x1900xt scored 9004 marks stock, 9688 overclocked

Printable View

Show 100 post(s) from this thread on one page

01-22-2006, 06:44 PM
Geforce4ti4200

I will wait untill guys like you buy one to test. I am waiting for scores from the likes of members from XS. Any scores pre-nda can not be verified and in fact arent allowed due to NDA.
01-22-2006, 06:48 PM
sabrewolf732

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200

sad that your x1800xt PE is faster than the x1900xt! Clocks of the x1900xt is 650/1550 I think. Although I expect the x1900xt to overclock to where your x1800xt does.

"your math skills are lacking, a 100% increase in pipes would be 48 pipes."

I think I was comparing x1900xt vs. 7900gtx :p:

".. but i don't understand how peoples can post bench of the X1900XT with score lower of a X1800XT PE bios.. If they will give bad score.. they should look what's the score of a x1800... how can be this under
10k.. when a x1800xt is better of that.."

The clocks of the x1900xt are lower than the x1800xt PE

"This guy is a moron. I score over 10,000 in 3dmark05 with an X1800XT, the X1900XT will be much faster than 9000..."

This remains to be seen. I will refrain from predictions, I am only going by facts and figures, not speculation. The fact is he got 9000 marks. Is this a good score or not? Untill more people test it, we dont know.

GEFORCE, Can you read?

Quote:

qft lol. But seriously this guy's card wasn't clocked how it was supposed to be. right now he's at 600/700 and breaking 11.2k, that's lower than stock people. stock is 625/725 so 11.5k should be cake with his 3GHz opty. Which is exactly what hexus predicted. 11.5K stock so gf4 basically FUBARED his thread title, it should be 11.2K at less than stock XD

His x1900xt WAS NOT AT THE RIGHT CLOCKS (he was at 500/600 when he got the 9k, he should be 625/725), even at less then the stock clocks he now gets 11.2K what is there to not understand? God damn you're dense
01-22-2006, 06:50 PM
Geforce4ti4200

I have not seen him say anywhere what clocks he was, only that he said his 9k was stock. I am not going to argue. I will wait and see in a few more days what people on xtreme systems can do with x1900xt's
01-22-2006, 06:51 PM
sabrewolf732

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200

I have not seen him say anywhere what clocks he was, only that he said his 9k was stock. I am not going to argue. I will wait and see in a few more days what people on xtreme systems can do with x1900xt's

DUDE GO READ HIS THREAD ON HARD. this thread should be locked, you're spreading fud. :nono:

http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=100

:rolleyes:

http://www.supload.com/free/x1900.jpg/view/
01-22-2006, 07:10 PM
Rattle

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabrewolf732

DUDE GO READ HIS THREAD ON HARD. this thread should be locked, you're spreading fud. :nono:

http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=100

:rolleyes:

http://www.supload.com/free/x1900.jpg/view/

agreed
01-22-2006, 07:56 PM
sabrewolf732

with his clocks at 600/700 he got pretty impressive fear results. All on max, 4x AA 16x AF

http://www.supload.com/free/16x12-softoff.jpg/view/
01-22-2006, 09:03 PM
Shadowmage

As a FYI, those scores are about the same as 7800GTX 512MB SLI scores in FEAR :D
01-22-2006, 09:08 PM
ManicOne

Its a pity we can't instigate forum rules against stupidity.
01-22-2006, 09:30 PM
bldegle2

impressive when the core and memory are clocked to the proper frequency, it is plain as day.

come on GeForce, even you have to admit you jumped the gun a bit, the whole premise of your thread (Meh not impressive! ATI's x1900xt was a few months late and can only match the 7800gtx!) is based on poor investigation and running with an erroneous bench, maybe a small retraction with an apology is in order..........

baldy
01-22-2006, 10:27 PM
sabrewolf732

Quote:

Originally Posted by bldegle2

impressive when the core and memory are clocked to the proper frequency, it is plain as day.

come on GeForce, even you have to admit you jumped the gun a bit, the whole premise of your thread (Meh not impressive! ATI's x1900xt was a few months late and can only match the 7800gtx!) is based on poor investigation and running with an erroneous bench, maybe a small retraction with an apology is in order..........

baldy

Qft. I think he put it the best.

Quote:

As a FYI, those scores are about the same as 7800GTX 512MB SLI scores in FEAR

and those scores still aren't at stock clocks :eek: Still 25MHz slower core/50MHz slower mem :eek: Gforce 4, I retract all my mean statements. But come on, you got to admit this thread was crappy. In fear the x1900xt is beating 2x 7800gtx 512's in sli. You have to admit that is impressive as hell, not even the 7900 will beat it if all the 7900 is 33% more pipes and 33% more clocks.
01-22-2006, 10:34 PM
`SippY

so wait the x1900xt declocked is beating 2 x 512gtx's, not the reg clcoked x1900xt or even the xtx!? wow the xtx is gonna rip
01-22-2006, 10:51 PM
sabrewolf732

Quote:

Originally Posted by `SippY

so wait the x1900xt declocked is beating 2 x 512gtx's, not the reg clcoked x1900xt or even the xtx!? wow the xtx is gonna rip

In fear.
01-22-2006, 11:01 PM
`SippY

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabrewolf732

In fear.

yea thats what i meant
01-22-2006, 11:43 PM
Flox

Quote:

Originally Posted by `SippY

so wait the x1900xt declocked is beating 2 x 512gtx's, not the reg clcoked x1900xt or even the xtx!? wow the xtx is gonna rip

But still minimum framerates below 30fps... :rolleyes: ...and that´s not getting better when enabling softshadows.

Any CF-results would be nice.

Greetz, Flox
01-22-2006, 11:51 PM
RAMMAN

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabrewolf732

if all the 7900 is 33% more pipes and 33% more clocks.

i think the 33% more clocks will make a bigger difference than the 33% more pipes, with the only exception being in 3dmark06.
01-22-2006, 11:58 PM
sabrewolf732

Quote:

Originally Posted by RAMMAN

i think the 33% more clocks will make a bigger difference than the 33% more pipes, with the only exception being in 3dmark06.

:nono: That's not how performance increases work. If the pipelines and pipes are increased to a factor of 33%, that does not gaurantee 33% more performance. It will almost gauranteed be less than 33%. It cannot be more
01-22-2006, 11:58 PM
sabrewolf732

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flox

But still minimum framerates below 30fps... :rolleyes: ...and that´s not getting better when enabling softshadows.

Any CF-results would be nice.

Greetz, Flox

26fps min still ain't nowhere near bad, especially 1600x1200 4x AA and 16x af, in fear, on a single card. That's damn close to amazing.
01-22-2006, 11:59 PM
zakelwe

It'll be interesting to see if a refresh part that mainly just ups the potential shading performance by 3 works across the majority of todays games. I guess it's Ati's way of saying out with the old and in with the new, rather than the traditional approach of nvidia's of adding a little bit extra of everything. Mind you even nvidia are saving on the ROPS.

Dave Baumann at B3D tested a x3ALU X1600XT using the same architecture and that came out very well indeed, even in UT2004 which is an "older" generation game

Maybe we should be thinking ahead to the Vista "DX10" WGF or whatever it is called graphics card generation ( G80 and R620 ? ) rather than worrying too much about these refresh parts. I think my trusty 6800GS Sli will last me out till then.

Regards

Andy
01-23-2006, 12:11 AM
Newbie_User

Embarrassing....at the most

Well well....
So, as predicted or foreseen, Benching utilities will be soon out of use.....

X1900XT is a monster, when tested in "Heavy" games...:)
That's good news....:)

Another fact, ATI seems to have a better SM 3.0 implementation than Nvidia on 7XXX series.......

Have a question :
Would x64 games will be improved with the X64 architecture ??
Have tested far Cry on ATI on Windows64 and it's amazingly beautiful...:)
It rocks....!

Have those new cards been created to fit the new x64 architecture??
R580 series and G71...
Or will it simply be 64 bits drivers??

Better yet, if ATI's better with "heavy" games, with the extra load of graphics and detail...in x64 games....
ithink ATI will be ahead......:confused:
Hope for it....:D
01-23-2006, 12:27 AM
Flox

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabrewolf732

26fps min still ain't nowhere near bad, especially 1600x1200 4x AA and 16x af, in fear, on a single card. That's damn close to amazing.

Sure, but IMHO such a card implies playing at max settings using ALL features.

Dropping below 30fps (and this is for sure during intensive combat scenes where you need smooth gameplay) is not the way it´s meant to be played... ;)

I don´t blame anyone for that, it´s just a pity not to be able to use the full potential of my 24"-TFT with the newest of the new cards...but perhaps with 2 of them?? ;)

Greetz, Flox
01-23-2006, 12:54 AM
`SippY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flox

Sure, but IMHO such a card implies playing at max settings using ALL features.

Dropping below 30fps (and this is for sure during intensive combat scenes where you need smooth gameplay) is not the way it´s meant to be played... ;)

I don´t blame anyone for that, it´s just a pity not to be able to use the full potential of my 24"-TFT with the newest of the new cards...but perhaps with 2 of them?? ;)

Greetz, Flox

no its a pitty these great cards are being taken advantage of by these companys releasing :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty coded games,like cod2, fear...
01-23-2006, 12:56 AM
sabrewolf732

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flox

Sure, but IMHO such a card implies playing at max settings using ALL features.

Dropping below 30fps (and this is for sure during intensive combat scenes where you need smooth gameplay) is not the way it´s meant to be played... ;)

I don´t blame anyone for that, it´s just a pity not to be able to use the full potential of my 24"-TFT with the newest of the new cards...but perhaps with 2 of them?? ;)

Greetz, Flox

2 x1900xt's will rape fear.
01-23-2006, 12:59 AM
sabrewolf732

http://www.supload.com/free/19x14-softoff.jpg/view/

there's 1900x1400 or whatever the hell it is lol, thats with 4x aa and 16x af too, all settings maxxed. Do you even need aa at that high a res? Maybe 2x at most. Im thinkin 2x 1900xt's will make that playable with 35fps min
01-23-2006, 01:13 AM
TMM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newbie_User

Another fact, ATI seems to have a better SM 3.0 implementation than Nvidia on 7XXX series.......

O RLY? I hope you remember Atis fabulous SM3.0 on the X1800. It can't even complete all the tests in 3dmark06. Its not compatible with "Shader Particles (SM 3.0)".

GG Ati
01-23-2006, 01:18 AM
Flox

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabrewolf732

there's 1900x1400 or whatever the hell it is lol, thats with 4x aa and 16x af too, all settings maxxed. Do you even need aa at that high a res?

I´m playing at 1920x1200 on a 24"-display...and if you ever did that, you´ll never want to miss it again! :p:

Even at this resolution, 4x AA is a nice to have. Sure you can play without, but it´s quite a difference. Same with filtering...blurry textures don´t look good on high res either...

Greetz, Flox
01-23-2006, 01:23 AM
sabrewolf732

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flox

I´m playing at 1920x1200 on a 24"-display...and if you ever did that, you´ll never want to miss it again! :p:

Even at this resolution, 4x AA is a nice to have. Sure you can play without, but it´s quite a difference. Same with filtering...blurry textures don´t look good on high res either...

Greetz, Flox

so then duallie x1900xt's look to be your cards :toast:
01-23-2006, 01:42 AM
Manoj

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabrewolf732

In fear.

Don't tell me that now many guys are going to play FEAR again just to feel good about buying the X1900XT?
01-23-2006, 02:08 AM
Newbie_User

Furthermore....:)

Shader Model 3.0 allows programmers to write more complex programs.
Make it easier to trace uplinks and downlinks...
The pixels needed to run the app are pre-detected, so you have a speed gain....
It's a little like CPU's cache principe.

However, Nvidia's pixel pipes use 1024 pixels lot to run.
The brute power is enormous, but misused, caus' you have to write a very proper code to gain from that architecture, which is not always the case :( ;)

ATI's implementation is much more efficient :)
3dmark'06 is a heck of a test.....no that good, not that bad...:p:

first, ring-organised memory controller...flexible at the most...
SM 3.0 in pixel pipes are treated 4 by 4, which is far more efficient that "brutal" Nvidia implementation....
In fact, ATI's card are able to manage floating point textures in 16 Bit mode....which would allow awesome lightning effects.....not that used at this time...but we'll see it for sure...:)

Remenber that you can add AA with HDR...on X18.. series....
Of course, playnig @ more than 1900...you won't need AA...:)
01-23-2006, 02:37 AM
sabrewolf732

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manoj

Don't tell me that now many guys are going to play FEAR again just to feel good about buying the X1900XT?

:rolleyes: Future games are going to be more shader dependant. Fear is a good indication. It's not coded badly, just was ahead of it's time.
01-23-2006, 03:52 AM
Manoj

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabrewolf732

:rolleyes: Future games are going to be more shader dependant. Fear is a good indication. It's not coded badly, just was ahead of it's time.

Don't you think that by the time future games release to take advantage of those features, newer cards are going to release?

Which game is going to be released soon that will make X1900XT a must buy right away?
01-23-2006, 10:30 AM
sabrewolf732

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manoj

Don't you think that by the time future games release to take advantage of those features, newer cards are going to release?

Which game is going to be released soon that will make X1900XT a must buy right away?

COD2 is also very shader dependent, newer games come out all the time. Not to mention ut07 which is coming out soon :banana:
01-23-2006, 10:57 AM
softpain

Oblivion and UT2K7 are coming soon.

It's not a must buy for many of us but....

I have a friend who will spend many months on and off (6+) in those 2 games in the next 2 years so for her it's worth to have the best!
01-23-2006, 11:28 AM
flisko

Get today x1900xtx and get 11982 3d05 on stock.Ram is 1.1 on this card.Not find any overclock utility yet.Atitool not work at me.
01-23-2006, 11:30 AM
sabrewolf732

Quote:

Originally Posted by flisko

Get today x1900xtx and get 11982 3d05 on stock.Ram is 1.1 on this card.Not find any overclock utility yet.Atitool not work at me.

god damn, 11982 on stock?? :eek: :woot:
01-23-2006, 11:32 AM
Winterwind

phuck that 12k @ def...
1.1ns GDDR3 sure owns:woot:
01-23-2006, 11:44 AM
flisko

im trying too upload image,but imageshat not work now.Later i put pictures up.
01-23-2006, 11:44 AM
zbogorgon

flisko, which driver and at which CPU speed?
01-23-2006, 11:53 AM
flisko

Driver came in box on cd,cpu is opteron on 2700 270*10. http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?i...31905061ak.jpg
http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?i...31826564zd.jpg look at this beauty.
01-23-2006, 12:24 PM
sabrewolf732

have a link to the score or a prnt screen of it? :banana:
01-23-2006, 12:26 PM
Jort

mhh that 3000 more then 9K:D

looks someone MISCAlculated:p:
01-23-2006, 12:53 PM
flisko

5147 on 06 ,video default,proc on 2700
01-23-2006, 12:55 PM
mrlobber

:owned: :slobber:
01-23-2006, 01:04 PM
Athens[2004]

nice @default sCores :banana:
01-23-2006, 01:14 PM
flisko

And here is picture http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3d060uc.jpg
01-23-2006, 01:33 PM
ewitte

Quote:

Originally Posted by flisko

And here is picture http://img462.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3d060uc.jpg

The CPU score is killing you. I get more than you in 2k6 but less in 2k5 (11354 max so far).

Eric
01-23-2006, 01:38 PM
flisko

im not overclockin cpu,my cpu go to 3200 on cold air,this mean too be more close too defaults.
01-23-2006, 01:44 PM
perkam

flisko, YGPM :)

Perkam
01-23-2006, 01:49 PM
Kashelz

Damn... this card looks awsome :banana:

Really CPU is killing you in 3DMark06 score :slap:
01-23-2006, 01:52 PM
Grave

Great score man. Sure this card looks awesome. I can't wait to see some reviews with proper drivers.
01-23-2006, 02:02 PM
perkam

Lets look beyond this thread to the real thing gentlemen: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=87349

Perkam
01-23-2006, 02:03 PM
AlteraOmnes

Quote:

Originally Posted by flisko

im not overclockin cpu,my cpu go to 3200 on cold air,this mean too be more close too defaults.

Isn't your CPU score too low?
01-23-2006, 02:32 PM
ewitte

Quote:

Originally Posted by flisko

im not overclockin cpu,my cpu go to 3200 on cold air,this mean too be more close too defaults.

Your not going to be able to do much about it as its a single core.

Eric
01-23-2006, 02:43 PM
bldegle2

"mhh that 3000 more then 9K

looks someone MISCAlculated"

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

speaking of which, wonder why he hasn't returned? he could earn some major brownie points if he came back with a little of THIS..................

hey, guys, i have to apologise, it definately looks like i jumped the gun on the first post and linkie, it is plainly apparent that the card does score quite a bit better and really does kick some major buttcheeks.............

nah, i'm dreamin', someone wake me up........

baldy
01-23-2006, 08:08 PM
sabrewolf732

Quote:

Originally Posted by bldegle2

nah, i'm dreamin', someone wake me up........

baldy

:slap:

Show 100 post(s) from this thread on one page

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:23 AM.

XtremeSystems