its an ihs from an other cpu ;) so i keep it :P
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its an ihs from an other cpu ;) so i keep it :P
count me in
meyt2600es will be soon here i hope and my brand new ln2 containers will arrive in 2 weeks.
So P4/Celeron IHS fits perfectly?
Anyone knows if A64 IHS fits?
i think its to big.. coz the pcb is much larger on a a64Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
i personally think it is better to make a bn ihs specially for that chip
several even. specially to use with air/ln2 and so on lol
Sure it will.. the ihs only rests onto the core.. you silicone or glue etc will be between the ihs and pcb... so no matter what core :D you can use all ihs'es from the 478 core based chips!Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
Yes, PIV/ Celeron will fit perfectly.
Dothan / Yonah has the same sizes than a PIV / Celeron.
I tried a PIV IHS on a Dothan and it worked perfectly.;)
Regards.:toast:
And do you make it stay on there forever? Like glueing it or something like that? Thermal adhessive? Or just some thermal paste like AS5 or some of that white stuff?
I put there arctic ceramique, and the container did the rest :D
Arctic ceramique.. and on the ihs--->pcb i use Black silicone kit :)
I can remove it as i will on the same way you remove an ihs from a a64 or so :)
For DICE/LN2 better creamique on core and silicone to hold ihs :)
Now, I have to find dead P4/celeron somewhere :cool:
This is what i use to "glue" the ihs onto the pcb like the same way intel and amd use:
http://www.onlinebouwmarkt.nl/winkel...%20polymax.jpg
Only mine is black..
I use car windscreen sealantQuote:
Originally Posted by Waus-mod
im not touching intels :fact: but ill help you and hipro with my cooling :DQuote:
Originally Posted by GoriLLakoS
seeing it everyday, it's not a matter of discovering, it's a matter of time (usually little) since he decides to. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by mrlobber
I can't resist to post :), anyway, I just submitted mine to CPU-Z Validation: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=79069
No overclock, it's a MoDT ES system =), installed Windows MCE. If I have time and if I do get a good board, I might OC it =)...
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/79069.png
nah c'mon! That's just notr fair to show all of those that can't afford them right now! I mean thats like offering candy to a child and then taking it away!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by irev210
Update for Aopen i975....in US
Aopen San Jose told me that this board will be stocked by ASI and Ingram Micros by next week. Since it is Mobile on Desktop (MoDT) board then availability on the usual channel (Newegg/Monarch) will be scarce.
The best thing is for some peeps that have an access to ASI or Ingram's stock availability to help check it:)
Probly a group buy with Aopen possible?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
No problem, I can tell you when it comes into stock at ingram micro and will probably have a bunch overnighted to me when they do come into stock.
I should be able to buy a bunch, and sell them to XS guys for a deal.
Oh please let me know when...:)Quote:
Originally Posted by irev210
This sounds fun while waiting for Conroe.
I hope I can get hold of some hardware. :)
And i would love to add you crotale :D
I just "accidentally" stumbled into this thread. So the competition here is to see who gets a mobo first? :p:
Can you get this mobo?Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
You know the routine:) ...Same as DFI Nforce4 back in Feb '05 or '04...
My winbonds all gone;) ...DDR2 (or probly 3) will be here to stay.
Good to see a familiar face in this strange land of Intel :p: I'll see what I can do - AOpen only? Or other brands OK?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Yup, DDR2 is here to stay, but AM2 will take current speeds and blow them out of the water ;)
Then we all move to AM2:p:
I know you can help get it...Either or will be fine.
haha
Well mayb handy to clear this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../yonahqkhk.jpg
1: ?
2: Wafer?
3: Core number?
4: sSpec#
5: LF = OEM/Tray and BX = Boxed
I think i dont have 1 right :P
btw can I play?
I've got a T2500ES.....
I'm with you on this one. I keep checking over here to see if I might have really messed up when ZZF had them so cheap. I have never had Intel so was a little hesitant. On page 6 and still no benches, kind of glad I didn't get one as I hate waiting for anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I will keep checking, please get Dumo a mb so he can post.:D
Yeah there is nothing like having a brand new Ferrari sitting in the driveway with no keys:(
soooo these motherboard will also support future Socket 479 chips i gather......
The same feeling...... like having an FX62, but no DFI mobo to run it:)Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
Probly thats what gonna happen this summer..
These guys from upstairs forum keep checking on us :) We need the mobo now...
Well, if the competition is who is going to get the mobo first, then I guess FUGGER won because of the Mac Mini =), and I get to be 2nd, coz I have one running as well =)...Quote:
Originally Posted by death metal
Quote:
Originally Posted by death metal
haha dont forget I had mine in a Dell E1705 for a few weeks now.
2+3 is FPO/BatchQuote:
Originally Posted by Waus-mod
7542A840 is:
7 = Manufacturing plant (Philippines)
5 = Year of production (2005)
42 = Week of production (42)
A840 = Batch number
is your 2500 ES a QINY or QKHL?Quote:
Originally Posted by wwwww
I know a guy that overclocked his T2500 ES to 2760mhz on an AOPEN motherboard with 1.504vcore and 920mhz bus.
Quote:
Originally Posted by crotale
yup, there are two different T2600ES's I know of.
QHJJ and QKHK
All of you guys have seen QHJJ, but not so much QKHK.
QKHK was made after QHJJ, who knows which one will overclock better, but they will probably overclock differently.
QHJJ=530
QKHK=542
I think people will see very awesome results. All i know is the second ingram micro has some in stock... i will have some on my way. I am putting a LOT of faith into yonah.
crappy laptop MBs don't count :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by irev210
Ah yes :) The up and coming Intel mastermind arrives :)Quote:
Originally Posted by crotale
You getting a Yonah crotale ?
Perkam
Please add duck in the list for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waus-mod
For others, please wait as am still awaiting their confirmation.
Thank you:toast:
Fred
My vote is going on the on trio from Greece :D Im sure that hipro will mod everything he can to get the Yonah running sweetly...
Saying that though, you cant count out the guys from Japan. Boy do they know thier Intel's :slobber:
On a little side note, I hope we can see something from the Fins. No mention of them in here. Probably keeping it quite that they have some Yonah's on thier desk with a few Aopen mobo's. Would'nt suprise me. Watch out for macci, The Stilt and Sampsa...
me and you can play together :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by wwwww
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bennah
I, for sure, will have the highest on air... but that doesnt mean much lol
Air is'nt really gunner get noticed in a thread full of all these people :D Cascade and LN2 is what you need.
haha i know. But i am looking for a nice rig to lower my electric bill. My X2 cpu doubled my bill :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Bennah
anyone got a clueQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
These? How many are there? :D
Yes, Yonah and Merom (Conroe mobile version) will be pin to pin compatible but no info whether or not MBs will support it. I guess they should, it is just bios.
well.... some one allready know more about ecs motherboards?...
I bet there will be much better board in 2-3 months and 2-3x cheaper :D And aopen will fly into recyle bin :p: :slapass:Quote:
Originally Posted by Waus-mod
this should be sweet for a future proof upgrade.......i really don't like the whole idea of 32-bitness hehehQuote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
Hi everybody here at XS.
If the Multi is locked i think there is no need for LN2 or a Cascade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bennah
13x266 = 3458MHz if the Board can handle 266 FSB. Water or a single stage should be enough to reach this. Remember the 3GHz benches with stock Aircooler on Hardwareluxx Forums.
I think we need support for the Rtm865-461 Clockgen on the AOpen Board to break the limit of 266MHz FSB in BIOS.
Maybe a BIOS Mod could do this too.
why are these ES CPUs multiplier locked :confused: WTF is that about
ES cpus have always only a range of multis available - the highest the being the default multi to achieve stock spec clock. It's only the down multis that you get extra. Only EE cpus are all openQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
fair enough...........so that's the case with AMD as well or what ES vs. FXQuote:
Originally Posted by mikeguava
TRUE Amd ES cpu's have unlocked everythings :D They have NO markings on the IHS and probably are only identified by numbers or default boot settings. FX series cpu's are unlocked up and down from x4 to x?? (I don't think I've ever seen a FX @ higher than x20). There are certain EE ES Intels that have up to x60 multi unlocked :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
yep - Extreme Editions are open up to 60 - not that anyone needs anything above 25... - no matter if it is ES or retailQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
FX=EE
3.4G with less wattage @ load will be nice:)Quote:
Originally Posted by central
Central Welcome to XS :toast:
They unlock to somewhere around 25, CPUz just says 60 but I couldn't get my ES 955EE to boot at above 25x. It would just revert to 13x. But like you said, not that anyone would need it, unless they want some uber-bandwidth-starved EE ('cause lower FSB). I just tried higher multis 'cause they seem to clock higher with lower multis (chipset problem) and found the sweet spot to be 15-17, 14 would work good after an upgrade of the northbridge cooler.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeguava
be sure to let me know too!! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by irev210
I too have one in my Sony SZ lappy too... but the laptop board really sux and so does the lappy memory...Quote:
Originally Posted by irev210
Up in between the elder:)
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/7...ture1307cu.jpg
lol...here's mine: :wth:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/9710/nf4chipset6tq.jpg
ECS seems more enthusiastic with their P23 than Aopen.
I hope they will release some samples for us soon:)
@ dumo :D nice a sl8..
And yes... ECS willl be better i think ;)
Is there already a release date for PF23?
I have ordered Aopen because it's the first one on the Market here.
But I think I also throw a look on ECS.
ECS PF23 will be available (in US) end of March....Sample probly earlier:toast:
Get ready guys:)
Mine arrived today...:toast:
Thanks FCG...:D
All those getting ECS should contact the company...this'll be the first time this number of ocers will all attempt WRs on their motherboards ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Perkam
PM, champ :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
man...cant wait to see al of u guys bench...haha...
too bad its darn hard for us in Malaysia to get such ES procs...even tho we do have an Intel mufacturing plant here...
count me in too :
bought one from irev210 here on forum yesterday.
http://www.importjdm.com/shipped/xs_gamer.JPG
is shipped so should be arrive here soon.
Got a modded R507a cooler here so this would be a nice setup :p
It will be ......ECS VS. Aopen MoDT(mobile on desktop) war:D
I hope we can get an XS group buy for either one. I will keep you guys posted.
If anybody have info please share:toast:
Man, all of these T2600s and no mobo yet.....it worse than DFI Nforce4 back in Feb '05..
Asus should have a ATX motherboard targeted for enthusiast. As far as I know it should be placed on the other side of their mATX 945 at Cebit. The ATX motherboard should be with 975X.
Why does noone talk about this board? is should have been public for everyone at Cebit.
I told Waus about this board a few weeks ago - I bet he's workin on getting one for review still :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Salkcin
DFI announced on Cebit that they are planning a i975 mobo for core duo.
But no pictures or specs right now.
Maybe there is a third force for CoreDuo.
It was a 945G I think :S
EDIT: The Asus... ^^
DFI: No comments... - But I hope your right, I've heard quite a bit of different things...
I haven't seen the motherboard myself, but got told it was without a northbridge heatsink and the chip said 975X...Quote:
Originally Posted by M.Beier
Then it was probaly an LGA card..
well now we're talking :)Quote:
Originally Posted by central
Yes, that's the first Statement i heard about a i975 mobo from DFI. Here the Link (bad Google translation) to the news from DFI what they said to the People from Hardwareluxx at Cebit.Quote:
Originally Posted by M.Beier
Why can't Asus make a real Yonah boad...:(
...
But DFI shouldn't be that bad...my last DFI Intel board was a lump of **** and costed more than A$400...:eek: Let's hope this is a bit better (given 975X I don't doubt it).
you should update your database in the sig....with yonahs and meroms :)
btw guys did any of you see what mikeguava is about to get :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: forget Yonah he's getting the next gen :cool:
besides superpi what makes yonah better to dual core AMD again? they seem to be slower clock for clock with AMD 1MB cache equivalent right?
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=2648
Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Yea right.....Just wait and see.......!.......;)
unless the new i975X platform gives it a boost..................and hopefully no cold bug :)Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
I received mine this morning!!!
Many thanks to freecableguy, and also to PRTeamJapan/Fredyama:toast:
Here in Akiba/Japan, it's expected that MSI's "945GT Speedster Plus" will be released
in next week...on 23th or so.
Release date/Availabltity of AOpen's i975mb is not clear...:(
Maybe you have allready seen, what is possible:
T2600 3 GHz @ Aopen i975Xa: 1M 19,953 s
I think, a new age starts at SuperPi...:slobber:
Hope to get the AOpen next week, but I have only a T2400 (up to now)...
They used a 166FSB and probably a crappy chipset, and crap mem (remember crap DDR2 is really crap).Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Pump it to 266FSB, 975X, some Fatsos.
Not to mention the power consumption...
what's thatQuote:
Originally Posted by wwwww
damn it i want to see 32M runsQuote:
Originally Posted by stummerwinter
Up to now I didn´t saw a 32M-screenie...
Here: 2 x Prime @ 3 GHz @ 1,5 V (CPU-Z gave wrong results) with passiv cooling...:banana:
The biggest problems seems to be the BIOS, very buggy...:rolleyes:
A mem chip from Micron, usually do at least DDR666 3-2-2 or DDR1000 5-4-4.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
:eek: DDR666 3-2-2 faintsQuote:
Originally Posted by wwwww
writes down in his black book to get the Micron chips
what is buggy with the bios..................Quote:
Originally Posted by stummerwinter
Theres a german guy from XS thats done quite some tests, I think he did 18.813 sek with a bit sub 3ghz, with a sucky heatsink on a i975X AOpen, and it wasnt optimised he said...Quote:
Originally Posted by stummerwinter
The thing is, the CPU makes no heat, and this allows us to get like -175 loadtemps ON the CPU, instead of -120 / -140 which is normal for an FX CPU with LN2, but how it scales with cold, I do not know, but since IMC aint being used, no coldbug would appear theoreticly
i read somewhere that motherboards themselves were cold bugging
I find 5-2-2 @ DDR1000 much faster [that's what my 2 gigs do] (whether it can do that depends on the revision, they'll do 5-2-2, 4-4-4, 5-3-2 or 5-3-3 depending on the revision [maybe other settings but those are the only I've seen] @ the DDR1000 level).Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
People keep telling me they're dicontinued though. bh5 of today I guess...
I know hipro is going to rip this up! I cant wait to see these results.
There seem to a lot difference between the Micron D9 fat body based memory. I've seen Corsair UL's, Mushkin XP's and the first OCZ EB's. They all seem to do 355-366MHz CAS3-2-2 @ 2,3v. The Corsair PC8000UL's I had did 480MHz CAS4-2-3-8 @2,3v (memtested for a lot of hours without error).Quote:
Originally Posted by wwwww
Other memory with Micron D9 fat body like Crucial, Patriot etc seems to top at 320-340MHz CAS3-2-2 and needs to go 5-5-5 for 500MHz.
I'm not sure, but that's the picture I got with the results I've seen untill now.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Salkcin
Weird, none of my Fatso's would like tRcd of 5 or tRP of 5. They wouldn't post at all. 5-4-4 to 5-2-2 worked fine though at the DDR1000 level.
There's some dude in the bandwidth section who made 400MHz 3-2-2 @ 2.4V or so...amazing!
In 4-2-3-8, which is the tRCD and which is tRP?
Actually, I have never tested my 2nd pair alone...they may be better than my first, my first wouldn't do stock speeds of 3-2-2 @ 337MHz @ 2.1V, it needed at least 2.15V to do that.
I'll try them alone when my new mobo arrives.
Dfi = 945 chipset same as asus. I really dont think the "normal" makers for enthousaist is gonna build a 975 chipset for core duo, coz this market is to small!
Thats why i think aopen and ecs are grabbing there change (and i like it).