DFI LanPARTY nF4 SLI-DR Venus First look!!!

I run my Ultra D at 265 and 3-3-2-6 at 2.8v. I dont think the board will make that much of a difference will it?

wait, so does the venus report proper CPU temps?

I see they left the same crappy chipset cooler on

EDIT - LOL - see someone beat me to this...

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Originally Posted by palehorse

if the Venus actually reports temperatures accurately, then I'm going to fight tooth and nail to have this funked-up Expert board RMA'd for one...

"THE board for overclockers" my arse... how can that be when it inconsistently under-reports temps by as much as 20C?!

lol.. other than that, i love my Expert.. but mannnnn this temp issue is irking the hell out of me! lol..

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theyre off on every board . if it is engineered for overclockers then some might use a 3rd party temp monitoring device

is dfi ever going to get rid of the fan?

yeah same :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty fan right there blowing tons ofhot air on the video cards.. same crappy aluminum with the same crappy thermal pad under it.

ok so let me get this straight...

"We introduce the Venus mobo where we have fixed previous issues and increased stability overall while adding 100% coverage of alum. cap's. But don't wait around to get the motherboard that we should have released a year ago. Get it now cuz its in limited quantities and probably costs $300"

ok screw that, i'm sorry DFI. i went thru 4 DFI series boards before i got one that was stable and held it's own. i mean screw that with a big capitol F U

i loved the one i finally got but it took several hundred dollars to get one that didnt fry, didnt kill 2 sets of VERY friggin expensive ram, and one that just all out was a piece of engineering crap.

keep your venice board and release it in mass quantities the way you SHOULD have released the baord a long time ago.

oh and they are only putting out a 1000 cuz after a thousand they just go to :banana::banana::banana::banana:.

this is a pre release lets go show it off to the freaks in the forums. So when they go buy it it runs like total :banana::banana::banana::banana:.

isnt it funny how the mfg reps come here showing off all this cool new hardware and when WE the consumer go out and buy it,, its just a big pile of :banana::banana::banana::banana:e. cough cough OCZ and their fantastically total :banana::banana::banana::banana: ram..
ASUS and their every popular biggest pile of crap mobo's made (funny an el cheapo Biostar Tforce 6100 baord i have is WAY more stable and overclockable than any asus i have ever owned is..)

anyways as much as i love seeing new stuff come out,, the new stuff is just OVERPRICED crap that should have been released a long time ago.. and then whent he item goes full retail... its just a pile of crap...
"oh look i got a pre release xxxxxx hardware" cool now keep it cuz you will never get a retail one that runs as good as that pre release one...

sorry....
Angry_Games, Donna, and frank have all been fantastic to work with, but when your dealing with someone who has went thru hundreds of dollars and MULTIPLE boards just to get one that works properly and stable... don't count on me buying anything from you anytime soon.

yes. im an angry old man i hate everyone and everything lol

anyways cool board but this is too little too late dfi.

AM2 is around the corner...it's crazy to roll out yet another new board this late :lol: unless it sells for $150 otherwise I wonder how many folks going to fall for this.. :D :D

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AM2 is around the corner...it's crazy to roll out yet another new board this late :lol: unless it sells for $150 otherwise I wonder how many folks going to fall for this.. :D :D

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I will :p: And I don't think it's gonna cost them too much to produce considering it's the exact same board as the expert just with different caps and maybe a couple of different ic's......

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I will :p: And I don't think it's gonna cost them too much to produce considering it's the exact same board as the expert just with different caps and maybe a couple of different ic's......

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Its far from that, there are 6 layers to this board and Oskar has told me he reworked a few for the memory etc.

If you don't like playing don't buy it, if your ultra D clocks your TCCD just fine stick with it, if you want to see what the hype is about go buy venus...simple really

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Originally Posted by Tony

Its far from that, there are 6 layers to this board and Oskar has told me he reworked a few for the memory etc.

If you don't like playing don't buy it, if your ultra D clocks your TCCD just fine stick with it, if you want to see what the hype is about go buy venus...simple really

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Ummmm....I hope you're not directing that comment at me Tony - I said I would buy it......;)

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Its far from that, there are 6 layers to this board and Oskar has told me he reworked a few for the memory etc.

If you don't like playing don't buy it, if your ultra D clocks your TCCD just fine stick with it, if you want to see what the hype is about go buy venus...simple really

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any benchs?

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Originally Posted by LoN3R

theyre off on every board . if it is engineered for overclockers then some might use a 3rd party temp monitoring device

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im sorry, but being off by more than 15C is simply not acceptable. And you may not know this, but without removing the IHS from the CPU, you cant get anywhere near the core with any type of probe to measure it effectively.

So in other words, there is no real way to know what my temps are, and THAT is unacceptable from a board supposedly built for overclocking. Nothing you tell me will convice me otherwise...

that said, i LOVE my expert board, but it's just tough to live on the edge, overclocking blindly in terms of temps... alot of $$ at stake ya know!?

and i'd gladly take this Venus board as a replacement if it fixes this problem :)

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Originally Posted by ~PI-IOENIX~

i am actually using the ultra D. Will i notice a difference with my bh-5 with the expert/venus?

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any idea?

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im sorry, but being off by more than 15C is simply not acceptable. And you may not know this, but without removing the IHS from the CPU, you cant get anywhere near the core with any type of probe to measure it effectively.

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in case you haven't noticed, it doesn't seem that the normal dfi's report proper temps.. at least not with my opteron.
here's why i think this:
1.4v, 2ghz -> 30c idle, 35c load
1.56v, 3ghz -> 31-32c idle, 37-38c load

so a 11.4% increase in voltage and 50% increase in speed is only getting me 2-3c warmer? right board, i have total faith in you :fact:

to a technical explaination of what i think is going on, think back to sensors 101, or an equivilent course if you ever took it.
the temperature is found by putting a voltage across a resistor, who's resistance changes a bunch more than usual with temperature. the voltage drop across or current through the resistor is measured and converted into a temperature.
now.. at 1.4v, my temps seem normal, but at 1.56v, they don't. what appears to be happening is that the sensor simply isn't calibrating for the higher than stock vcore properly, assuming that vcore is the voltage fed through that thermal resistor. if not, i'll shut up now ;)

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AM2 is around the corner...it's crazy to roll out yet another new board this late :lol: unless it sells for $150 otherwise I wonder how many folks going to fall for this.. :D :D

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With the latest AMD and nVidia snags, you are looking at a working M2 system (mobo with a proper chipset + actually the proper cpu for that socket) at June/July earliest.

Probably really working motherboards with proper revisions and working chipsets at late August?

It's all a gamble at this point.

And nobody knows what the upside will be? The first mobos might actually perform worse, untill DFI comes out with their M2 based mobos.

Also, six months in this hobby is a long time.

first Q 07 is probably the right time to go AM2 with first revisions.....i reckon this time round i'll be starting from second gen at least

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first Q 07 is probably the right time to go AM2 with first revisions.....i reckon this time round i'll be starting from second gen at least

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LOL fark that who can wait that long for new hardware/technology? Not me thats for sure :)

I'm always down for trying new stuff...just as long as it doesn't burn a hole in my pocket.

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Originally Posted by palehorse

im sorry, but being off by more than 15C is simply not acceptable.

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There aren't any boards that report accurate CPU temps. All they do is supply a point of reference. The whole point of having CPU temp reporting is to see idle/load variations. Temperature points are all relative. Folks complain about temps from all the manufacturers... Abit, Asus, DFI, MSI, yada, yada, yada. Reminds me of the IC7-G temp reporting hysteria a few years back..lol. That never stopped any serious clockers. Niether does the DFI "temp reporting issue". If it makes you feel better, just add 15c to every number you see. Ta-da all fixed:) No offense, but its no big deal.


Anyway, after talking to my DFI source, I may indeed try this board. Sounds like a very niche overclockers board. 6 layer yumminess!!

Temps off? so what i had an IC-7 maxIII and it was off an,A7N8x temps off. It doesnt matter because you can always find a way to get your temps or as close to what they are as you can and then settle on your own interpretation. This one would be interesting to try out.

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There aren't any boards that report accurate CPU temps. All they do is supply a point of reference. The whole point of having CPU temp reporting is to see idle/load variations. Temperature points are all relative. Folks complain about temps from all the manufacturers... Abit, Asus, DFI, MSI, yada, yada, yada. Reminds me of the IC7-G temp reporting hysteria a few years back..lol. That never stopped any serious clockers. Niether does the DFI "temp reporting issue". If it makes you feel better, just add 15c to every number you see. Ta-da all fixed:) No offense, but its no big deal.

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Couldn't have said it better myself :clap:

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Originally Posted by mdzcpa

There aren't any boards that report accurate CPU temps. All they do is supply a point of reference. The whole point of having CPU temp reporting is to see idle/load variations. Temperature points are all relative. Folks complain about temps from all the manufacturers... Abit, Asus, DFI, MSI, yada, yada, yada. Reminds me of the IC7-G temp reporting hysteria a few years back..lol. That never stopped any serious clockers. Niether does the DFI "temp reporting issue". If it makes you feel better, just add 15c to every number you see. Ta-da all fixed:) No offense, but its no big deal.


Anyway, after talking to my DFI source, I may indeed try this board. Sounds like a very niche overclockers board. 6 layer yumminess!!

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meh not when temps are out by 20C.....there are temp variation up to 3C or whatever but this is outrageously out...................it is an issue.....Abit had an issue like this and they fixed their :banana::banana::banana::banana: first before any other requests....because there was more ppl wanting that fixed than anything else.......i haven't had issues with an Ultra-D and SLI-D in terms of temps.....but i do with Expert and i want it fixed

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windwithme : have you send me the board yet? :p:

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:D Nope - impossible cause just arrived here.............;) ;) ;)

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:D Nope - impossible cause just arrived here.............;) ;) ;)

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bummer...then he got wrong shiping adress :fact: , i realy need a board that take my bh5 higher :)

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bummer...then he got wrong shiping adress :fact: , i realy need a board that take my bh5 higher :)

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You are terrible with ram, why do you need another board? :hehe:

This is the OC competition by DFI own

Ultra-D/SLI-DR created the TCCD top limitation

EXPERT improved the PCI-E gaps, over 3.3V with non-segment, re-positioned DRAM slots, Winbond UTT become better but lost some compatibility with TCCD.

Venus inherit EXPERT all advantages and plus 100% aluminum capacitors, improved TCCD compatibility (a little bit weaker than Ultra-D)
Enhance 4DIMM OC ability dramatically and make 2GB OC become better.

Nowadays, 2GB is the mainstream. Venus’s advantages are much bigger than weakness.

One more my own final test - 2GB HZ DDR610 3 4-4-8

http://img8.picsplace.to/img8/9/610.jpg


Ultra-D honor is still there. Before AM2 coming, Venus carry on the honor.
Venus is still the most omni-bearing OC board.
As the high end strategy, special package, 100% aluminum and limited q’ty
I hope DFI can have Venus non-aluminum version in lower price to make more user can own this K8 OC legend.

when, when, when? :p: :stick:

Once again, the only question of importance....

Is the Vtt problem FIXED? yes or no.

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This is the OC competition by DFI own

Ultra-D/SLI-DR created the TCCD top limitation

EXPERT improved the PCI-E gaps, over 3.3V with non-segment, re-positioned DRAM slots, Winbond UTT become better but lost some compatibility with TCCD.

Venus inherit EXPERT all advantages and plus 100% aluminum capacitors, improved TCCD compatibility (a little bit weaker than Ultra-D)
Enhance 4DIMM OC ability dramatically and make 2GB OC become better.

Nowadays, 2GB is the mainstream. Venus’s advantages are much bigger than weakness.

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Well if it is such a larger improvement in the areas you state, why is it only going to be a small limited edition run than?

Doesnt it make more sense to take this New and Improved For All Of These Reasons Board and make it into retail box updated versions to supercede the current Expert?

I mean, i love my DFI boards, but this is just getting ridiculous with the updates that will cost you some serious cash and no even include a jar of vaseline!

looks very much like an end of line product to me.
Which of course it is :)

Another good Oc'ing product from DFI :)

Although S939 is a dead technology, so to speak, it doesnt mean that people will all of a sudden stop buying the hardware needed for it.

I agree, why not release it is a newer revision Expert versus such a limited release. Or at the least dont release in such limited numbers.

in taiwan is already on sale now

:eek: :slobber: i hope they spread them out a little

The Taiwanese branch of DFI has them already online on their website.

i think they are on all of the dfi regional sites
http://us.dfi.com.tw/Product/xx_prod...YPE=LP&SITE=US

[edit] hehe, anybody feel like sending me one? :P
i think it's going to be a little while before they even reach these shores

3 BIG Questions.

1. When is the release date, or expected ETA?

2. How little of a supply is intended, basically will you have to bend over backwards to get one?

3. How much money (speculation)?

In some countries you can buy these now
there will be 1000 of these made - limited edition
I've been told by one retailer in the U.K that they will have these boards at the beginning of March for approx £220 inc VAT

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In some countries you can buy these now
there will be 1000 of these made - limited edition
I've been told by one retailer in the U.K that they will have these boards at the beginning of March for approx £220 inc VAT

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Any ideas if there are any in the US yet?

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Originally Posted by Pyr0

In some countries you can buy these now
there will be 1000 of these made - limited edition
I've been told by one retailer in the U.K that they will have these boards at the beginning of March for approx £220 inc VAT

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Thanks for the reply. I am really interested in purchasing one. Can i ask from which retailer you acquired this information, Komplett, OcUK etc? As i will be looking to order ASAP, or pre-order ASAP.

Thanks :)

I should be getting one in Aus next week that'll be for sale

Graham.......look like you've got no choice now but to go DFI :D

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Originally Posted by RichUK

Can i ask from which retailer you acquired this information, Komplett, OcUK etc?

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http://www.cpucityshop.co.uk/forums/...pid=20858&st=0

:)

Funny how we are calling K8/939 dead technology, when the average computer user is running on a machine that makes a 754 rig seem like a super computer.

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yes. im an angry old man i hate everyone and everything lol

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So tempted to quote this in my sig. :D

It would have been nice if the Venus had come out last year. Now I'm saving for the next gen AMD CPUs and mobos, DDR2, video cards and the IRS so this mobo isn't going to make the cut. The Venus should provide a lot of entertaining threads when it comes out though. Looking forward to it falling into the hands of some of the memory masters around here. :)

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Originally Posted by RichUK

Thanks for the reply. I am really interested in purchasing one. Can i ask from which retailer you acquired this information, Komplett, OcUK etc? As i will be looking to order ASAP, or pre-order ASAP.

Thanks :)

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http://www.cpucityshop.co.uk/forums/...pid=20858&st=0

:)

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:up: that's the one ;)
if you contact the shop, they can arrange a pre order for you :D

i had to order the standard sli-dr, give them my order number and they changed it to a venus board, changed the price and updated the status to back ordered :toast:

[edit] CPUCity now has the Venus boards listed on their website for pre-ordering :up:
http://www.cpucityshop.co.uk/product...oducts_id=2627
£219.67 inc VAT

And over here in America, we still await word for this board...

its available in germany now but for 300euro. a expert costs 180....

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its available in germany now but for 300euro. a expert costs 180....

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Its $440AU here and available now :eek:

talked to someone in DFI they siad DFi USA office doesn't really want to import this mobo....

I bet that I will not be available to Canada.. :(

But oh well I doesn't care this thing seems like a big money gimmick.

here @ 309€

well...i can order :)

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if i had the money ;)

stock into Aus today or tomorrow. only a handful

:eek: Hm - someone should take the board and nail it in front of DFI pricemanager's head.................:stick:

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really expensive for only a couple of months before a new upgrade

I've got three confirmed, can possibly get more :D

I really don't think the price is the issue with this board. That's not really the point is it ...?

The board better serve me breakfast in the morning

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The board better serve me breakfast in the morning

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talked to someone in DFI they siad DFi USA office doesn't really want to import this mobo....

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Well isn't that special. :rolleyes:

I heard the board will be available from US etailers like zzf and ewiz in 6-8 weeks.

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I heard the board will be available from US etailers like zzf and ewiz in 6-8 weeks.

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don't you think that by 6-8 weeks they will long since be sold out of the total supply?

Good point but I didn't think to ask. I got the info from a DFI rep named Ming-Huey Jeng. He got right back to me after I emailed him so you'll probably get a quick response to any questions you have. His email is.......................

I can pre order a board for 2795,- Norwegian Kroner.

Hmmm, do I want it? :D

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Good point but I didn't think to ask. I got the info from a DFI rep named Ming-Huey Jeng. He got right back to me after I emailed him so you'll probably get a quick response to any questions you have. His email is.......................

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Don't put the guy's email on forums, he's gonna get spammed by every bot on the net.

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Don't put the guy's email on forums, he's gonna get spammed by every bot on the net.

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Oops. :eek: His email's on the dfi website anyway but I sure hope he doesn't get spammed. Ming seems like a nice guy.

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Oops. :eek: His email's on the dfi website anyway but I sure hope he doesn't get spammed. Ming seems like a nice guy.

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Go edit your post then. ;)

I hope he doesn't get spammed though.

I did e-mail him about the quantity sold in America. He said he doesn't know. :(

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Well if it is such a larger improvement in the areas you state, why is it only going to be a small limited edition run than?

Doesnt it make more sense to take this New and Improved For All Of These Reasons Board and make it into retail box updated versions to supercede the current Expert?

I mean, i love my DFI boards, but this is just getting ridiculous with the updates that will cost you some serious cash and no even include a jar of vaseline!

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AM2, we wont be seeing many new boards for existing s939 now...

hmm... using aluminium caps instead of standard ones will cost them like 5 cents more per cap MAX. even though it may be the best s939 board ever made at this moment, I cannot justify the 300 euro price tag

315€????
http://www.hpm-computer.de/assets/s2...m-computer.de/
a joke?

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Originally Posted by Dragoran

315€????
http://www.hpm-computer.de/assets/s2...m-computer.de/
a joke?

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DFI LANparty nF4
SLI-DR Venus 25th
Sockel 939. Crossfire, PCIe,
Limitierte Auflage (1.000)
315,90 EUR*

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Hi Guys

As Far as I know the Venus 'll be available from 17th (This Friday)
The price 'll be around 240-255 euros + Vat...:)

its up for pre-order in the UK for £187 + VAT :S

http://www.cpucityshop.co.uk/product...d48598aa27b979

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its up for pre-order in the UK for £187 + VAT :S

http://www.cpucityshop.co.uk/product...d48598aa27b979

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:lastweek:
:p: i posted that a couple of days ago in this thread, lol
that's where i pre-ordered mine :up:

I guess the usa is out of luck on this one? Quite frankly the idea of the AM2 platform upgrade is going to be a pretty expensive upgrade, needing new cpu, MB, ram, heatsink/cooling block type, etc, so maybe the venus is not such a bad idea at this time.

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:lastweek:
:p: i posted that a couple of days ago in this thread, lol
that's where i pre-ordered mine :up:

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Yup and thanks to Pyr0 and the link he gave me. I have now pre-ordered mine. I hope they have enough not to cancel my order due to supply and demand issues. aka not enough for me.

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I guess the usa is out of luck on this one? Quite frankly the idea of the AM2 platform upgrade is going to be a pretty expensive upgrade, needing new cpu, MB, ram, heatsink/cooling block type, etc, so maybe the venus is not such a bad idea at this time.

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My thoughts exactly. Hence why i pre-ordered the Venus. Also not to mention AM2 is going to be an immature platform with loads issues (maybe), but either way it will cost you a lot of money to upgrade and find out.

I would much rather wait for 65nm AMD’s. Rather than by AM2 re-hash processors that run with DDR2.

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My thoughts exactly. Hence why i pre-ordered the Venus. Also not to mention AM2 is going to be an immature platform with loads issues (maybe), but either way it will cost you a lot of money to upgrade and find out.

I would much rather wait for 65nm AMD’s. Rather than by AM2 re-hash processors that run with DDR2.

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Venus is my plan to hold me off until AM2 has matured a bit. So yea, I'm in the same boat as you mate. I know I've secured mine, the rest of you just need to do some digging.

Bah, spending more $$ to take baby steps to upgrade to another mobo and not see any real improvements over what I have already is a waste imho :rolleyes:

I'll wait till either:

A) AM2 is ripe for the picking or
B ) Stick with the eXpert and my 875P and run em till they die.



Tho I must admit the Venus looks very promising, doesn't blow enough air under my skirt to justify buying one when my eXpert runs like a bat out of hell :cool:

Well, damned if they do, damned if they don't, but this press release by DFI is surely a sign of times:

"Due to some problems we encountered with regard to the LANParty UT NF4 SLI Venus edition gift box, w e'd like to announce that we will not be able to make the delivery on time. The quality of the box didn't meet our standard therefore we have returned them back to the manufacturer and requested for an immediate replacement. DFI only wants the best for our customers and truly believe in offering only good quality products. Please accept our apology for this delay and thank you for understanding."

Are they trying to establish some relationship between card boxes quality and mobos quality, when they say "The quality of the box didn't meet our standard"...."DFI only wants the best for our customers and truly believe in offering only good quality products"?
Who cares about the box?
Shouldn't their main concern be about mobos quality and not boxes quality?

Wasn't the box supposed to be mahogany or something?

i like that yes...

I dont give a rats arse about any facking box, all I want, along with thousands of other eXpert users is a bios that reports even close to correct temps :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :(

Source for the press release...

http://us.dfi.com.tw/press/press_hea...08.jsp&SITE=US

This damn box had better be sh1t hot if they're gonna be holding back the mobo's release for this :D

doh!
that's just pathetic :(

Omfg !

Where the heck is it in USA???

<-- awaits

Maybe the box couldn't hold up in shipping. Better to have a delay than a crushed Venus, but who knows?

There better be a damn DFI T-Shirt in my box for making me wait this long :exclaim:

It was clear already judging by the pics in this thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ighlight=venus that the box was the crappiest thing one can imagine and definitely not something you wan't to see reaching your end users, especialy with a supposedly top of the crop product ment to celebrate the brand's 25th year in the business.

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Well, damned if they do, damned if they don't, but this press release by DFI is surely a sign of times:

"Due to some problems we encountered with regard to the LANParty UT NF4 SLI Venus edition gift box, w e'd like to announce that we will not be able to make the delivery on time. The quality of the box didn't meet our standard therefore we have returned them back to the manufacturer and requested for an immediate replacement. DFI only wants the best for our customers and truly believe in offering only good quality products. Please accept our apology for this delay and thank you for understanding."

Are they trying to establish some relationship between card boxes quality and mobos quality, when they say "The quality of the box didn't meet our standard"...."DFI only wants the best for our customers and truly believe in offering only good quality products"?

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This has got to be a joke right? If not, it is just plain disturbing. :rolleyes: Seriously, if anyone on this forum honestly cares about the box, i think they should be banned for life. Throw the dam thing in a cardboard unmarked container and ship it already. Does anyone spend more than 3 seconds looking at the box? sheesh . . . I can see the slogan now, "We here at DFI can't seem to make the motherboard right, so we guarantee we will perfect the box" :rolleyes:

as long as it gets to me working and in one piece, they could ship it in a plain brown cardboard box for all i care :rolleyes:

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I dont give a rats arse about any facking box, all I want, along with thousands of other eXpert users is a bios that reports even close to correct temps :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :(

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You got that right.:hehe: They´re launching new boards after every couple of months but how about some proper bios.:)

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This has got to be a joke right? If not, it is just plain disturbing. :rolleyes: Seriously, if anyone on this forum honestly cares about the box, i think they should be banned for life. Throw the dam thing in a cardboard unmarked container and ship it already. Does anyone spend more than 3 seconds looking at the box? sheesh . . . I can see the slogan now, "We here at DFI can't seem to make the motherboard right, so we guarantee we will perfect the box" :rolleyes:

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IMHO, it's not about the box, it's about having a simple thing done right.

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IMHO, it's not about the box, it's about having a simple thing done right.

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FYI,
we'll never know the "TRUE" reason for the delay;)

I don't want to get anyone in trouble or overstep my bounds here, I'm just adding information to the thread. I know that dave over at flickerdown will be receiving some of these boards when they do ship. probably a bit eaiser to get one over there than from a largish retailer who may only have a few.
again this isn't meant as a plug, but informative.

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Originally Posted by LowRun

IMHO, it's not about the box, it's about having a simple thing done right.

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Yer right, just like the eXpert bios problems :rolleyes: :fact:

Wow so whats the DFI required power supply for this board ..... why dont they tell us this time upfront? .... never heard of 480 watt 24 pin requirement for my ultra D. When RMA time came around .... they chose to post this little requirement up and not honor RMA's for boards that they deemed to not have ran with 480 watt 24 pin PSU's.

Download the manual for Venus from DFI!

Maybe they want it so perfect so you can bury the board and the other bits it's killed everyone likes a nice coffin :-))

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Originally Posted by mrtell

Download the manual for Venus from DFI!

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Nothing really changed from expert manual besides "Venus";)