watercooled retail X6800 on ASUS P5W-DH

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07-19-2006, 10:56 AM
afireinside

Quote:

Originally Posted by stone_cold_Jimi

high OCs on air = the better Rev 5 step B1 ES chips

hot = X6800 retail (Rev 6 step B2) so far.

It was only a fix for RAID5 afaik, but it seems to have hamstrung these chips quite a bit.

More data still desired.

How many step 5's did you see run prime @ 4ghz though? Almost all of them were only single thread loaded so much less heat.
07-19-2006, 05:50 PM
vmsein

Dual Super Pi 32M stable at 290x13 for 3775mhz:)

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/143/pi290yn4.th.jpg
07-19-2006, 06:48 PM
Gun_Strife

ur gonna try higher right ur temps seem pretty good
also like your pic of setup
would you mind some 3dmark05(06), I would like to see if you have time
07-19-2006, 07:11 PM
graham_h

I wouldn't be real happy with that. V core is very high :(
Have you tried dropping the multi ?

Here's my E6600 on air

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/435/superpi38yd8.jpg
07-19-2006, 11:19 PM
stone_cold_Jimi

Quote:

Originally Posted by afireinside

How many step 5's did you see run prime @ 4ghz though? Almost all of them were only single thread loaded so much less heat.

Yeah. It's almost unfortunate that these are SPi beasts, because everyone seemed obsessed by dropping a core and trying to hit WRs.

This is bugging me. I've already laid out a pile of money on E6700 and rocket RAM and I can see, clock-for-clock, an E6700 (ES) is about 15% faster than my x2 4600 @ 3GHz. So, obviously, I want a lot more than 3GHz out of it... but how much am I going to get?
07-20-2006, 05:02 AM
vmsein

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gun_Strife

ur gonna try higher right ur temps seem pretty good
also like your pic of setup
would you mind some 3dmark05(06), I would like to see if you have time

I will run 3D Mark05/06 later this morning and post the pics for you. I will be trying higher over the next few days to see how high she can get! I'm also awaiting the arrival of a Swiftech MCW5002-775 peltier cooler early next week which will definately help keep these temperatures under control:D
07-20-2006, 05:18 AM
Waus-mod

Quote:

Originally Posted by afireinside

How many step 5's did you see run prime @ 4ghz though? Almost all of them were only single thread loaded so much less heat.

Allmost all step 5 will do 4ghz..Who needs prime.
And for the dual threaded... cmon spi is single threaded. fastest core count's, and fastest score counts.

If you want it loaded run 06 :D
07-20-2006, 05:40 AM
stone_cold_Jimi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waus-mod

Allmost all step 5 will do 4ghz..Who needs prime.
And for the dual threaded... cmon spi is single threaded. fastest core count's, and fastest score counts.

If you want it loaded run 06 :D

Well, the Rosetta crunchers need dual everything of the most realistic stressfulness. Not interested in WRs, interested in 24/7 100% week in week out at the highest stable clocks. It's still xtreme, it's the heavyweight xtreme.
07-20-2006, 06:57 AM
Supertim0r

most 6600/6700ES Step 5 will do 3.8-3.9ghz prime stable with high end aircooling/water
07-20-2006, 08:09 AM
vmsein

In order to reach dual prime stability I had to raise the voltage in the BIOS to 1.5625! It is becoming increasingly clear that there is a difference in overclockability between the engineering samples and the retail product.

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/807/sp290za8.th.jpg
07-20-2006, 08:19 AM
Verisimilitude

bummer, lets hope the e6xxx are a different story
07-20-2006, 08:26 AM
ewitte

Quote:

Originally Posted by vmsein

In order to reach dual prime stability I had to raise the voltage in the BIOS to 1.5625! It is becoming increasingly clear that there is a difference in overclockability between the engineering samples and the retail product.

There still might be a good % of high overclockers. At this time there is not enough information. Plus keep in mind the current BIOS revisions favor ES and some don't even post with Retail without flashing to something newer.
07-20-2006, 08:41 AM
Gun_Strife

look forward to seeing your results
especially with that new Swiftech MCW5002
ive really wanted to try it out but with that u need one of those other psu like the meanwell right
gl and hope to hear back from ya soon
07-20-2006, 08:42 AM
vmsein

Quote:

Originally Posted by ewitte

There still might be a good % of high overclockers. At this time there is not enough information. Plus keep in mind the current BIOS revisions favor ES and some don't even post with Retail without flashing to something newer.

I do hope that a newer BIOS will improve things for retail cpus. Here are a few screenshots of 3D Mark 05 and 06 at 3775mhz:

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6186/3dm06uo1.th.jpg

http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/6931/3dm05tp3.th.jpg
07-20-2006, 09:01 AM
Gun_Strife

aw good stuff I cant wait to get mine
are the gpus at stock speed or any oc there, heard with cf enabled you can only oc 1 card
when do you think youll have the new block
07-20-2006, 10:16 AM
xgman

I wouldn't get too hung up on these temp readings. I'm not convinced that they are correct, but even if they are, the overclocks while maybe not quite as good as the ES's, are pretty good and I don't think they would be possible if the chips were running hotter than what they are designed for.

In any case here is a 4gig 6800 to compare:
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=468819
07-20-2006, 10:17 AM
Joe Camel

EDIT: lol ya beat me by 1x minute xgman

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best i could do on my very first night with a Conroe:

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1787/tight32mqx5.jpg
(not dual Pi stable)

came from: Newegg

http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/1...0260hy8.th.jpg

same CPU cooling but NOT this Vid-card
(ASUS P5W-DH, Corsair C3 6400's, Zippy 700w PSU,
Laing D4 pump @ 14v, Storm G5 (silver), twin single pass "double core" rads in series, 4x Nidec 130CFM 120's)

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7231/pict0259tb8.jpg
07-20-2006, 04:08 PM
vmsein

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gun_Strife

aw good stuff I cant wait to get mine
are the gpus at stock speed or any oc there, heard with cf enabled you can only oc 1 card
when do you think youll have the new block

The video cards are slightly overclocked using the Overdrive feature of the Catalyst Control Center. I believe both cards are overclocked this way, as opposed to using ATI tool where you have to create profiles for each card individaully and apply each time you reboot. Hopefully, improvements to ATI tool will make overclocking Radeon cards easier in the future. The Swiftech waterblock should be here by next week:D
07-20-2006, 05:00 PM
mdzcpa

Congrats on a nice set up vmsein. I have a few observations and comments I'd like to share.

First off, your temps are right in line. Perhaps a smidgen warm...but just barely. Although the Conroe's run remarkably cool they do report what seem to be higher temps. I beleive the sensor chips & SMBus readings just need to be improved. Heck, my X6800 could run at default settings on a stock OEM heatsink with the fan unplugged...no kidding. Bottom line, if its stable its cool enough. Go by how warm your block gets.

Second, not every ES was a superclocker. My ES is doing just about what yours does. I think what your getting may be mainstream results. Of course being in an enclosed case hurts (not sure your's is, but mine is).

Congrats again and enjoy the power:toast:
07-20-2006, 05:15 PM
vmsein

Thanks very much for your kind remarks, mdzcpa, as I find your input to always be helpful. Except for the externally mounted Thermochill radiator, my system is fully enclosed in a Lian Li case. I'm relieved to know that my temps are right in line for this type of setup and cpu:toast:
07-20-2006, 06:54 PM
RAGING DRAGON

If the temperature sensor is not reporting correctly and you can practically unplug the fan at stock speed, what is the actual temperature ( in degrees C)? Has anyone measured it?
07-20-2006, 07:42 PM
Raja@ASUS

well you can use core temp, and it'll show the same, the temp sensors for conroe are actually in the core itself, core temp taps those directly. Conroe does run hot when overvolted, volt for volt it's hotter than AMD X2. I have E6600 stepping 5 B1, 1.4v idle with PA120.3, Storm and D5 with 7/16 tubing is around 35-40 degrees depending upon ambient. Many other users have the same.

regards
Raja
07-21-2006, 06:14 AM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdzcpa

Bottom line, if its stable its cool enough. Go by how warm your block gets.

Exactly! :toast:
07-21-2006, 06:23 AM
xgman

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Interesting temp compare pic I found between a probe and software monitor.
07-21-2006, 06:42 AM
Joe Camel

Quote:

Originally Posted by raju

well you can use core temp, and it'll show the same, the temp sensors for conroe are actually in the core itself, core temp taps those directly. Conroe does run hot when overvolted, volt for volt it's hotter than AMD X2. I have E6600 stepping 5 B1, 1.4v idle with PA120.3, Storm and D5 with 7/16 tubing is around 35-40 degrees depending upon ambient. Many other users have the same.

regards
Raja

not to my experience :(

http://img56.imageshack.us/img56/9006/idletempbi0.jpg

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4...oadtempiq5.jpg

is there a new Core temp out (to go with the new CPU-Z :stick: )

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