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Originally Posted by Lastviking
Yes, if you don't need SLI, U-D is better than Expert.
CFX3200 VS Expert I will choose CFX3200.
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Originally Posted by Lastviking
Yes, if you don't need SLI, U-D is better than Expert.
CFX3200 VS Expert I will choose CFX3200.
Thanks again for the reply. Any word on how much or when it'll hit the egg?
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Originally Posted by jnick
I am not sure about CFX3200 price. I only know CFX3200 RD580 is more expensive than DFI NF4.
Here in Germany one shop has already listed it for 239.90€.
http://www.hpm-computer.de/hardware/...cfx3200dr.html
@ AndreYang
Thanks for your great testing. :)
Andre - On your UCCC test . . . that wasn't the Gskill HZ's, was it?
And they will ship to Finland... gee, now just have to wait that DFI will ship them :p: :cool: :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by merlin76
Does the Expert still clock 4x512 BH-5 better than the U-D though? Also is the 4-phase Vcore reg useful with dual-core?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
Nice pics and review of the board BTW :toast:
Damnit, I can't wait that longggg!!!! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
Seconded, DFI 975X with Conroe under SS phase is where it's at.Quote:
Originally Posted by HKPolice
yes thanks for those tests , very impressive just got to find one now ;)
I must say that the DFI CFX3200-DR is one of the best or if not the best 939 motherboard that there is.
The overclockability and stability of this board is simply exceptional.
The RD580 "Skeletor" chipset can easily reach 1500MHz LDT frequency with tight timings and in every day use. My board can run HCI Memtest with 1600MHz LDT frequency without a problem (320FSB, 5x LDT).
Also overclockability and stability of the memory has been taken to a whole new level, thanks to the adjustable clockbuffer chip.
http://www.elektroni.fi/Stilt/CFX3200-DR_LDT1.6GHz.jpg
Board looks good, nice review Andre :)
That's interesting Tony, for being designed for BH-5 I still lost 10Mhz with my Expert as compared to the same mem with Ultra. I guess that may be because every DFI board clocks totally different though..Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
tweak the expert and it will do as good or better...anyway I have a thread for the different DFI NF4 boards, this ones for RD580Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldonko
What memory are you using ???Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
Someone have tested this board with some G-Skill HZ :fact:
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Originally Posted by Counter CS
My result is using GSKILL HZ UCCC.
What exactly is the clock buffer chip? Where did you get the program to tweak it, and how do you tweak it for various types of memory?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
Its the same clock skew IC Asus have used, clockgen will tweak it from XP and bios will tune also.
YGPM :).Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Sorry! i find your UCCC test on PAge2.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
BTW, can you run MEmtest86+ on BIOS too see if you get some errors on test5 plz ???
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Originally Posted by AndreYang
Thanks for the info andre, this may just be my next board ;)
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Originally Posted by Counter CS
Sorry..........I had sold HZ to my friend in few days ago.
This is my next motherboard!
But WHEN?
DFIstreet wont even let people ask questions yet.
3~4th week of April in the UK apparently.
Hopefully not long after for release here in .au either :)
SO how long till US release
This week I hear, i have just recieved one as well as Wesley off anandtech, he will review it soon to coinside with the launch.
There are a lot of options on this board, I see a lot of you asking a lot of questons as soon as you get it, IE we only just got used to 15 levels of drive...now we have a lot more than that ;)32 :eek: VDimm almost on 0.01steps from 2V to 3 V then it jumps in .03V steps to 4.15V.
This really is looking to be the ultimate ddr1 motherboard, and just shows why waiting for Oskar and DFI is usually worth the wait.
They are available to pre-order in UK , so hope to have one early next week :)
just found out the price ,equivalent to 253 Euros :(
£176! Not a chance in hell!
I think you have been looking at the same store ,lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Draxx
Not to far from you it seems ;)
This motherboard will be best seller.
I'm waiting mine tommorow
Can't wait..
I am ready to set up a my rig based on 2*X1900XT CF mode.
I am waiting for this board so I can go CrossFire as well.
Also I just ordered a new Opteron 170 and hopefully I can get some nice clocks from it.
Me waiting Too...:rolleyes:
With my "poor" Opty 146 and an ATI X1900XT...
What is the result of the Sapphire not having this? What will be the difference?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
So if just considering the OC capability and general performance, I assume this motherboard is superior to the Sapphire?
I promised myself no more upgrades till next year.. but I don't know if I can wait :slap:
:) Same hereQuote:
Originally Posted by ahmad
Now oblivion with mods needs more than 256 vram :(:( I need this board and another x1800xt 256 so I can play it in full glory (that's how I'll justify it to myself.... and the missus lol) :slapass:
Hey guys, does this board have the Japanese aluminum capacitors that the Venus has?
this board seems pretty amazing, hopefully the price wont be too bad......actually who cares, im buying it no matter what!
peace :cool:
I just bought an asus ar832 mvp.....must not buy:)
I've been trying to tell folks the same thing Tony. It seems like a hard message to get across. Folks just want to use Ultra D/SLI DR settings.:slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Anyways, this new board does look very nice indeed.
On the site with UK preorder it lists it as having "100% Japanese Capacitors".Quote:
Originally Posted by TheReds
G
Can someone tell me if this board supports 4x1GB ram@1T?!...
I have Gskill HZ....
I believe it does...
Look here... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...6&postcount=14
Thanks. It seems that DFI CFX3200 is able to support 4x1GB ram@1T.... But i find it difficult to equal the OC performance of a 2x1GB ram@1T... That would be great.Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
Best Regards
At the moment boards advertising 4*1gb @1t can only do it just above stock ~205mhzQuote:
Originally Posted by JohnMike
Does the RD580 chipset still suffer from lower single-card performance relative to an NF4 chipset? I am interested in this board but do not plan on going crossfire, this would be only for improving overclocking and such. The whole issue, however, is I wont be interested if it scores lower @ same settings in single card mode than and Ultra-D or expert.
You mean, i can´t go futher than 205mhz?!...Even with OC on it?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vincentvega18
If that's the case, i must use dividers and go for OC on CPU only. But should the dividers with 4*1GB @1T performance well as it does with 2+1GB @1T?!
Best regards
JohnMike,
No, there's no "limit" if that's what you mean.
The board can likely run 4*ds sticks 1T at 200MHz, as optimised board design decreases signal corruption/whatever which hinders memory controller's stability. There's no magical mobo design that could make K8 memory controller magically handle that amount of ranks at 1T and >>200MHz.
The actual problem in this matter is the K8 IMC, not board design.
I understand, but my second question remains... Should the use of dividers with 4*1GB @1T performance well as it does with 2+1GB @1T?!... By this way i would go higher on CPU, but the ram remains no more then 200Mhz....Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
Best Regards
Dividers shouldn't be a problem.
There's no performance hit for running a divider thanks to the integrated mem ctrl which runs the memory at async regardless what ratio user selects in bios. Using dividers and running the core at a higher freq actually has a positive effect on bandwidth because the mem ctrl will run faster along with rest of the core.
Thanks, for your explanation. I really need a board that support 4*1GB @1T, and i think that DFI CFX3200 is the best and ultimate choice, because i'm going to build a system with Win XP64bits that will run Catia V5 64bit version on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
Best Regards
Nice review. That looks like THE board for s939.
since i missed out on the yonah mobo and probably will the next shipments.. my patience is nonexistent at this point.. im in badly need of a new system
will this mobo be available this week?
I think it will be available next month, if you can wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
please, say today/tomorrow not next month
:frag: someone frag me please
I want one last month! LoL... I wish I could atleast preorder one.
hey! i want one 2 months ago :D lol
TankGuys has them for preorder and state that "should" ship 4/17/06Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
tnx blue078 appreciated!
will some pieces arrive in Europe? Germany, .... it's just too much, can't wait ... WHEN? next week, month, year? help .... :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
I'm totally amazed ------> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=95813
Well there already shipping here in The Netherlands as of today :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerosupra
Mine will arrive tomorrow its already on its way :banana:
Shop -> www.icomputers.nl
Sorry to re-post this, but no one answered my question: is the rd580 still slower at single card benchies than NF4?
I would like to know this too Im thinking of upgrading my current mobo to thisQuote:
Originally Posted by madgravity34
Yep, here's the story:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue078
We have some on the way from DFI in California. However, we're in MI, so it takes a few days to get here. My guess is they show up Friday or Monday.
Now, I'd further guess that the "big" stores (Newegg, zzf, et. al.) will get them sooner, since they have branches right in CA, often in the same city, so it's quick shipping :D
That being said, it remains to be seen how prices compare, I haven't seen them listed at any of thier places yet.
Boards will be in stores monday.
bios for you to use, DFI released me to post this as one of mine. I flashed with awdflash with /py /sn /cd /cc /wb switches.
Grab it here
ok, their on stock now!!!! :banana: :banana:
BUT (just when I wanted to press the order button) THE PRICE IS HUGE !!!:slobber: :slobber: :slobber:
I just cant believe its so expensive .... I'll have to wait :(
will be available next week here in portugal.......280€....:slapass:
Em k loja? :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by steelballzz
pm meQuote:
Originally Posted by Counter CS
It's in stock in the UK:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Socket_939.html
Still quite a hefty pricetag!!
313 USD after taxes? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by JvT
$225 (at newegg) is not that expensive. Intel people will defend that statement. People are buying those AOPEN 975 yonah boards like hotcakes for $300. If this does better than the expert and venus then it is more than worth it.
In germany it's even "cheaper" (and still in stock)...
http://www.hpm-computer.de/hardware/...cfx3200dr.html
Still I'll wait and see what the prices will be in Denmark. I'm sure it will not be possible to get a danish price until after easter...
i want one 2 :D
steelballzz - dpois benchamos o meu otpy + a minha nova DFI e a tua......
i paid something like $220 for my expert when it first came out, if i didn't already have a $200+ board, or something that performs equally as well as this new one, i might purchase it. but imo, it seems like a waste of money if you have any of the current 939 boards from the past year or so. unless of course you have money to throw around cause you like to play with everything new that comes out (we all like to play with new stuff - but sometime our logical side take over and keeps us from hitting the checkout button ;) )Quote:
Originally Posted by babalouj
Or you want the DFI crossfire solution :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Diverge
I wouldn't be bothering with another mobo myself if I wasn't going crossfire. I have enough decent ones about. I have the DFI ordered and incoming this week.
I'm trying to decide if I want to stick with 1gb sticks or try 4 512s that overclock higher. Most 1gb I have seen don't OC that well.
Here's a guy that just got the DFI CFX 3200:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?threadid=178864
My 1GB sticks overclock to 280+ FSBQuote:
Originally Posted by malficar
Hello,
have anyone of you Setiings for 2Gb Crucial Ballistix?:slobber:
I'm about to order my WC parts but does anybody know which chipset block fits on this CFX3200 in case of a CrossFire X1900 setup?
Swiftech MCW30, DD M4 Expert or something else?
TIA
That ATI chipset only uses a few watts AFAIK so it shouldn't get too hot with just air cooling unless your going all silent.Quote:
Originally Posted by T2k
Lucky you, mine top at 261 1:1. If I relax my Tras to 10 I can get a little more, like 265. Now my old 512mb Ballistix sticks are good for 306 @ 1:1. If anyone can point me to a 2gb kit that does 300 and up I'd greatly appreciate it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
Yep, exactly that's what I'm planning to do, that's why I want to know which block will fit. :cool: Silence is golden...:fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by derektm
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Originally Posted by malficar
The TEAM GROUP 1GB TCCD sticks go to 300 and beyond. Check their forum for OC details. ;)
Thank you so much. I will investigate.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcbalaban
Just pulled the trigger on:
MB DFI LANPARTY UT CFX3200-DR 939 - Retail (Qty=1, Price=$219.99)
MEM 1Gx2|GSK D500 F1-4000USU2-2GBHZ - Retail (Qty=1, Price=$157.00)
I hope that's the right G.Skill "HZ" memory to have decent results.
I want something that's going to be able to really push my new Opty 165 CCBBE 0610DPMW that I got yesterday.
EDIT: Wow, paid for overnight shipping and I just got my shipment notify! I love/hate Newegg :)
Ok, I'm going to try to bring that down to my level of understanding (which amounts to copy/paste abilities). In my new CFX3200-DR BIOS (Tony's BIOS BTW) I see the following options and I think you said change them to:Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang
RD580 HT PLL Speed: High Speed
HT Bus NMOS Drive Strength: 31
HT Bus PMOS Drive Strength: 31
HT Bus Receiver Impedance: 05 (default - no idea what to set to)
CPU HT Bus Drive Strength: Strong
When you said "we need to set CPU HT bus Drive Strength and RD580 HT Bus NMOS/PMOS to Strong and 31/31"
I understand the 31/31 because the HT NMOS and PMOS both have settings that go up to 31.
I understand the "CPU HT Bus Drive Strength to strong" because it has a setting that says "Strong".
I _guess_ that setting the RD580 HT PLL Speed to High Speed is the same as "and RD580 HT Bus (to strong)".
You also said some things about the Impedeance that seems to indicate you think it is obvious what someone with half a brain should set it to but could you spell it out for those of us with less than half a brain?
IOW:
Am I right about the above settings and what should I set the HT Bus Receiver Impedance to?
EDIT: I meant to say, here's my equipment:
CFX3200-DR
(2x1GB) G.Skill HZ
Opty 165 CCBBE 0610DPMW
--still testing--
Man do I really want to spend this much on a motherboard with conroe coming out? I have a second XT coming. I'm about ready to flip dice.
I bought this and I dont even plan to use crossfire now or in the near future. Just because it is hypped to be an extremely powerful overclocking platform. That hype has some backing too, the ati chipset has shown that once it is properly comnfigured that it will do incredible things.
make sure you read the whole thread and understand what ODD DIVISOR CORRECT is. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mcbalaban
Sorry? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hassan
My DFI CFX3200-DR has arrived yesterday. Since then i had no problems with the board with the CPU/RAM settings @default/auto even with the bios that came with the board.
Tried few benchs, SuperPI, 3Dmark06 and Everst Ultimate Edition, but scores were really low. I find it normal because i didnt changed any ram settings.
I have 2x1GB Gskill 4000 HZ UCCC and i have then on the orange slots.
My question, What slots are recomended for the Gskill 4000 HZ?!.... On my DFI Expert had them running on the oranges, should it be the same with this board?!
Best Regards
But's what is just a couple of months behind Conroe, DDR3 or XDR maybe? Sometime's you just don't want to wait, atleast that's how I expericence it, in the begin I had the patience to wait, now not anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by texuspete00
And the motherboard should be very good...:)
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Originally Posted by JohnMike
The same Expert Orange slot.
Everyone update New Bios..................old bios has some problems for infineon chip.
http://andre.kj.idv.tw/R5D_037.rar
Andre,
I had that file mid-last week, is it newer/different than the one on the dfi site? all of the bios i've got for the rdx show 3/28 date so its a bit tough to tell.
http://us.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downloa...FLAG=A&SITE=NA
Any one have some UTT BH-5 settings for this board, this is where I max out. Any higher and I get memtest errors out the wazu. My Trc sucks but thats where its stable.
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Originally Posted by butter_fry
I never tried 04/17 bios. My bios is from Oskar Wu.
Does mean that we can't expect the same results you've achieved because we don't have access the that bios? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreYang