so how's that 6800GS performing?
so how's that 6800GS performing?
Gigabyte i-Ram installed... it was a tight fit. I managed to install a reduced Windows XP totalling around 800mb in size
which left me 3.2gb for apps which is more than enough...
Interestingly the i-Ram with 4 dimms and a battery pack seem to have increased temps in my system... at idle cpu up
a degree to 27C, PWMIC up one at 29C, and chipset up 4-5C @ 37C. I think the hot battery pack is directly below the
chipset.
Windows boots fast and is very responsive, all apps just pop right up. So far so good... :)
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/iramidle.png
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/i-ram.jpg
To fix the extra heat generated by the i-Ram and solve my hot pwmic temps, I put a silent 1100rpm 120mm
Coolermaster fan pointing down towards pwmic and chipset... I closed the case already for this quick 2 min warmup at
2800mhz 1.43v so I'll take a pic of it tomorrow. It seems to keep temps reasonable...
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/pwmicfan.png
GS is performing pretty well, I didn't bother voltmodding for this setup but under the MCW60 it's clocking up to 540/1250 and load temps on the GPU are around 36C under 3DMark05 monitored by rivatuner...Quote:
Originally Posted by KoukiFC3S
Nice looking stuff gocchin. May I just say though...it appears you may have an unhealthy obsession with whoever that asian girl is you have splayed all over your work room's wall, your pc's wallpaper, your signature, avatar, and I'm sure also...your bathroom, right near the toilet seat. Tell me dude, what's the deal with her? :rolleyes:
gocchin, I beg you to make sure that all of your savegames and all data files do NOT reside in the i-ram.. I run a raid-0 of raptors for my OS, and Im just waiting for it to die, but with the i-ram its even scarrier.
BUT im happy to hear its working well.. I bet that upgrade makes the system feel faster than most any other upgrade would. Now just imagine if they made the i-ram dual channel and you used two of them with SATA2... That would be 1.2GB/s of bandwidth from your OS/progs, and a total of 8GB of space.. Drool worthy wouldnt even begin to explain that.
Here's that temporary PWMIC cooling solution pic. :)
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/pwmicfan1.jpg
NO data at all is on the i-Ram, just a stripped down version of XP with the apps I need. I do have 2 x Samsung Spinpoint 250gb in the hard drive bay to handle all data duties. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer
I wish it was SATAII, it would have rocked and been even faster. But I'm pretty happy with it so far. :)
I've been obsessed with her for years and consider myself one of her number one fans. I've even seen her in person a few times in Japan, no I'm not stalking her or anything ;), it was at live concerts and musicals as well as public appearances.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
If you want more details on her or want to download a video of hers to see why I love her so much just visit my blog here. The latest video I posted of her in hawaii is.... nice. ;)
nice blog! :) :toast:
The two things I gotta quiet in this rig... DFI chipset fan and 50z.... fans and hard drives are inaudible... but those two... GRRRRRRRRRRRR.
what is the bios temp set for 100% speed on the chipset fanQuote:
Originally Posted by gocchin
I set my to 55C and seems to keep noise down but I do not have WC setup yet so I may need to deal with this issue as well
Sure wish you lived nearby to as I would pay $$ for help setting up my system...
DFI chipset, with that 120mm fan in there, simply go into bios, under the temps section set the fan max speed to like 70'c, and the min fan speed for temp like 35. It will spin slower as it will only attempt to keep the temps higher. (but temps will be fine)Quote:
Originally Posted by gocchin
Drilling..................
Drilling CompleteQuote:
Originally Posted by mion
http://marcin12.home.comcast.net/antec.JPG
You plan on capping that t, yes?
Minion, nice job fitting two rads in there. But i have to say that a simple T-line would have worked out better with regards to performance and style.
Nice job with the rads there mion! Can you post some more pics of it.
Does anybody with an DFI Expert know if a rad will fit?
gocchin hasent you silent the disk at all? Maybe its just me (and my disks :P ) but my maxtor can be heard with stock air, overclocked :/
Maxtors are loud as heck. Im slowly switching to samsungs for the noise. Theyre also faster at transfers, and dont heat up as much... win/win
FWIW...I have the my P180 modded and leaking testing as we speak...so far 4hrs plus...
not much difference except I modded the lower chamber for a 120mm intake fan in front of the HDD
My setup is a mcp655 vs 50z
I will say my storm rev 2 bottom..looked shiny but on close inspection there were marks and spots...not very happy about that..hopeful no issues
I tried to clean off the spots with alcohol...did not matter...I will post pics of my setup once I know it is up and running and leak tested
I will say on setting 5 the pump is very quiet the 250 w psu I am using to run the loop seems horrible loud compared to the pump....low hum
btw on leak testing I am running no fans..this is ok?
it's fine along as the temps are not out of control. personally I'd have the fans going.Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
..oh sorry..I running nothin but the water loop...no mobo/no cpu/gpu powered ...just running water through the system
yeah, its fine, lol, that pump doesent create enough heat :)
Well I didn't like the sound of the dfi chipset cooler and tried to track down a Jing Ting cooler. Couldn't find one so I thought I'd try an Asus A8N32-SLI board with it's silent heatpipes. Very nice board... I also took the opportunity to throw in the D5 and it's definitely quieter than my 50z when all hooked up.
In order to handle the extra heat dump of the D5, I re-routed the pump outlet to rad to storm. After redoing everything... the damn Asus wouldn't post.
I was careless that I didn't test it first to make sure it was a good board. Anyway I took it all apart and the DFI SLI-DR is back in again but with the D5 and new loop.
As I mentioned in another thread too I dropped one of the MCW60 screws/spring down the drain so it's mounted with only 3 right now.
Still good temps. Cpu 27C idle 34C load, GPU 29C idle 36C load....
Here are some pics...
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/pa180j.jpg
Hmm..does it matter whether the Rad inlet port is top or bottom???
That sucks =/
Chipset fan noise is why i went for my A8R32-MVP instead of waiting for the DFI...
Well the board has already been shipped back for RMA... so I will get another one.
I figured the inlet on the top of the rad would be good since gravity helps the water flow downwards through the rad... it's probably not the case, but I feel the pump works harder to push the water up the rad... :)
interesting....thanks
I love this forum people are so nice and helpful
I like it, it gives your loop nice sweeping bends, it doesent look "forced" like some builds you see 'round :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gocchin
I just finished installing my system in the P180.
Cooling consists of
BIP2
MCW60
Storm Rev2
AQX50Z
Ill post pictures when I get a chance. Went together relatively easily.. was a bit of a pain to fill due to the rads location but I just pulled it off the mounts for a minute and got it filled.
btw gocchin, can you take a picutre of the backside of the mobo tray. I want to see how you routed all of the cables.
Looks nice, sucks about the board. I do find that the chipset on the DFI is annoying but I find if I keep it below 4500 RPM it isn't too noticeable. As for pushing water up the radiator, any work done moving the water up the radiator is made up for when the water comes back down. Since it is a closed loop gravity plays essentially no role, what goes up must come down.
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Originally Posted by gocchin
I keep hearing about the "heat dump" of a D5 is it that BIG?
15-20W compared to the 8W of a 50Z and 4-5W of a DDC-1.
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Originally Posted by creidiki
and are their flow and head rates comparable?
50Z has slightly less head and less flow.
DDC-Pro (10W) has about the same head as a 50Z, about half the max flow of a d5, or thereabouts.
DDC-Ultra (18W) has considerably more head, less max flow, and dumps about 8W like a 50Z.
Which makes choosing the best pump very complex, actually... with a smaller rad, the 50Z beats the D5. And the winner between a D5 and DDC-Ultra very much depends on the curves of the blocks. For example in that pump test those french dudes did, the unmodded (!) 10W-DDC came withing like, 0.2c of the D5. And thats with about 10% less head and like 1/3 the max flow.
And now there's the new D-dseries to add to the confusion... the new D4 (which beats the D5 we have now, apparently) and the D5 Vario.
new D4? where did u see that? is it just like a non vario version of the D5?
I need someone to do a noise comparison between the DDC+, D5 and 50Z. l
http://www.alphacool.de/xt/product_i...anschluss.html
"Laing D4-Pumpe 12V D4-Basic 1/2" Schlauchanschluss"
3.4m, 1400l/h
where did you get the specs on that page? it didnt show me aything except 2 pictures and a price? very strange..
have to go to the german version from the top of the shop... alphacool.de. i tried to link to it directly, but it does some automagic language choosing, and there is no stats (not even names) on the english pages.
very retarded.. they need to fix their site.
*shrug* the pumps have been up on their site for what, nearly a week now... you'd think theyd have gotten around to it by now...
you'd think so wouldnt u.. lol.
Not only the new laing pumps safer from the same not "translated to english" bug. I bought from alphacool last week and i had to excercise my german... :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by creidiki
Nice job kawaii :toast:
Been running my d5 at "1" setting for 4 days straight now and surprisingly I've only lost a degree or 2 but the pump is totally silent. The nexus fans are of course silent so the loudest thing in my setup is like maxxx's P180, the powerstream... :)
Yarr, 80mm fans ftl, should get yerself some nice 120mm fannage PSU, guv'nor...
Hey Maxxx could you do a me a favor and measure the width of the grated area jus to the side of the I/O shield. I need to know if I can reliably place my quick disconnects there. I need atleast 1.75" of width there. Thanks
- Brandon
Great job man, I assume you have the OS on the i-ram (not sure on the exact name), how fast does she boot?
Brandon Ill meausure it tonight for ya.
EDIT: its 1.765 inches.. loll. ur a lucky man.
I was just lying in bed trying to be ultra-lazy and browsing from my PSP... got to this page and it said "NOT ENOUGH MEMORY" *blergh* (x_x) and fell over.
Gocchin, you psp h4xx0r ¬_¬
This leads me to believe my PSP is not Xtreme enough for this forum. I need to WC and OC it. And possibly VMod it.
well gocchins pictures have insanely large file sizes for how big they are... they should be about 1/4 to 1/8 that file size consideirng how big they are.
600x2631, 440kb... thats not too bad. PSP prolly just choked on the height :)
In any case, bad gocchin, bad! :slapass:
oh nvm.. i didnt ralize it was one gigantic picture.. lmao..
do you have any air bubbles air several days....
also is the gpu idle and load temps different than the idle/load temps on the cpu
Hehe I knew that there was a image limit per post so why not make combine 5 or 6 images into one ;). I wasn't expecting people to visit on their PSP, I know I don't :). I gave up after I got that out of memory error too!
@ nealh, yeah lots of little bubbles for around 2-3 days, now none. You'll see your t-line water level go down, just top up a little at a time. :)
yes, there are a few degrees of variance between the cpu and gpu temps... my loop goes to the cpu first so by the time the water reaches the gpu it's already warmed up a bit, also you have to remember that depending on the cpu and video card(s) used they will emit different heatloads...
Prior to redoing my loop(still releak testing)..I found gpu when testing load would go up a few degrees
idle would be 34c but it would reach 38-40C underload which matched the opteron load temp when running the atitool 3D renderer
so in my cases it seemed the gpu temp matched cpu load temp..and my loop has cpu then gpu also..just curious since I have seen some very nice idle load/temps for gpus and was curious if my findings were approriate given some of my temp issues
Solved my noisy Powerstream issue by installing a GameXtream 700w.
While not totally silent, it is by far quieter than the powerstream. The system sounds so much better now with just a small hum from 2 x Nexus and the GameXtreme combined. :)
Thanks to OCZ for sending one my way ;).
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/gsx.jpg
:YIPPIE:Pics :YIPPIE: also gocchin, hows the xtream perform?Quote:
Originally Posted by gocchin
looks like a seasonic psu.
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Originally Posted by -aDaM^
So far so good though I miss the adjustable pots on the powerstream... the 5v rail is a running a bit low... :)
So how noise level compares to just runing psu without anything vs. running it will everything hooked up. I had fsb epsilon 700w, which looks like ocz psu, it would run quiet without any hardware and after connecting mobo/gfx/cpu and booting the noise level would increase quiet a bit. Under load psu just went wild and it really presented unpleasent sound. Just for compasion I replaced FSB psu with Seasonic and that runs about the same wihout hardware and with the hardware. Also small increase in noise under load. Just wondwering if that ocz does the same thing as did my fsb epsilon?
Actually after stressing the system all night, the fan in the gameXtream definitely ramped up. It was almost as loud as the powersteam and had some chatter to it. Under light load or no load it's a lot quieter, but when that fan gets going...Quote:
Originally Posted by mion
I'm thinking of throwing in an S12 600w for comparison, since I'm trying to go as quiet as possible. Would you say you can hear your Seasonic over your case fans or pump under load?
Its odd how people complain PCP are noisy. I have the 1kw unit in my MM case and I can hear it over my Yates, but its nowhere near as loud as anyone claims during load.
Thats probably because your system is loading by about 50%, if at that.
Lots of figures get thrown about, but the truth of the matter is you can run x1900 crossfire and dual-core on a good 620W, with loads of wasted power in the 5 and 3.3v.
So you have a 1KW PSU, youre using about half of it, and the fans dont spin up... and that surprises you?
I have seasonic 600w and it doesn't run louder than one of the nexus ornage 36cfm 19dba fan. Nexus fan runs louder than seasonic psu. Even under load psu doesn't make much more noise than when it is idle. It runs 805 at 4.0/ati 1800xt/2gb ram/hard drive/pump/few fansQuote:
Originally Posted by gocchin
I'm not 100% sure gocchin, but open up that GamerXStream, there should be pots you can adjust ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by gocchin
Hey I never said I was surprised, I'm just surprised how people claim that its a noisy unit overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by creidiki
very very nice setup here, i love that THICK dampening foam and have to get some for myself!
nice PSU! :D i love ocz psu's and don't think i can buy another (MAYBE seasonic)
Finally I am practically silent!! After switching to 2 x nexus fans the powersteam noise was killing me... I switched to the GameXtream and at first thought it had solved my problem but under extreme load the fan ramped up way too loud.
In goes a Seasonic S12 600w and what a difference... thing is sooooooo quiet. Thanks to Seasonic for the psu. :)
Nearing the end of my P180 project and time for me to eye another case... ;)
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/p180psu.jpg
Hows the rails on that S12?
:)Quote:
Originally Posted by creidiki
http://www.jpop.com/gocchin/s12rails.jpg
Have you tried yet? I´d like to know if there is some drop voltages with the seasonic and how it compares to the ocz.
I meant how stable are the voltages etc, dont be obtuse gocchin ;p
Interesting to note it has a -5v, works with teh OCZ booster thingeh - which id never use but thats beside the point.
by the way gocchin you got revision 1 of that s12 power supply. Seasonic is really quiet.
I thought it was revision 2 since it was sleeved...? It came to me directly from a Seasonic Canada supplier so I figured it was pretty new....Quote:
Originally Posted by mion
:slap: Ah how stable is it... so far pretty stable.. not much fluctuation with a DMM under load.
EDIT: The box claims it to be a Version 2. :)
Sick build. Great work!
What's the 24 pin connector look like one 24 pin connector or 20pin with additional 4 pin?
Hi Gocchin,
Could I ask you where you found the PA160 ?
Nice setup :D
1 x 20/24 pin 9 molex 6 SATA sleeved... according to Seasonic it's a Version 2. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mion
S I got the thermochill from the dangerden store...
Nice PSU too bad its not modular =/
I agree, look at all the extra cables I had to just wrap up and stash away...Quote:
Originally Posted by creidiki
nice gocchin, S12 > gamerxstream :woot:
modular psu's are usally crappy :rolleyes: i know thats very general, but from what i've seen it seems true.Quote:
Originally Posted by creidiki
uhm, ocz psu's are usually good. ocz makes modular psu's as their low end models, i would say the only modulars to buy are the ocz's. there is ma logic. iv'e owned one and it ddid very well until itt wass WC, SLi, and 3GHz time along with new mobo. but anyway that aint what i came here to say
gocchin! wow you have some of the best parts there! like i mentioned before, the ONLY 2 PSU's i would ever run is a fan modded OCZ or a S12!!! and you have em! THREE OF EM! wow
hahah can i get like a larger version of that pic of the 3 for me wallpaper? :O
I've owned a few OCZ. I prefer my enermax. If i had to buy a PSU know I'd get an Enhance 600 or a Silverstone ST-60F (same psu).
Enermax and PCPC are the brands to go for. I've only used Enermaxes and PCPC. I only recommend Enermaxes for friend builds and use both myself.
Zippy/Emacs are one of the high quality units, along with PCP&C..... everything else is obsolete but.... still good.
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Originally Posted by -aDaM^
:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by PC Power and Cooling
I dont give a toss what PC&P say, im not a buying a non-modulare PSU every again. Leftover cables are dumb, and I refuse to have that stuff lying about my case anymore.
Esp as performance-pcs make moduler modded PC&P PSUs that still ahve the full PC&P warranty. Hence, the whole "modular cables bad" things is FLUFF.
Just because most manufacturers are too lazy to do it, you shouldnt fall for obsolete non-modular PSUs anymore, same as multiple 12v rails is pointless :p:
its okay :) we understand nub ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by creidiki
*shrug*
youre free to believe what you want, but i ask yourself this question: how many connections and plugs are used industrial high-voltage power?
if you want to fall into the trap that some "goldean ear" hi-fi maniacs fall into about the effect of wires on signal - guys who spend 200$ per meter on cables, and 400$ on "power cleaners" and buy into platinum-coated plugs - youre free to do it, but the truth is that a well-built modular psu can supply just as much power as a non-modular psu, and power thats just as clean.
Its not about modularity or not, but about build quality.
and youre a nub if you believe otherwise ;)
go get him Creidiki...Quote:
Originally Posted by creidiki
listen to this guy..he is an awesome person who oofers help without neg. comments(trust me I sure have deserved some)..always:toast:
Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
Plus he never sleeps so he's always available to help...:D
I sleep 8 hrs a night ¬___¬
Based on what?Quote:
Originally Posted by -aDaM^
My opinion from my modular Hiper Typer-R 580W psu is excellent. Take a look here
I looked at a few reviews and they all said the same thing :( here is a quote from one of them...Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
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It is very hard to recommend a product that fails during testing and the Hiper Type R just doesn’t cut it. Although it has a few minor flaws, it seems to be a poor PSU, as it was the only one that failed after the stress test. More worryingly this was only at 436W, not even close to the rated 580W. To kick it while it’s down, the Type R didn’t pass the Hi-POT tests either, even though it is rated for it. You can get a much better PSU for £63.44 so we’d steer clear of this one.
Verdict
The Hiper Type R looks great, but sadly it is troubled by poor wiring and proved unreliable.
I don't want to start an argue about this psu. But if u like take also a look at this review.Quote:
Originally Posted by -aDaM^
I've also checked mine with a multimeter and rails are rock stable.
maby it suits you fine, but if you loaded that PSU for what it's rated for I can guarantee it would crap out.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeBar
Its like comparing your Hiper(Honda) to a Ferrari (zippy or pcp&c)
anyway lets stop invading gocchin's thread :toast:
I didn't know Hondas were bad cars. I bet you can't drive a ferrari everyday like a honda.Quote:
Originally Posted by -aDaM^
Yup, bad comparison. Ferraris break down a whole lot more than FIATs, let alone Hondas...
LMAO:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by creidiki
Whats your max 1:1 with your ballistix and the A8N32 Gocchin ?
I didn't compare it to PCP&C cause i know they are better, this psu is in the antec, enermax, ocz category. I just replied to your claim that "all modular psu's are crap". Furthermore i believe that i have a system that stresses it quite a bit... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by -aDaM^
For it's price it's a very good choice, performance wise, plus it's one of the most beautiful psu's out there. :)
That's my 2 cents.
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