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Already researched that. According to gskill rep, ZX is stock memory, HZ is overclock memory ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by leviathan18
EDIT: The MSI mobo was chosen due to no issues in installation etc. Check out the reviews for the asus am2 board...they're filled with problems. Apparently bios hasn't been given a chance to improve yet.
Perkam
ok but im not saying exactly tat model lets find an am2 mcp 590 perhaps just put dfi as a brand there afaik is the one designed by oscar so it should be a killer mobo
edit: perhaps that memory fits in the gaming budget if you use the 160gb sata hdd and you will have 2gb in that system making it a real killer system
That's true, but the 160GB (hd for xps killer will always be two for raid 0) is only a few dollars less than the 250GB model, which actually satisfies the same requirement of an XPS killer seeing as the real Xps 600 has 500gb. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by leviathan18
AMD XPS Killer is up in full format !!!! :woot:
Perkam
Brainstorming Mainstream Rig...
Perkam
xps killer should have
1 74gb raptors new model
1 400gb wd or perhaps the 250gb
1 PA160 AX 50z MP05 and MP01
Actually you're right. I was originally hoping to put a water cooling system but decided not to because the original xps wasn't water cooled.Quote:
Originally Posted by leviathan18
So yea if you have any ideas for a whole w/c kit, I'll list it seperately :)
You have a good point on the hard drives too...lemme see what I can change there.
PLUS !! Mainstream Power rig is now @ $999 :woot:
ive seen some guys here using that case with water one is maxx and one is another guy that used 1 PA 160 let me find all the parts and ill post the links for you
the idea is to have a XPS killer in price perfomance and cooling
cpu block
http://www.petrastechshop.com/aqmpproliedu.html 65$
gpu block
http://www.petrastechshop.com/aqmpungpuwab.html 45$
pump
http://www.petrastechshop.com/aq50in12pu.html 75$
rad
http://www.dangerdenstore.com/produc...&cat=76&page=1 90$
tubing
http://www.petrastechshop.com/7id5odmagepu.html 0.3$
extras
http://www.petrastechshop.com/1odtf1and7id.html 2$
http://www.petrastechshop.com/madeficap.html 9$
74gb raptor and 400gb hard drive added.Quote:
Originally Posted by leviathan18
For the w/c setup...you sure the pump is going to be enough for an sli system ? Plus, I think the case will need more than just 30cents worth of tubing :p: Not to mention chemicals etc etc.
Also, what exactly is cooling that rad ?? :confused:
Perkam
yes the pump is fine the rad is a 160mm im sure it can handle the 3 things without major mods in the case well you can add 60cents of tubing you need just destiled water no thing else
but you can always PM maxxxracer and ask him i tought in something small easy to install and practical you can always put a HE 120.3 or a monster core a iwaki and storm in there but i wanted a balance price/perfomance in all my ignorance about WC :p:
Looking good...
But I would still go with the single card solution for the Intel " mainstream gaming" rig, as that would allow for upgrades in the future, making for better future-proofness :)
Best Regards :toast:
LOL Fine !! :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by DTU_XaVier
I'll change that when I get the chance.
Perkam
For now I'll take your word, if only because of how much you've helped :)Quote:
Originally Posted by leviathan18
But yes i'll invite a few w/c gurus over for some price/performance watercooling pwnage.
Seperated the Intel info from the thread. Once AMD is done, i'll make a seperate guide for Intel.
Perkam
perk why you dont use the gskill ZX DDRII 800 pc 6400 in the AMD mainstream power get the 160gb hdd sata and use onboard audio and you keep the same price point you are looking now but you have 2gb @ ddr 800 i think is better than ddr 667.
Yes better get maxxx over here he will give a nice WC setup for a nice price he is the best in this subject
i have some ideas for the hello xip rig
amd am2 athlon fx 62
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145033 this memory
DFI 590
2 new raptors 150gb raid 0
1 500gb storage
1 raptor 74gb (just for benching? )
pc power and cooling 1kw psu
lian li g70 case
Just a suggestion mate :)Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Saw it suggested a few times before, and just wanted to chime in with my 2c :)
Best Regards :toast:
One thing I might suggest is the Xclio 450w PSU
or the Fortron 400w PSU
The first PSU for the budget rig doesn't have any PCI-e connectors.
Looks cool but just a question, do you offer any kind of support for the hw? :P
I think most of the cost is there.
thw HW has warranty support yes the forum will give you support and 1000 times more accurate than dell tech support also ppl that buys this systems has some knowledge
and still is cheaper and better than most sytems you can buy out there from dell alienware etc
Anyone who buys a rig for $2700 should know how to register on a forum :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by NiCKE^
You can subscribe to online support groups (paid ones) for computer hardware for a LOT cheaper than $1000 ;) (the difference between the xps/killer rigs)
Perkam
Good Advice, Fortron 400W it is :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jumanji969
Lev, can't dump the sound card for mainstream rig, and neither can I offer lower hd space than the gaming on a budget rig (that has 250gb too ;) ) plus 2gb of ddr2-667 isn't half bad considering it's not really for the overclocker.
Though I haven't finalized it yet, that's why its still not in the first post. Good advice ont he XIP rig, but that I wont be building until a tad later.
Perkam
but i dont know if you run into dividers using the 667 memory isnt am2 suppossed to use ddr2 800 ?
In a worst case scenario, I'll give it 1GB of fast DDR2-1000 which should be cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by leviathan18
Perkam
Lol at that, wouldn't the 2GB DDR2-800 probably be better in the long run? Congrats on the XPS killer, I should show this to a friend of mines, who wants an XPS instead of getting one custom. What's the use of puting the PhysX card in there? From the reviews that I have read, it is next to utterly useless. For the WC, I think maybe the Danger Den D5 instead? It's quieter and I think about same performance. Btw, the new guide is looking great man, keep it up. Sorry I couldn't be more of a help with the first one, was busy building my own rig lol :stick: .Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Usama aka Ferrari Freak
The physx card is party of what Dell uses to distinguish the xps, hence its added in there. Plus the XPS killer is supposed to be faster, cooler and more innovative than the xps 600, hence the physx ppu (i myself was waiting until it hit $149, but we had to add it in at a startling $280, which had to be balanced out elsewhere).Quote:
Originally Posted by ferrari_freak
W/C Rig is still undergoing review, I'll take the danger den d5 into consideration.Quote:
For the WC, I think maybe the Danger Den D5 instead? It's quieter and I about same performance.
Np Np :) You were a great help in the first one and these guides do not get built without support from all those who replied here :)Quote:
Btw, the new guide is looking great man, keep it up. Sorry I couldn't be more of a help with the first one, was busy building my own rig lol :stick: .
Perkam
ferrari frek if you check the Wc guide by maxxx you can read D5 50z are about the same but the 50z is better it run cooler afaik and draws almost nothing of power