News Conroe 2 Duo will be beat by AMD this year

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06-02-2006, 12:51 AM
kl0012

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Originally Posted by Unrealcpu

Hmm looks like a conroe killer

O yeh? How do you see it from the picture? :nono:
06-02-2006, 01:11 AM
Unrealcpu

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Originally Posted by kl0012

O yeh? How do you see it from the picture?

:slapass: :slapass: :slapass: :slapass: :slapass: :slapass:
06-02-2006, 01:12 AM
yotomeczek

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Originally Posted by kl0012

O yeh? How do you see it from the picture? :nono:

propably :D
:wierd:
06-02-2006, 01:21 AM
BlackX

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Originally Posted by kl0012

O yeh? How do you see it from the picture? :nono:

Its hard to explain.. lets say, need to be educated ;)
06-02-2006, 01:28 AM
TL1000S

@unrealcpu..
Powerpoint-slides shown at salez-meeting as "proof of concept" is very very pathetic in this forum..
And maybee you have'nt noticed that you are posting AMD "commercials" in the Intel part of the forum... :D
06-02-2006, 01:41 AM
Unrealcpu

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Originally Posted by TL1000S

@unrealcpu..
Powerpoint-slides shown at salez-meeting as "proof of concept" is very very pathetic in this forum..
And maybee you have'nt noticed that you are posting AMD "commercials" in the Intel part of the forum... "Snorreh".. :D

Ignorence :rolleyes: is bliss. :p:
06-02-2006, 01:55 AM
mesyn191

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Originally Posted by TL1000S

@unrealcpu..
Powerpoint-slides shown at salez-meeting as "proof of concept" is very very pathetic in this forum..
And maybee you have'nt noticed that you are posting AMD "commercials" in the Intel part of the forum... "Snorreh".. :D

Umm, if it was a proof of concept they wouldn't have samples and die shots of it already, it'd still be in design phase. Unless they screw up we'll be seeing chips in 6 months... I mean heck if you don't want to talk about unreleased products we can't talk about Conroe then either right?

I'd hardly call some powerpoint slides a commerical either...
06-02-2006, 01:57 AM
GoThr3k

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Originally Posted by metro.cl

how many people will buy a top of the line cpu? few then think about 2x

the ones that are going for the world records, in i dont know which bench maybe??
06-02-2006, 01:58 AM
NiCKE^

You should have posted this in AMD forums, I'm 100% sure that this will take a wrong turn and being AMD Fanboys vs Intel Fanboys. How you buy reading know that AMD will take back the top spot is a mystery, since you got now clue about the performance and if it can match the Conroe. Pure speculations from you side IMO and once again, wrong section.
06-02-2006, 02:30 AM
grimREEFER

kentsfield in january
works on 965p cihpset afaik
amd is pretty screwed unless i supppose they can run 8 cpu's on one mobo
06-02-2006, 02:41 AM
Leeee

ah all this fighting and noones realised that none of this is actually out in
stores yet.

the next year will be very interesting indeed.

may the best cpu win
06-02-2006, 03:22 AM
thunderstruck!

I just look at the thread title and cry. How is this news? Everything here is speculation. Unrealcpu thinks that he has the power to see into the future, and a die shrink is all that it will take for AMD to beat Conroe. I'm no fanboy, but starting a flaming thread like this in the Intel section and repeatedly saying

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Originally Posted by Unrealcpu

You are crazy that you think a die shrink will not save AMD.

isn't going to make it happen. Sounds like this is wishful thinking. K8L may or may not beat Conroe. How can you be so certain when it's a year away, and you haven't seen it in action. Stop having premonitions unreal, and show some facts.
06-02-2006, 03:37 AM
Unrealcpu

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Originally Posted by thunderstruck!

I just look at the thread title and cry. How is this news? Everything here is speculation. Unrealcpu thinks that he has the power to see into the future, and a die shrink is all that it will take for AMD to beat Conroe. I'm no fanboy, but starting a flaming thread like this in the Intel section and repeatedly saying isn't going to make it happen. Sounds like this is wishful thinking. K8L may or may not beat Conroe. How can you be so certain when it's a year away, and you haven't seen it in action. Stop having premonitions unreal, and show some facts.

I guess what we can do is bring this thread back from the dead 6 months from now or in 2007 and see who is right :)

I will keep you in mind though;)
06-02-2006, 03:50 AM
NiCKE^

Yeah let it die but before change the thread title beucase in 6 months everyone will ask who the f*ck doesn't know that Conroe is Core 2 Duo and not Conroe 2 Duo?
06-02-2006, 04:23 AM
davefr

Sound like AMD is pretty desperate by throwing out all this vaporware.

Theoretically a dual FX-62 system will beat a Conroe but then Itanium will beat the FX-62's. What's the point??
06-02-2006, 04:26 AM
davefr

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Originally Posted by xombie2000

No because if you'll recall, P4 was 65nm and it was a flop. What it took was a full redesign.

P4 (ie Northwood and Prescott) were both on 90nm. Northwood was 200mm and Prescott was 300mm.
06-02-2006, 04:29 AM
iboomalot

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Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich

This 4x4 thing is garbage, unless you are looking for a cheap server. 2 x X2 3800+ CPUs gives 4 cores on an ATX (?) board with regular RAM, which is cool.

A die shrink will not save AMD. Conroe has upwards of 30% lead at the same clockspeed. Look at Conroes already doing 3.8 GHz on air. 3.8 GHz * 1.3 = 5 GHz K8 to catch up.

There is no way an AM2 CPU (even 65nm) on any cooling can catch Conroe on water. Anybody care to argue?

its more like 1.15 - 1.20 not 1.3 ;)
06-02-2006, 04:47 AM
Max Tractor

It borders on embarrassing, the only plan imo, head down/slash prices until they can be competitive with conroe or whatever they are calling it today
06-02-2006, 04:55 AM
GoThr3k

why is it embarrassing, its nice for the people who need to break some insane records
and mayber its a thing to perform better than conroe? i dont know if its desperate, but it sounds really nice
are we complaining about SLI or Crossfire?
didnt think so
and for what reason was SLI introduced? idd, to pawn ATI
so stop complaining about how stupid it is
06-02-2006, 05:12 AM
iterations

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Originally Posted by Unrealcpu

Hmm looks like a conroe killer

Hmm looks like PowerPoint slides
06-02-2006, 05:14 AM
Unrealcpu

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Originally Posted by iterations

Hmm looks like PowerPoint slides

Doesnt INTEL use powerpoint slides? :D ;)
06-02-2006, 05:19 AM
Max Tractor

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Originally Posted by GoThr3k

why is it embarrassing, its nice for the people who need to break some insane records

So they intend to sell/procure to those on the paylist how many?

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Originally Posted by GoThr3k

are we complaining about SLI or Crossfire?
didnt think so

Yes, problomatic drivers/set up, buy one now get one later, but the get later one gets discontinued. Sh*t I am not talking about sli/cf on topic pullleesss

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Originally Posted by GoThr3k

so stop complaining about how stupid it is

Who is complaining, not I, I just more or less said it was a sh*t response to getting their a** kicked
06-02-2006, 05:20 AM
Johnny Bravo

hmmmmm this is all a bit of a flamebait really, wouldn't this be better suited for the AMD forum? You're pretty much walking into the lions den here and then drop kicking a cub in front of the pride. Perhaps not the wisest of moves mate...
06-02-2006, 05:20 AM
Fixxxer

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Originally Posted by Johnny Bravo

hmmmmm this is all a bit of a flamebait really, wouldn't this be better suited for the AMD forum? You're pretty much walking into the lions den here and then drop kicking a cub in front of the pride. Perhaps not the wisest of moves mate...

QFT
06-02-2006, 05:27 AM
derektm

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Originally Posted by Unrealcpu

Doesnt INTEL use powerpoint slides? :D ;)

Yes but you speculate on something that is many months away :slapass:

I vote for this thread to be closed before all hell breaks loose.

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