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05-31-2006, 10:02 AM
charlie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willis

with guys like kingpin and oppainter and kinc,
conroe wil not slaughter AMD in 05 or 06 :)
any comments on this statement?:)

lol

when OPP, Kingpin and KINC run Conroe... AMD will be delegated to 3rd or 4th page status.
05-31-2006, 10:02 AM
Tasselhof

Real thanks for cinebench results :)
05-31-2006, 10:08 AM
GoThr3k

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie

lol

when OPP, Kingpin and KINC run Conroe... AMD will be delegated to 3rd or 4th page status.

lol, but its true :)

45nm isnt planned before 2008 so dont count on it next year

65nm should be ok, hitting 3.4ghz shouldnt be any problem, it could release a 3.2ghz with 90nm, but with higher TDP
@willis
you mean massacre, right?
05-31-2006, 10:19 AM
M.Beier

Well, Im counting on it for Q2-Q3 @ 2007, but what the heck ;)

Charlie, rename "Xtreme Fanboy" :p:
05-31-2006, 10:32 AM
cupholder2.0

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.Beier

AMD will be ahead once 65nm A64 is launched, but... I actually think penryn will hit stores VERY close to AMD 65nm,... And 65nm vs. 45nm, back to the current stage.

There is no reason for the A64 to beat Conroe even with 65nm. The K8 is just inferior to core and die shrinks will not solve that. AMD can only overtake Conroe with a new architecture and this won't happen for a while. Besides, like you said, Intel has 45nm coming anyway..
05-31-2006, 10:33 AM
IamAnoobieCheez

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willis

with guys like kingpin and oppainter and kinc,
conroe wil not slaughter AMD in 05 or 06 :)
any comments on this statement?:)

3dmark 05 and 06 are ghey benchmarks. I would not even spend my time running those benches. I wouldn't run it(no matter what CPU is since it's not system dependent) even if somebody come knock on my door, get on his knees and kiss my shoes and offer me $100 bucks and begging me to run those benches. I'll tell the guy "Get lost".

The top benchmarks are:
- 3Dmark 2001
- Quake3
- Quake4

These would be the top three. Case closed.
05-31-2006, 10:38 AM
GoThr3k

Quote:

Originally Posted by cupholder2.0

There is no reason for the A64 to beat Conroe even with 65nm. The K8 is just inferior to core and die shrinks will not solve that. AMD can only overtake Conroe with a new architecture and this won't happen for a while. Besides, like you said, Intel has 45nm coming anyway..

45nm isnt coming very soon :stick:
05-31-2006, 10:52 AM
cupholder2.0

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamAnoobieCheez

3dmark 05 and 06 are ghey benchmarks. I would not even spend my time running those benches. I wouldn't run it(no matter what CPU is since it's not system dependent) even if somebody come knock on my door, get on his knees and kiss my shoes and offer me $100 bucks and begging me to run those benches. I'll tell the guy "Get lost".

The top benchmarks are:
- 3Dmark 2001
- Quake3
- Quake4

These would be the top three. Case closed.

I agree, 3dmark 05 and 06 suck ass for benching the system as a whole.
05-31-2006, 11:05 AM
M.Beier

05 + 01se + Am3.....
05-31-2006, 11:59 AM
gullf1sk

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willis

with guys like kingpin and oppainter and kinc,
conroe wil not slaughter AMD in 05 or 06 :)
any comments on this statement?:)

Its weird tho.. Futuremark removed ALOT of Conroe based results.. FCGs and Collalers included. If i remember correctly, those were higher then any of the AM2 benches.

I wonder why Futuremark removed the Conroe benches :confused:
05-31-2006, 11:59 AM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willis

with guys like kingpin and oppainter and kinc,
conroe wil not slaughter AMD in 05 or 06 :)
any comments on this statement?:)

Don't say that coz you haven't even seeing a Conroe at 5GHz under LN2 benching 3D with 2 x X1900XTXs at 1GHz/1GHz each under dual-head cascade -100*C.........When the time comes, we'll see......;)
05-31-2006, 12:15 PM
railer

Quote:

Originally Posted by hipro5

Don't say that coz you haven't even seeing a Conroe at 5GHz under LN2 benching 3D with 2 x X1900XTXs at 1GHz/1GHz each under dual-head cascade -100*C.........When the time comes, we'll see......;)

And you will be the one that shows us:D I realy liked your Dothan results. Go Hipro, go get a XE conroe and show them
05-31-2006, 12:17 PM
M.Beier

George, got those 2* 1/1GHZ cards laying near?? Can you please send them ?? ;)
05-31-2006, 01:21 PM
Iconyu

Quote:

Originally Posted by gullf1sk

Its weird tho.. Futuremark removed ALOT of Conroe based results.. FCGs and Collalers included. If i remember correctly, those were higher then any of the AM2 benches.

I wonder why Futuremark removed the Conroe benches :confused:

Over 40 days until launch was the official reason. They also do this with new videocards from both ATi and nVidia so it's not something new.
05-31-2006, 01:43 PM
hipro5

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.Beier

George, got those 2* 1/1GHZ cards laying near?? Can you please send them ?? ;)

Heh, heh, heh.......No we need them.....for the time been......:) ;)
05-31-2006, 01:48 PM
M.Beier

Come on, send it along with 2x tubes from gorillakos :p:
05-31-2006, 01:49 PM
kiwi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willis

still 5 pages higher then intel the past few years :lol::D

j/k :banana:

Joke or not joke, but imo P4 @ 7Ghz is not so bad. There are a few ~55K scores with them which is certainly not bad at all. It is just, that most results were only SP by our japanese guys and they did not bench 3dmark that much :)

And remember there was also so powerful dothan :)
05-31-2006, 01:57 PM
charlie

Quote:

Originally Posted by M.Beier

Well, Im counting on it for Q2-Q3 @ 2007, but what the heck ;)

Charlie, rename "Xtreme Fanboy" :p:

Lol... if you looked back at some of my FX51/53/55/57/60 threads... I was a big time AMD fan boy, too... whatever is faster at the time, you know?
05-31-2006, 02:12 PM
M.Beier

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie

Lol... if you looked back at some of my FX51/53/55/57/60 threads... I was a big time AMD fan boy, too... whatever is faster at the time, you know?

Same oppinion Charlie, but, arhh, dont know the word... You moon AMD and say shi*t about them, which isnt appropiate since the crew, which you are a part of, launched a "campaign" telling ppl to behaive as far as fanboyism goes...

Well, I dont think your makin' an example here mate, but hell, call Charles @ phone and have a word with him, he's the boss :)
05-31-2006, 03:56 PM
theteamaqua

i thought one of the picture suggest that E6700 was underclock @ 2.4 GHz?? so the benchmark wasnt running at 2.4 GHz??
05-31-2006, 06:44 PM
IvanAndreevich

Quote:

I agree, 3dmark 05 and 06 suck ass for benching the system as a whole.

Imagine how much Quad SLI is limited by CPU :rolleyes: Now take 5 GHz Conroe (which is ~ 7 GHz K8). Ownage :slap:

Oh and whoever is saying that K8 will beat Conroe @ 65nm.. PURE BS. If you can use a calculator you can confirm it for yourself.

Conroe owns pure and simple. K8 got NOTHING on it @ 65nm or even at 45nm. I haven't used an Intel in my primary rig since Pentium 3 Coppermine because Intel was crap (with a notable exception of when they got ahead with Northwoods for a bit before K8 came out). Guess what? Intel is going to be ahead now and I will buying Conroe because it is -

1) Much faster (biggest jump in performance since 486->Pentium IMO)
2) Cheaper
3) Lower power consumption
4) Overclocking potential is crazy
5) WTF else do you need?
05-31-2006, 07:06 PM
shogan191

5) WTF else do you need? Just a board and a chip. LOL
05-31-2006, 09:10 PM
Your_Boss

Quote:

Originally Posted by idiotec

Is it under clocked to 2.4 in some of the tests? :confused:

I think both. He clocked some Conroe scores at 2.7Ghz and some at 2.4Ghz. I also saw him compare SPI times with clock speeds of 1.7Ghz.

A Conroe at 1.7Ghz = 29.625 1M Super PI
AMD FX-62 at 3Ghz = 29.828 1M Super PI

So you can see the difference of the clock for equal scores. :)

I don't think everything will scale this way but it sure is impressive. :clap:

See it here http://www.coolaler.com/modules/news...hp?storyid=470
06-01-2006, 12:40 AM
GoThr3k

Quote:

Originally Posted by IvanAndreevich

Imagine how much Quad SLI is limited by CPU :rolleyes: Now take 5 GHz Conroe (which is ~ 7 GHz K8). Ownage :slap:

Oh and whoever is saying that K8 will beat Conroe @ 65nm.. PURE BS. If you can use a calculator you can confirm it for yourself.

Conroe owns pure and simple. K8 got NOTHING on it @ 65nm or even at 45nm. I haven't used an Intel in my primary rig since Pentium 3 Coppermine because Intel was crap (with a notable exception of when they got ahead with Northwoods for a bit before K8 came out). Guess what? Intel is going to be ahead now and I will buying Conroe because it is -

1) Much faster (biggest jump in performance since 486->Pentium IMO)
2) Cheaper
3) Lower power consumption
4) Overclocking potential is crazy
5) WTF else do you need?

thats when you keep overclocking mind :)
99.9% from pc owners dont overclock their cpu mate
if amd crancks up the speed it will be a tie
at stock i think
06-01-2006, 01:26 AM
duploxxx

nice work and comparison, we know that conroe owns 32bit en single thread due to its large fast cache. can you run a comparison of cinebench in 64bit? i know its a lot of work

you will see what i mean, calculated some test i've seen and for now the difference i performance proffit is really owned by amd

conroe + 17-18% performance
k8 +31-38% performance

there goes the future

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