Are you sure your cpu can handle such speeds? I haven't been reading the thread, so excuse me if it does say you can elsewhere. It could just be you got a sub par batch. It happens. :(
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Are you sure your cpu can handle such speeds? I haven't been reading the thread, so excuse me if it does say you can elsewhere. It could just be you got a sub par batch. It happens. :(
Yea, Im sure that it can handle it. Its a Opty 150 and I have the multi set at 9. Pretty sure that its under clocked at the multi.
Well,Quote:
Originally Posted by CRUSH-ER
Since I HAVE to use a 166 divider to run my cpu at 300, I just got bored and slapped my 1gig LE's in along with these HZ's. Basically, the only thing I had to change was 1T to 2T and it's 100% dual prime and Windows memtest stable.
Synthetic benchmark scores are lower, of course, and latency numbers are higher, but the system actually feels faster! I mean, load times are quicker for everything. I was surprised to see this since I rarely used all of the 2gigs that I was running before. Strangely, SuperPi 1M went from 29 seconds with two sticks, to 30 seconds with all 4, so it really looks like running 4 sticks is not bad at all with high fsb.
Have also 4 sticks @ ~250 2-2-2-5 2T not bad at all much more stable than crappy Ballistix!
Im working on 285 now. These are the 602s
nice
I have a set of these and they 32m Superpi @ 285 and 3D at 275. Nice sticks for the money!! I`ve been trying to add them to the database, but not sure what`s going on there, seems it`s never updated or something.
Yes they are my current favorite right now,I also picked up a gig set of there F1-3200DSU2-GBLE which Im sure will do 290 1-1 1T at 2.5-3-3-7. Its a little pricey but very good stuff.
I just recieved my pair today and i have got to say, these sticks are awesome. First setting i tried was 240 and now 270 w/ 3-4-4-8-1t @2.6v 32m PI stable
I haven't even begun pushing these yet. I might not even have to since all i really need is 270 :]
I may have gotten lucky w/ these 603s but like every OC, you win some and you lose some.
I also hit a wall with these sticks at 263Mhz (0603's) 2.8v
Should something in my BIOS settings be tweaked? I just need 270Mhz!
FSB Bus Frequency - 250
LDT/FSB Frequency Ratio - 4x
CPU/FSB Frequency Ratio - 10x
PCI eXpress Frequency - 100Mhz
CPU VID StartUp Value - 1.375v
CPU VID Control - 1.375v
CPU VID Special Control - Above VID * 102.4%
LDT Voltage Control - 1.20v
Chip Set Voltage Control - 1.52v
DRAM Voltage Control - 2.66v
DRAM Configuration Settings:
DRAM Frequency Set - 200=RAM/FSB:01/01
Command Per Clock (CPC) - Enable
CAS Latency Control (Tcl) - 3.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (Trcd) - 04 Bus Clocks
Min RAS# active time (Tras) - 08 Bus Clocks
Row precharge time (Trp) - 04 Bus Clocks
Row Cycle time (Trc) - 9 Bus Clocks
Row refresh cyc time (Trfc) - 14 Bus Clocks
Row to Row delay (Trrd) - 02 Bus Clocks
Write recovery time (Twr) - 02 Bus Clocks
Write to Read delay (Twtr) - 02 Bus Clocks
Read to Write delay (Trwt) - 03 Bus Clocks
Refresh Period (Tref) - 3072 Cycles
Write CAS Latency (Twcl) - 1
DRAM Bank Interleave - Enabled
DQS Skew Control - Auto
DQS Skew Value - 255
DRAM Drive Strength - Level 7
DRAM Data Drive Strength - Level 4
Max Async Latency - 7.0 Nano Seconds
DRAM resposnse time - Fast
Read Preamble Time - 5.0 Nano Seconds
IdleCycle Limit - 256 Cycles
Dynamic Counter - Disable
R/W Queue Bypass - 16 x
Bypass Max - 07 x
32 Byte Granularity - Disable(4 Bursts)
For 270 or higher I would drop ther LDT down to 3 from 4 and raise the LDT voltage to 1.3-1.4v and chipset voltage to 1.6-1.7v. Also try dropping TRC to 7-8 and raise TRFC to 14-16 with a drive strength of 7 and data drive strength of 2. Also drop Idle cycle limit down from 256 to 16. Change your Tref refresh period from 3072 to 3684 and try a max Async of 11 nano seconds and 8.0 nano second read preamble with a normal dram response time not fast.
K, I'm testing each stick to see if one or the other is holding me back. Or if its this CPU/MB.....
as I write this its priming at 345mhz(DDR690) 3-4-4-8 on the first stick.
I haven't did much research on the CPU's and what not, but I remember that these older Clawhammers had bum memory controllers, didn't they?
If I try and up the speed say to 7x345mhz (2.4ghz) then I get the detect raid array error on boot up. but if I run 4x345mhz it seems rock stable.
Are you sure you have your numbers right?
345mhz?
DDR690?
That number is way too high..Quote:
Originally Posted by nVmatrix
Quote:
Originally Posted by filmbot
He prob using a divider.
more than likely 166:200
I swear no divider.... I ran Prime for 14 hrs over night stable.
Here is a screen shot. If you want I'll run prime again over the day and show you. I couldn't belieive it either?!?! But like I said its at 4x345mhz (1.38ghz) if I run it at 7x345mhz (2.4ghz) then I get a detect raid array error on boot up. So I'm guessing something doesn't like the speed bump.
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/2...5mhz7ya.th.jpg
HAHAHAHAHHAAHHAQuote:
Originally Posted by nVmatrix
YOU ARE USING MULTY OF X4 thats an AMD A64 but and it puts a Divider Automatically :P!.
Your memos are running at 276MHz actually ;).
DO NOT USE x4 on AMD64.
Ahhh.... see didn't know that:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Aleman
So what divider is it using? 8/10??
Testing the 2nd stick right now and its only good to 4x315mhz so would that be 252mhz? I guess that would be the bad stick then.
Yikes. :stick:
Iam at 270 and cant get over it...we will see tomorrow.....
Well....... that sucks!!!!! I have one stick good for 276mhz and one thats a dud at 252mhz. I guess you can't get lucky all the time.
I'll just have to be happy with 250 I guess:-(
I'm in the same boat :( 1 stick does 292 the other does 254Quote:
Originally Posted by nVmatrix
then order a couple single sticks and return the worst performers...Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue078
How are the Duel Opterons with divdiers?? Are there any issues? Cause I'd rather just get a 1.8ghz Duelie and O/C it to (9x312mhz) 2.817ghz and run a dividier at 8/10. Are the duel's clocking that high??
Im not postitive about UCCC chips, but OPB said that with the new Micron chip running a divider on Optys doesnt yeild as good as performance or stability.
So Im not sure how things are with UCCC, but you may want to take that in account as just a generalization for Optys.
They certainly are doing 2800. With some skill and the right mix of Hardware even higher is possible.
Generalizations aren't helpful. Talking from experience, running with a divider or without one with a 170 and HZ yeilded the same results. But that's just been my experience:)Quote:
Originally Posted by filmbot
Oh, I know, I was just trying to give out some sort of info that maybe helpful.
Also, I wouldnt have posted that info if it wasnt from such a credible source ;)
Well if I can get 2.8gig on a duelie with mid water cooling then I'd be very happy. Anything above that would be great!Quote:
Originally Posted by flesheatinvirus
I just got in another CCBWE 170 0550UPMW and will be testing it soon,will let you know what happens.
My synthetic benchmarks are lower when running a divider, but performance everywhere else scales up as I push the cpu faster, regardless of the divider I have to use.Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
I've also not had any stability issues when running a divider.
aha
finally i get a bit lucky too
first i had 2x 512MB Corsair PC4400C25 RAM which clocked really high, but nomatter what speed or bios was allways a bit unstable (random unexplainable blue screens) and very sensitive...
then i got 2x 1GB Gskill ZX which were stable but clocked like :banana::banana::banana::banana: (220mhz max nomatter what settings)
so i exchanged those with my shop to 2x 1GB Gskill HZ which i started testing yesterday evening
till now, with the stock bios ram settings, i could boot in windows till 9x 285Mhz
and 9x 280Mhz primed a few minutes succesfull already too...
but im still looking for a good setting to run at
since my cpu likes 2700mhz max, i tried running 9x300 with the 180 divider, but it wasnt prime stable, so i tried running 9x300 with the 166 divider and cas 2.5, but also that it didnt really like (prime was ok, but 3dmark crashed)
so now (while working) im burning in at 9x300 with 166 divider and cas 3, running prime and 3dmark05 in a loop
when i get home ill see how it liked it :)
but this aint really optimal yet since now mem is running around 245mhz i suppose?
this evening ill try to see if 10x 270 with the 200 divider is rock stable...
Test it please xDDDDDDDDDD
Very interesting these HZ modules seems to clock better every week.
Now I have a venice with a TCCD clocked at 302 1:1, but in next days i'll have a 165 (multi 9), these means that if combined with a HZ kit i want to buy, i need to use 300x9 180:200 aprox. Seems very affordable.... ;)
salu2.
first 10x 270mhz seemed stable (couple of hours prime and in meanwhile 10 loops of 3dmark05, but after a few hours of oblivion everything suddenly freezed)
10x 265mhz seems rockstable (10 hours prime and in meanwhile 4 hours oblivion + 30 loops of 3d mark05)
atm im running occt at 10x 270 to see if i can reproduce the instability shown by the oblivion freeze
i didnt succeed in reproducing that freeze at 10x 270mhz
i tried 9 hours occt, 9 hours prime toghetter with 40 loops of 3dmark05, 3 hours memtest and some more oblivion without any freezes
strange... but i dont really mind ;)
hello this is my results with a pair of 601´s
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3814/timings5us.jpg
bye from spain
The pair of HZ's in my sig will run only up to 271 Mhz 24/7 stable at 2.77v. 272 and everything craps out, random BSODs, restarts, freezes in programs, etc.
That is very nice. I want an X2 4400.....I want it now.....Quote:
Originally Posted by sedg.raven
I don't know how stable his results are...but nice anyway,
hello
i test only for 3 hours of sp2004 in ram test without errors, when i can i pass the test for more
see you soon
I want them !!!
salu2.
I got 0604's :S
Will fit and test them now
EDIT:
Testing not going well at all really. 0604's dont seem to cut the mustard. I am using all the sttings in bios from GS Techs guide. Got them at 260 2.7v with them settings. 5 Mins Blend stable for the moment.
One strange thing iv noticed, Alot of ppl ahere are using idle cycle limit of 16 to get best results. As soon as i change it from 256 to 16 it fails. So im leaving it at 256 for the time being.
Im a complete n00b at ocing memory as im normally left using a divider. So i dont kno what half the timings do, or how to adjust them. I kno all sets are different so im not gonna ask to copy other ppl's settings. (iv already copied a few A64 shots into my a64 to see if it helps... no joy)
All i need out of these sticks is 270 so i can 1:1 with my opty. If anyone can help me... please feel free.
Here is a screenie of my cpuz and A64 so far
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8619/a64shot5um.jpg
Hi Postal Dude,
Doubt if this will help you in any way as i'm running a neo2 but
this is a screeshot of my 0602's at 270 2.6v and timings are 3,4,3,6 1T 1:1.
Good luck.
no joy with them settings dude. Tried a variety of settings at 2.5v jus to kick things off cus i kno these IC's dont really like volts much. Prime at 255mhz wont even pass. These sticks have are worse at ocing from stock than any other memory iv had. including some elixir and nanya stuff which would do at least 15Mhz over stock.
Not givin up yet. but i doubt i'll get much out of them
Try setting trc to 12, for a lot of these, 7 is wildly optimistic.
i set trc to 14!! still no joy
i have got some hz 2x1gb 603................and it was total crap .max stable 3-4-4-8 and very slack alpha timings htt 255 , and it wasn't even stable in 3d..... total stable was abot 251 ...total crap
think im gonna send them back... get some ZX instead
Neo2
no tweaks, just upped the FSB
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6...5gskill5eq.gif
BF2 stable =D
more to come soon
http://i3.tinypic.com/ws8qvk.jpg
This is what I have gotten my best set of HZ up to so far. 297 32m SP stable. So far the best super prime 12 hours stable is 290. Lot of tweaking left to do and ddr600 should be possible.
Just Received my HZ kit,memtest stable at 260mhz,i need at least 270 mhz,can someone help me
260mhz is stable 3-4-4-8 tried voltage between 2.6 and 2.8
270mhz not stable 3-4-4-8 and not stable at 3-4-4-10
I dont know what else i can try
hope anyone is able to give me 270 or maybe higher
Thks
What month are they athlon? 0603 or 0604? dont expect much from 04's
Uh...what's the rest of your setup look like? Remember, some boards overclock better than others...and perhaps you burned out the memory controller on your cpu. Tony from OCZ went over this also - high vcore, and low vdimm, or high vdimm, and low vcore...any combination of those.
well HZ doesnt like voltage. And im not under any special cooling so vcore is 1.5v... normal.. vdimm i never put over 2.8. Still cant do 255 under any combo of timings iv tried
wow, those are some nice sticks you got there...... any chance they can do that on the 10 multi?Quote:
Originally Posted by cronic
So far i've only managed to get these sticks @260MHz 3448 2.6v on a divider 180. Opteron is @2.6GHz 289x9 1.5v. But i got my G.Skills to 264 once :P I've been using optimized default settings with the proper voltages and timings (3448) and it works with the 180 divider at this setting so far. Not sure which week mine are in, but i got them couple of months ago from newegg as well.
well I just got mine today. They're 0603's. Not sure if this was a good one or not. I havent really messed with it much. At 270mhz it was only 1M stable.
I can only run it at 1T too because of my stupid motherboard. I have tired using the setting mentioned in this thread but my computer locks up whenever I change somthing with A64tweaker
Hence, that's why you don't use A64 tweaker. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Amish Kid
Also, mine were a set of 0603's also, and they went up to 280 no problem at all @ 2.6v and nothing more.
Did you have to tweak yours at all? I think my motherboard just sucks, there are no options for memory in mine at all, only the really basic ones.
Seems that my HZ-Kit from 0604xxxx oc only till 260MHz :mad:
Did anybody else here have same probs with this date ?
Are you sure it would only go that high? What's the rest of your setup look like?
Amish Kid: Yes, i had to tweak it. DFI board has a bunch of dram configurations, and it went zoom zoom! Right up to 280.
Interesting read... i've got some '0604's, just memtesting them 270 isnt a prob @ 2.6v, not sure if they'll go higher because I havent pushed them... This is @ default timings (manually set in bios, no auto's...)
Now I have a question I hope one of the guru's can answer!
When I first began testing I used a lower multiplier and htt so that these wouldn't affect stability. After testing 270 I raised the multiplier and htt back up to stock cpu settings, i noticed the memory transfer speed increased by 500MB/s (was 3000ish, now 3516MB/s). So would this cause instability if it were set too high?
I was thinking this might be an additional variable that people will have to take into account when pushing their ram.
I have some HZ 602's that do 273 (CPU limit with 11x) at 3-4-3-8, 1T on my DFI Expert. I use 2.8 VDIMM. But, I am in the process of selling those since I now have the HV (3-3-2-8) sticks in place right now.
I got 0603 modules. These can do 275 MHz, Cas 3.0 4-3-5 at 2.52V, DFI nf4 Ultra-D. Now testing at 277 MHz
I have some 0603s and I can do 282MHz perfectly stable @ 2.8v. I typically run them at 275MHz 2.6v. I can do over 260MHz on 2.5v.
Erm, the reason for the big difference between 32M and P95 stable is because you're supposed to run 2 32Ms, not just one. I've always found that for me dual 32M stable = dual P95 stable....Quote:
Originally Posted by cronic
Let me kno how far you get with them 04's. Mine are 04's too and i got really poor results in comparison to the 03's listed here. On the plus side. i got my 180 divider working :DQuote:
Originally Posted by TheBlabberMan
No probs, it might be little while because I'm still waiting for an answer to my transfer speed question. I fear it is useless to test them at a higher ddr but lower transfer speed and find out that they fail when this is increased. They are 100% prime stable at 270/ddr540 3,4,4,8 2.6v which is what I'm running my x2 3800+ at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Postal Dude
I will be testing the limits of my cpu soon and when this occurs I will test to see if the ram can handle the increase. I'm suprised at your extremely poor results, have you tried lowering multiplier and htt to test the ram independently? Also testing one stick at a time?
Close but not 100%! Usually if it is dual 32MB stable it is 95% prime stable. I prime for atleast 8 hours and usually you will have to knock it back a couple of mhz's to get it 100% prime stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
I got my 0603s to boot at 290 MHz. Wasn't stable, though. Caused some BSODs.
An update to this old bugger. They work 100% in a Shuttle SN25P SFF...in case anyone might want to try.
Those are one of the best I ever see. Now show us a Prime stress sessions :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cronic
Could use some help now with these since I got a new board. Too many more values for me than before. ;)
So, G.Skill HZ for expert board please?
You're always running your memory on a divider no matter what setting you choose in the BIOS. 1:1 is still a divider. With a 9x CPU multiplier 1:1 would be using a 9x memory divider. The memory speed is calculated by a division of a number into the current CPU clock speed. If you were running 2800MHz with a 9x CPU multi and 1:1 then your RAM would be running at 311MHz. If you switch to like a 166 divider in the BIOS then your RAM divider will be 11x and your RAM speed will be 255MHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slammin
Have 0604´s cant get them stable at 277mhz (305x10) Divider 180
I get errors at 40% boot memtest
stable at 254mhz =Divider 166
Seems these 0604's aren't getting anything close to previous months. I've got a pair on order from the Egg and I'll post my results next week.
Anyone else running these on the ASRock DualSata mobo?
Well, I didnt update the thread for a long time but there are some expert settings (7 to be more specific) as well as ultra-d:Quote:
Originally Posted by Reinvented
http://www.dfi-street.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41953
To the guys getting memtest errors - make sure bios shadowing or caching is disabled in the bios. Having it enabled will give you memtest errors.
Where would you find these settings that you talk of? I have an ultra-d and dont have any option that comes close to that! Also are you talking of errors at default speeds?
Cheers
There should be a BIOS option somewhere that says "BIOS Cacheable" or something along those lines. You want to disable it.
aha! cheers, not that I was having many probs but I thought that might help me, although i found it "system cacheable" I think, it was disabled already lol
Ok now reporting back on the max mem at default timings on my "0604's"
280 3,4,4,8 anything higher and I get errors, only a few at 285 but a few too many :) I'm still running them at 270, I've found another guide that probably will help me understand all these new bios settings (my first amd rig :))
I guess the only way to see the chip specs is to void the warranty and remove the heat spreaders right?
Just got my pair 2x1GB in a few hours ago. Running default voltages and timings at DDR500 right now. SuperP 32MB stable so far. I'll report back later if I have anything more positive as I increase HTT :-)
Why would you need to do that, when we ALREADY know what it is?Quote:
Originally Posted by macaddict
Uhmmm...well I was curious as to what week I had actually.
I find SuperPI and Memtest86 rather unreliable for testing memory. Try Windows Memtest and see if you can even get to 1,000% without an error. Mine wouldn't do 265MHz+ in Windows Memtest without an error and i tried a lot of DRAM settings. It may be the memory controllers on these CCBBE Opterons though.
Actually I've noticed the same thing with my pair of 0606 that I've been testing the past week. They are pretty much stable up to 275 with just about any sort of good timings and 2.6V. I'm currently trying for a stable 280 but they fail almost instantly unless I have the Idle Cycle Limit set to 256. Also, having the MAL set to 8 instead of 7 has allowed me to stay stable so far at 280. I'm hoping to get somewhere between 285-290 out of them. These sticks are certainly impressive, especially for $179 at the Egg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Postal Dude
Hi guys i'm having sort of a problem, i have a dfi nf4 ultra-d and everytime i try to raise the clocks of my gskill above 250 my graphics card begins to vpu recover and etc. Even at 255 the memory runs sp2004 and memtest but if i start to play fear or something else the graphics card hangs. Does it have anything to do with the ram?
Mine barely do 260MHz. Bad performance as they run very loose timings. I would rather run for some some good old BH5 4x512 2T 2-2-2-5
A little help please? Someone?
0512 serial its good?:stick: :woot:
Can anyone post the OCs with DFI SLI-DR Venus and UCCCs?Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostMaster
And the settings used, thanks.
;)