Final clarification regarding Conroe MB support

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Originally Posted by Anemone

I've seen some tests that begin to show that one of the weaknesses of Conroe is multitasking. It appeared that both the P4 and the A64 did better generally than Conroe.

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Dual core pwned by older single cores in multi-tasking?! :stick:

I'm just having a hard ass time finding a board for my conroes, i just wish they would release them already, not to mention if anyone knows any boards that will for sure be kentsfeild compatable i am very interested in that as well, i would like to just buy one board for conroe and kentsfield.

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Originally Posted by Anjelous

I'm just having a hard ass time finding a board for my conroes, i just wish they would release them already, not to mention if anyone knows any boards that will for sure be kentsfeild compatable i am very interested in that as well, i would like to just buy one board for conroe and kentsfield.

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im pretty sure FCG posted that intels 975x badaxe will support kentsfield, rev 304 that is...

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Originally Posted by Ldawg

im pretty sure FCG posted that intels 975x badaxe will support kentsfield, rev 304 that is...

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Hmmm i must look into this a little more, if that is the case then i will only need to buy one board, and its already been released....then i can get quad core goodness started adn post some benches for you guys.

Mmm quad core goodness in a matter of months :)

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Originally Posted by Anjelous

I'm just having a hard ass time finding a board for my conroes, i just wish they would release them already, not to mention if anyone knows any boards that will for sure be kentsfeild compatable i am very interested in that as well, i would like to just buy one board for conroe and kentsfield.

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I have the D975Bx ver 304.

I need to find a conroe :confused: :(

And 2 EVGA 7950GX2's on their way.

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Originally Posted by Anemone

Mmm quad core goodness in a matter of months :)

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Hehe Maybe for you, if i can get a board, it will be quad core goodness in a matter of weeks/days.

Would be cool with an excel spreed sheet of all mobos that support conroe :)

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Originally Posted by Nosfer@tu

Would be cool with an excel spreed sheet of all mobos that support conroe :)

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I Second that! The sheet could have seperate columns for features (eg:- Sata, PCI-E, Max Memory Supported, Chipset etcetera) and Prices. Hmm, i could work on creating such a sheet, but would need help in filing it in with values and Specs that i miss.

Mickey

Does any1 know if the ASUS P5WD2-e Premium rev.2 will support conroe, or only rev.3 will support?
tkx:)

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Originally Posted by Anjelous

Hehe Maybe for you, if i can get a board, it will be quad core goodness in a matter of weeks/days.

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Quard core is at the VERY erliest Q1 2007 but more likly in Q2, motherboard manufactores have them allready thoug :)
TO the best of my knowlige!

Boards marked with BOLD support conroe.

Intel D975XBX (revision 304 and greater) motherboard with latest BIOS ("0618"/1009)

Foxconn 975X7AA
ASUS P5B & P5B Deluxe
P5WD2-WS/P/E Rev. 1.03 boards should have a new pwm buck controllers that supports VRM11 standard.
ASrock 775Twins Revision 2
DFI Infinity 975X
P5W DH Deluxe

What about
MSI 975X Platinum ??
Gigabyte GA-G1975X ??
ABIT A8WD ??
ABIT Fatal1ty FP-A9D??
ABIT AW9D ??
Albatron PX975X ??
ECS PF24 ??

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Originally Posted by Nosfer@tu

Would be cool with an excel spreed sheet of all mobos that support conroe :)

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I've started the Spreadsheet and put it up in "The Motherboards Spreadsheet Project" thread here. Hope people get interested and help it grow.

Mickey

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Originally Posted by mickey79

I've started the Spreadsheet and put it up in "The Motherboards Spreadsheet Project" thread here. Hope people get interested and help it grow.

Mickey

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Accualy. All I want to know is what board has most modding potensial, Vdrop and so on.

And what has max fsb.

I will cope with the fact that it only has 2 x Sata or 1 IDE :)

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Originally Posted by beast-usa

I have the D975Bx ver 304.

I need to find a conroe :confused: :(

And 2 EVGA 7950GX2's on their way.

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you robbed a bank ? :woot:

Any news about DFI Lanparty 975? ;)

I have a 6600 on the way and was getting ready to order a Foxconn 975X7AA but on NewEgg I read this: "Revision AA does not support Conroe. Revision 975X7AB is on the way, and will offer more overclocking options (Memory Divider Options) I should have the CPU by Wednesday and want to make sure the mobo I get is compatible.

Hi guys !

I dont know if this is obsolete info to you, but anyway
here it goes:
I have an Bad Axe ver 302 with ADP 3189 buck controller on it.
I checked its specs and finded out that it does support VR11.

http://search.analog.com/search/defa...+3189&local=en

FEATURES
Selectable 2-, 3-, 4-, or 5-phase operation at up to 1 MHz per phase
±7.7 mV worst-case differential sensing error over temperature
Logic-level PWM outputs for interface to external high power drivers
Active current balancing between all output phases
Built-in power-good/crowbar blanking supports on-the-fly VID code changes
Digitally programmable 0.5 V to 1.6 V output supports both VR10.x and VR11 specifications
Programmable short-circuit protection with programmable latch-off delay
APPLICATIONS
Desktop PC power supplies for
Next generation Intel® processors
VRM modules

So is there any chance at all, that Conroe support will come
with Bios update ???
Or is it just those resistors and capacitors which will do the trick ?
Because i thought that D975XBX was originally designed for Conroe.
Wasnt Conroes "nickname" Bad Axe at in some early design stage ?
( The register 2004 or 2005 if i remember ).
I hate to buy a new mobo twice a year, cause they cost ~250€ +
shipping here in Finland.

- MTP69 -

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Originally Posted by mickey79

Ave,

Don't know if this the right place. Was going to start a new thread, then i saw this pile-up and thought maybe this is a better place.

I've been waiting for almost a month now, ready to build a new rig, all of the other components decided & ready to purchase... but i'm just waiting for a Motherboard that suits my needs. Which is basically,

- Core 2 Duo Ready
- Crossfire Ready

Thus far i haven't spotted a single motherboard in the market that is ready for both these features. Anyone heard of any motherboards out in the market or releasing soon which support these two features?

I will be building my rig based on the Intel D 930 chip (I won't be purchasing a Core 2 Duo immideately, i'll wait for prices to go down)... but i don't want to replace my motherboard 6 months from now when i decide to get a Core 2 Duo, which is why i want a compatible motherboard now.

Rest of my system looks like this:

- Intel® Pentium® Processor 930 3.0GHz, 800MHz FSB, Socket 775, 2x2MB Cache, Dual Core Retail
- Sunbeamtech SUNNU550-US-BK Nuuo 550 Watt Power Supply (Black) Retail
- G.SKILL 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail
- Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 300GB 3.5 SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
- GIGABYTE Radeon X1300 GV-RX13256DP-RH Video Card - Retail
- ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro CPU Cooler - Retail
- ARCTIC SILVER Ceramique Thermal Compound - Retail
- Pioneer 16X DVD±R DVD Burner With 5X DVD-RAM Read Black ATAPI Model DVR-111D

Just waiting for a Core 2 Duo/Crossfire ready motherboard.

Mickey

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I'm in a similar situation as you. I'll be getting conroe at the end of the year and I'm waiting for a Core 2 Duo/Sli ready Mobo.
Until i get conroe i'll probably get a Pentium D 805 and overclock the hell out of it but as you, I first need a MoBo that supports conroe.

I got this aswer from Asus, when I requested a Core 2 supporting bios for my reworked P5WD2-E board:

"After checked with our RD, due to the normal life circle of our product, P5WD2-E Premium doesn’t support Conroe before PCB 1.03G rev.

So even you change the VRM, due to the circuit limitation, the 1.02G rev motherboard still will not work with Conroe CPU."

So it seems that asus will never provide a conroe beta bios for p5wd2-e even for testing with modded boards :) . So Roger after all ,,, conroe & p5wd2-e = no go ?

Before PCB 1.03G rev seems that p5wd2-e+conroe wont work. Clear as water...


@ The Stilt: how did you rework your P5WD2-E ?? Im curious :p:

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Originally Posted by ^don.k's^

Before PCB 1.03G rev seems that p5wd2-e+conroe wont work. Clear as water...


@ The Stilt: how did you rework your P5WD2-E ?? Im curious :p:

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- Certain pin of PWM Buck Controller lifted
- Lifted pin connected to certain voltage
- Certain voltage connected to certain pin of the socket
- Certain pin removed from the socket
- Few added resistors that connect certain traces

That was pretty much it.
Before the rework diagnostic card gave only two slashes (which pretty much means nogo). After the mod it just hangs because of some bios issue.

I am pretty sure that it would work with proper bios and according to certain mb engineer it also would ;)

Mmmmyeah. Proper application of certain soldering iron. :)

I'd love some info, to start working on the AW8D engineering sample we've got...

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Originally Posted by The Stilt

- Certain pin of PWM Buck Controller lifted easy :D
- Lifted pin connected to certain voltage - I know which one...
- Certain voltage connected to certain pin of the socket yep, found it
- Certain pin removed from the socket ???
- Few added resistors that connect certain traces found these too...

That was pretty much it.
Before the rework diagnostic card gave only two slashes (which pretty much means nogo). After the mod it just hangs because of some bios issue.

I am pretty sure that it would work with proper bios and according to certain mb engineer it also would ;)

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So close... ;)
Need that BIOS though...

revision 304 of the d975XBX ( bad axe) supports crossfire or sli as well as conroe to my knowledge.

I have a Pentium D 930 and I am just trying to find some info on the best bios to oc this chip, right now the default bios doesn't have jack for options. besides just the burn in 1 percent at a time intervals.

*EDIT : evidentally you can use sli, but its not officially supported? sound accurate ?

for now it should only work with the sli hacked drivers.

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Originally Posted by freecableguy

Still much speculation and rumor running around regarding Conroe support for current 975x motherboards. Let me take a moment to clear the air for all, once and final. Listen up! ;)

1) Boards based on the 975X chipset, available for sale right now, are NOT Conroe compatable, nor will they be with just a BIOS update. The reason why is that the current boards all have a PWM buck controller that does not support VRM revision 11. At the very least a small revision to the board will need to be made along with a new BIOS. End of story.

2) 965X boards, available for sale soon, will all be Conroe compatable. These are being designed to support Conroe from release. They will most likely arrive in market before comparable 975X boards and well before Conroe is available to the public.

3) If you plan on running Conroe later this summer. DO NOT buy a 975X board now with the hope that a BIOS will be made that makes your Conroe drop-in compatable. Now, if you are buying a 975X board for other reasons, knock yourself out.

I am providing this information to the public so that you don't all buy boards and 2-3 months from now cry your eyes out when you find that you need to buy yet another board.

Let the rumors stop! :fact:

-FCG

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If you take a look at this link...
http://www.intel.com/products/mother...5xbx/index.htm
You might think that what you have mentioned is not true, but
this does however confuse me about what you have said and
what is written on Intel's website. This has really got me or am
I reading it all wrong???