranty...)

Like to hear from someone successfully claim on it.

Hydor pumps also have a 50k MTBF FYI

I would buy the "fake" in a heart beat if it outperformed the original also I couldnt give a flying toss about brand names when a company starts paying me to advertise i use their product then maybe i will change my mind. my e-penis doesnt need lengthening by showing I use brand name components in my forum sigs.
12-25-2007, 09:40 PM
Osarion

Not even sure if these are still circulating around a year later, but if the pump did perform better then they shouldn't have to sell it as a Laing, but give it its own name and let the better performance sell itself. To me selling something as something it's not only speaks badly for the company at fault.

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