Conroe E6300ES review =)

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If a game is being tested at 640.480 to show one CPUs better performance against another, at the expense of real-world use...whats the point?

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well , like some people mentioned here , to isolate GPU bottleneck and compare actual CPU performance ;) I wish i had Crossfire setup so we can actualy use real world resolutions , unfortunately i have only one card at the moment :(
Like lets say F.E.A.R. , it won't run well enough with single X1900XTX @ 750/900 with AA enabled with and high resolutions . Been playing online , on a busy 16 people deathmatch server , fps monitoring with FRAPS 2.74 :

Opteron 170 @ 2.8GHz
Cooler Master Hyper 6
DFI LP UT nF4 Xpert
2x512Mb , 255MHz @ 2-2-2-5-1T
X1900XTX @ 750/900
250Gb WD2500JS-00MHB1 , S-ATA 16Mb
Win XP Pro SP2 , Cat 6.6

Arithmetic average from 5 runs for each resolution :

Min. FPS :

1600x1200 , AAx0/AFx16 , Max. Quality , SoftShadows - Off. : 27.8 fps
1280x1024 , AAx4/AFx16 , Max. Quality , SoftShadows - Off. : 22.4 fps
640x480 , AAx0/AFx16 , Max. Quality , SoftShadows - Off. : 45.0 fps

Avg. FPS :

1600x1200 , AAx0/AFx16 , Max. Quality , SoftShadows - Off. : 81.02 fps
1280x1024 , AAx4/AFx16 , Max. Quality , SoftShadows - Off. : 62.22 fps
640x480 , AAx0/AFx16 , Max. Quality , SoftShadows - Off. : 111.98 fps

1600x1200 , AAx0/AFx16 - it was ok
1280x1024 , AAx4/AFx16 ... well - i didn't enjoy it , fps are too low for online gaming :nono:
640x480 , AAx0/AFx16 - very smouth , but couldn't see anything on my 21" CRT lol

FRAPS log's if anyone interested :

1600x1200 , AAx0/AFx16 :

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Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
44107, 590161, 31, 297, 74.737

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Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
90145, 903468, 29, 284, 99.777

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Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
66125, 897281, 28, 305, 73.695

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Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
73354, 899767, 24, 274, 81.526

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Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
67761, 898443, 27, 219, 75.420

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1280x1024 , AAx4/AFx16 :

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Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
54865, 898226, 28, 165, 61.082

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Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
57340, 896534, 20, 189, 63.957

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Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
10410, 147029, 22, 242, 70.802

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Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
30760, 591178, 27, 152, 52.032

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Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
43307, 684274, 15, 201, 63.289

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The point of running 640x480 is to compare actual CPU performance , isolate them from GPU bottleneck and get the idea of what would be the best choise for more powerfull next generation GPU's (or SLI/Crossfire setups u can get today if u are hardcore gamer :D )

I doubt it will do that big of a difference at another .2 increase. However, keep in mind that this is a chip costing at least 100-150 less than the OPty...

Even thought it will be lost onthe motherboards at these prices :(

i might be buying my first intel cpu in the next few months

DVD > DiVX Encoding with Auto Gordian Knot 2.27 :

Movie : Night_Watch ( 1h54m )
Movie size on HDD : 4.06Gb
DiVX preset file size : 700Mb

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could you try to install the AMD MultiCore Optimiser Fix (if you didn't yet) and then run the games benches (and not only) again?

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Originally Posted by alayashu

could you try to install the AMD MultiCore Optimiser Fix (if you didn't yet) and then run the games benches (and not only) again?

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Is there any proof it actualy does anything ? Because i realy don't want to rebench all that for no obvios reason , it will take too much time for that - about 12-16 hours :fact: of non-stop benching lol :rolleyes: :D
The good thing is that i managed to run all the tests with Opteron 170 @ 3.0GHz (had to use portable AC for that - it's very hot here :( ) and i am going to add all the data right now :toast:

Now my Opty is finaly happy again :)

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Good job Gorod.:toast: What was that old Ricky Nelson song;

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you can't please everyone so you got to please yourself

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I wonder if the retail CPUs will have a good chance of getting to 3GHz. I'm ordering one of these for my next system which should be done at the end of the summer. From what I've heard 2.4 should be easy to get unless you have a dud, but I'd really like to get 2.8 or 3. 60% OC sounds very nice to me :D

I'll be selling my current setup to get some extra money towards a DX10 gfx card as well so overall it should be a mighty good system by the time vista comes out (although that could be 2008 at this rate :p:)

Good job Gorod, keep it up ;)

Your benches prove not only that the C2D is THE gaming CPU, but also that its "2 MB only" L2 isn't holding it back like some people (hint: Sharikou) predicted it would.

Unless I overlooked something, it seems that the closest competitor of the Allendale is not the Opty, but the Yonah :D

nice review. i just might grab a E6400, but i'll wait a while longer for better boards to come out. if not, D975XBX for me :)

Can't wait for my e6400!!

Great work Gorod! I think many fanf AMD soberly will understand what CPU at present is most attractive on a parity productivity/price.
I have made the choice: Conroe - for me!

Hay Gorod rd600 MB wit its independent FSB of cpu clock can be proven usefull with this cpu:toast:
By the way i think i playd a guy named Gorod in FEAR MP last nite, eh if that was you my fear nickname is Ei$t|hc and yea i win allot like most of the time:D with my Dothan sys.

Anyway great overclock on default vcore. Any reason why you have not up the Vcore?

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By the way i think i playd a guy named Gorod in FEAR MP last nite, eh if that was you my fear nickname is Ei$t|hc and yea i win allot like most of the time:D with my Dothan sys.

Anyway great overclock on default vcore. Any reason why you have not up the Vcore?

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That was me lol :D , i remember nickname Ei$t|hc from last night :D , we probably played together :toast: I play on my Opty rigth now , 2.8GHz and single X1900XTX @ 750/900 , have to use 1600x1200 AAx0/AFx16 because lower resolutions look ugly on my monitor (good old 21" CRT :) ) , i will probably need to go CrossFire for that game - single X1900XTX can't handle that kind of settings very well :(

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Any reason why you have not up the Vcore?

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A very simple one :) - it hits FSB wall , need a better cooling for NB to go any higher then that . Found 80W TEC may be i will try use it to cool Northbridge , will see how much further it can go :toast:

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Originally Posted by v|aDy

I have made the choice: Conroe - for me!

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You won't regret ;) :toast:

You remember mentioned about pelt? Put it on NorthBridge, and will be to you at least 500FSB. If you want about a design such waterblock I to you I shall tell in PM.

I like it. Looks good, is inline with most tech sites. Great Job :cool:

nice Gorod
just dont know if i should go for e6400 or e6600
so at 1600x1200 , AAx0/AFx16 , Max. Quality , SoftShadows - Off the frames were to low for you in fear mp

thanks guys , glad u like my small review :)

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Originally Posted by v|aDy

You remember mentioned about pelt? Put it on NorthBridge, and will be to you at least 500FSB. If you want about a design such waterblock I to you I shall tell in PM.

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I have that TEC ready , only need to find waterblock now , will try to find one soon :)

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Originally Posted by Gun_Strife

nice Gorod
just dont know if i should go for e6400 or e6600
so at 1600x1200 , AAx0/AFx16 , Max. Quality , SoftShadows - Off the frames were to low for you in fear mp

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It's not like u can't play it , fps are ok it's playable . But it's far from being perfectly smouth like lower resolution are , it was so much better performance wise when playing lower resolutions ;) Crossfire/SLI is higly recommended for F.E.A.R. if playing high resolutions :slobber:

Just did VDDR mod yesterday and i am going to retest that 6300 with some nice D9's (Corsair 8000UL) . Updated result's , more game tests and 3DMark & Aquamark comparo benches coming soon :toast:
Please note : high performance Boot Strap = 1066 ;)

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2.45V , 537MHz @ 4-3-3-4 - Pass

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E6300ES @ 3.0GHz , 429x7.0 , 1.20V
Tt BigTyphoon
BAD AXE Rev.304
2x512Mb Corsair 8000UL @ 537MHz @ 4-3-3-4 , 2.45V

Super PI 1.5 32M : 16m57s

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Nice Allendale review :)

Thanks for such a comprehensive review Gorod :toast:

This should help a lot of ppl make upi their minds which CPU to buy, great work :fact: :clap: :woot:

Another try , 3200MHz 3D & 3300MHz Super Pi done :toast:

E6300ES @ 3207MHz , 458x7.0 , 1.31V
Tt Big Typhoon + Portable A/C
Intel D975XBX "Bad Axe" Rev.304 , 1.918V MCH
2x512Mb Corsair 8000UL , 458MHz @ 4-3-3-4 , 2.5V
X1900XTX @ 783/951
Win XP Pro SP2 , Cat 6.6

Aquamark3 : 148.971

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3DMark05 : 15042

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3DMark03 : 25221

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3DMark01 : 51362

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3300MHz



E6300ES @ 3300MHz , 471x7.0 , 1.31V
Tt Big Typhoon + Portable A/C
Intel D975XBX "Bad Axe" Rev.304 , 1.932V MCH
2x512Mb Corsair 8000UL , 471MHz @ 4-3-2-4 , 2.5V

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on the Screenshot i did see 3.3 Ghz only 2.83 Ghz with SuperPi why ????


Regards

Roger


Sorry Bug in CPU-Z or Speedstep !!!!