Cheers Pete@X, are you happy with the service? Someone here at XS says they open the boxes, pre-test, then put them back in the boxes. This would mean tht those not-pretested would be poor performersQuote:
Originally Posted by Pete@X
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Cheers Pete@X, are you happy with the service? Someone here at XS says they open the boxes, pre-test, then put them back in the boxes. This would mean tht those not-pretested would be poor performersQuote:
Originally Posted by Pete@X
Some great results make me wonder if I ought to pop the lid of my 170???
regards,
Matt
Well they only send to Denmark, the search goes on......Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
Hiya ...Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
yapp ... happy with them and no Probs whatsoever. Don`t believe these rumours you´hear/see floating around. You can be sure that an E-Tailer can not do that without risking the business - and have you seen proof of that ? I guess not ... :toast:
Anyway ... my 170 is primeing @10x305 right now (at least I hope that ... just started the run before i left for work :D ) ...
cya
Great result pete@X, that may be highest clocking Dual Opty on the Orb!
I have got the same stepping but on the 165 model, it is almost topped out
at 2800MHz, IHS popped and it takes 1.64V to clock that high.
Good luck!
@ Pete : What vcore? :toast:
Hi ...Quote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
i did that Prime Run @1,584VCore, but right now that Babe does the same (~ 3h Prime so far) @1,550 :woot: . I´m just on the way to find the min. VCore i need for 10x300 :toast:
As i was asked for a A64 Tweaker screen, here we go (close to 18h Dual-Prime :clap: :
(DRAM Drive Strength/DRAM Data Drive Strength 5/1)
http://www.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/08L6P.jpg
Very nice :clap:
be sure to post it here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=86531
:)
See Post #17 there :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
lol, my bad :p:
Updated now :D
Did you try it at all on air? And any idea what it does at 1.37v? I'm trying to predict what mine will do on higher vCore :) My cooling is really holding me back. Can't wait till i watercool it in a week :woot:
Air ... nopes sorry .... not tested, but i know from that babe (on water):Quote:
Originally Posted by K.I.T.T.
1,328 (CPU-Z) - Bios on Auto/Auto - so should be 1.35V : 10x270 > 12h Dual Prime on water
1,488 (CPU-Z) was 10x290 > 12h Dual Prime (possible less VCore)
1,584 (CPU-Z) was 10x300 > 17h Dual Prime (possible less VCore)
Right now i`m on 10x300@1.550 (CPU-Z) and past the 3h mark for sure ... so does not look bad at all :toast:
Btw ... i know that there are at least 3 batches of so called "Wafernumbers" around ... (Down Left, 7 Numbers + 1 Letter) ... so it could also depend on that how good the 0550UPMW in your hand clocks ;)
Wanna see something really interesting (i could take some pics at the location of my retailer) ->
Opti 170 0550UPMW Batch 50193 :eek:
http://www.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/07RXP.jpg
Opti 170 0550UPMW Batch 50193 :eek:
http://www.bilder-hosting.de/tbnl/07RZ0.jpg
Just compare them .... both are 50193´s - but from differnt waferset´s :eek:, that could be the reason for some low and some very high clocks ...
Mine new Opteron 170 from trend4pc.de original CPU not pretested......
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4982/opt1707ay.th.jpg
First results at 3.1GHz 1.425x1.04 1.478V.Iam using 133 divider since iam testing the cpu.Prometeia Mach I R404 modded for cooling..... :banana: :banana:
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/660...132m2hj.th.jpg
Nice work...which one is yours? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete@X
None of them :DQuote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
So get it Prime Stable :stick: , mine does SPi on Water 1,6VCore 10x315 and a bit more, but SPi is useless regarding 24/7 stability ;) ... Prime Custom for some hours with FFT`s in place counts :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by ThorLite
Was that a hand picked one Pete?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete@X
Hiya ...Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
nopes ... just drove by - picked 2 and left ... so i guess we can call it "lucky shot" :toast: .... the 2nd acts like the 1st ... 10x290 stable @1,488V :eek: ,.. not tested further as right now the 1st is still priming 10x300@1,55V :woot:
we need to see when the cold bug hits on these.....very interesting
has anyone gotten one of these steppings from the US yet?
Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
I got my Opteron 170 0550UPMW from proshop.dk
Damn, should have ordered one when I saw thewy had 4 in stock....*slaps my own face*Quote:
Originally Posted by Webmonkey
If anyone gets these from the US, please PM me! I'd like to order one immediately.
Just beautiful :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete@X
Nice find :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Pete@X
So your pics show:
1st Pic: 1387434L50193
2nd Pic: 1387396L50193
The differences is in the 5th/6th/7th digits, i.e. we have either '434' or '396'. ThorLite has a 434 which also seems like a nice chip (yes i see he is on phase). Pete@X, would you mind telling us if your chip is a 396 or a 434?
ThorLite, have you tried you chip on air or water, so we can try and do a compare to Pete@X. Looks like im going to try and buy from trend4PC.de, will contact proshop.dk (thanxs Webmonkey :)) to see if they ship to Europe. There is a 0550UPMW on ebay.co.uk at the moment, but even though the seller says he ships to Europe, he wont send to Cyprus :mad: , we are in Europe :rolleyes:
Am keeping a close eye on this thread :D
-EDIT-
Just tried http://www.proshop.de but only get a black page :confused:
No i have used only phase.The cpu does up to now 3.13GHz 1.48V dual folding .I believe that with my ss phase setup you gain about 300-350MHz with the same vcore so with air-water it will do around 2830.Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
Iam very pleased with the cpu so far and iam willing to give to this cpu up to 1.6V i have some MHz still to gain easily............ :toast:
My old 4400+ was really..........:banana: :banana: 3GHz 1.68V
Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
try .dk instead of .de :stick: - it is a Danish web shop.
LOL, thank you very much, my apologies. I in no way meant to offend you, hehhehee :p: . Looks like im going to have to apology's to the Germans also, hehheee :D:slap:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Webmonkey
so how do we know which is good and which is bad??Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete@X
any thoughts
Hiya ...Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
both are 434`s :fact: ,,,
Quote:
Originally Posted by foodfightr
my 165 from ZZF is ccbwe 0550upmw :)
Hey Ken, can you report back if it is a 396 or a 434 (5th/6th and 7th digits on bottom line of code). Also would like to know how it clocks ofcourseQuote:
Originally Posted by ken
:D
Hi ...Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
heard from some 396 which top ~ 2,8 to 2,85 GHz .... so - if you want one ... really make sure you get a 434 !
mine is 434 aswell
.........mong got carried away and forgot to ask the thread starter :slap: :p: . So its looking like 434 is the thing to look for, all the credit is to Pete@X, until someone with a crap clocking 434 shows up :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by mag|c
Anyone fancy starting a 434 database, heheee
mine is 35A :SQuote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
I dont actually have the CPU here, this from the guy that bought for me , will report back later this week when I recieve it :p
hmm...maybe i should get one, glad to live in germany h3h3
but they cost 450€...lol..
nono thats to expensive..
I got a 165 CCBWE 0550 UPMW 43A, My cpu is almost identical stepping to pete's. I have an "A" intead of 4 and the last 2 digits are 57. It does 2.9 currently dual priming at 1.48v (in bios).Quote:
Originally Posted by mongoled
Expensive?Quote:
Originally Posted by tHe_jOkeR
Nah, 1k is expensive ;)
Lucky that we do have 2 companyes making cpu or we would pay 1k for even a 1ghz ;)
Good results though on 0550.
Will order mine on monday....:woot:
Damn these are some nice chips. Better than 0531/0530 TPMW!
atm my x434x50357 is 3dmark (03 & 05) and dual prime (both small & large fft's) stable, at 2850mhz 1,375 x 110% (ITE SG reports 1,45v properly around 1,5 with the dmm) and 2800mhz 1,375 x 104% (ITE SG reports 1,37v properly around 1,4 with the dmm).
i have removed the ihs and it's cooled by cnps 9500.
I'm loving that you got those results with a CNPS 9500. What are your ambient, idle and load temps? I have a 165 and a 170 on the way....... both CCBWE 0550 UPMW!!Quote:
Originally Posted by mag|c
I modified my retention element on the mobo, so I could mount my Zalman 9500 with studs through the mobo- just like a waterblock would.... knurled nuts and all.
where are u from?Quote:
Originally Posted by flopper
hmm.... I'm really pissed:D
really dont know if i should get one....wahhhh damn:confused:
we'll see...^^
greetz
My ambient temp is 21 degrees, idle is 31-32, load is 46-48 with 1,37v and 50-52 with 1,45v, but my zalman is only running at 7v.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdelong
But the sad thing about the cnps 9500 is, that its too heavy then its inside a case so it wont make contact with one side of the core, stupid mounting thingy.
bad news in the USA as there will be increased prices starting next week from AMD..at least everyone is reporting this
From Sweden.Quote:
Originally Posted by tHe_jOkeR
Just ordered a 170 0550 from trendpc.
:woot:
Now I just hope it works well better than my 3800+ x2 so i can rest down and be satisfied with a 3.0ghz ;)
My 3800+ does 2747 but at a high vcore of 1.712.
I also was curious of the opterons in how it is from a normal athlon 64 so it be good to test it.
I get back with results when I get it.
Very nice results ppl :toast:
I'll have one of this beautys tonight, i hope to be lucky :D
i may be getting a 170 0550 umpw with the bottom lines as:
1387408L50552
or
1387408L50540
any clue what i can expect? theyre both 408, not the other 2 numbers seen, weird
I received my 170 0550 UPMW today, batch number 1387408L50589 and it's dual priming at 3.0Ghz @1.36v now!! The IHS is still on so that's what you should expect if you have a single stage phase change ;) On watercool or air I can see this chip doing atleast 2.90Ghz with slightly higher vcore but I only intend to run on phase change :D This stepping is amazing!!
Here's a screenie I just took few minutes ago, still priming away....I will try lower vcore later, this beast is da bomb!!!
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=42765
nice results, im getting a 0550 umpw batch 408 also, i hope its as good as yours! do you think on air youd be able to hit 3ghz? i mean youre at stockish voltage...
Anyone seen these in a 175 flavor yet?
Awesome results everyone.
Quote:
Originally Posted by terrordemon
408 is a good batch, it will most likely hit 3.0Ghz on good air but the IHS "might" need to be remove, this is the best dual core I've ever get my hands on. I'm going to keep lowering the vcore and see what happen. :toast:
i cannot WAIT to get the 0550 :D i just won in a bidding "war" against some person who "kindly asked me to retract my bid because they really needed the processor and that i should go to pricegrabber and find myself a cheaper one"
lol
now im even more pumped than when i put together my rig with my 0530 tpmw (:banana::banana::banana::banana:ing dud) :D :D :D
Well, I just found out that the opteron 170 UPMW 0550 I am getting shipped to me is of the 434 flavor and since I am on water I cant wait!!
I hope yours will clock like mad too, I just tried to dual prime mine at 3.0Ghz @1.30v with the IHS still on....what a wishful thinking, worth a try though.....hehe, I can bench but the system rebooted during dual prime :p: I'm not even sure if I should bother to take the IHS off now, please post back some results after you got yours man :DQuote:
Originally Posted by terrordemon
I got an Opteron 165 0550 CBBWE, same same?
I've clocked to 280 HTT, 2.52 GHz, after that it started to get Super-PI errors, but that's default Voltage, XP-90 air and perhaps RAM limited. Will continue soon.
I have a feeling that that's definitely going to be the chip to have. Let me know if you find any.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpt Twitchy
LOL....that's some funny $hit.....GL with the cpu.....Quote:
Originally Posted by terrordemon
165 0550 CBBWE com'in too :)
so what voltages does it require to be prime stable at 3ghz? any clue? and how fast does the comp reboot? and it just reboots? it doesnt fail or anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
I really hope it comes in taht flavor because I know someone that would like proly 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by ixtapalapaquetl
Quote:
Originally Posted by terrordemon
3Ghz @1.36v is what it needed, 1.30v caused my machine to reboot after about 5min of dual prime....it didn't error out, just rebooted itself, not enough juice!
Your on phase, why not try for more than 3Ghz? Give it some more juice!
Trust me....I certainly will, infact....it's being dual priming at 3.10Ghz @1.45v at the moment, still working on it :D I just wish I have one more multiplier or better memory sticks as my 2GB Redline is only good up to 258 and not a single mhz higher even if I use 2T, not much option(even 9x or 9.5x multiplier) to push for 3.20Ghz at the moment but I'll try to get around the memory limitation till I get higher clock sticks, how about some teaser for now? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
3.10Ghz @1.45v :D
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=42781
:eek: :clap: :toast: :oscar: :worship: :bows: :shocked: :D
That just about covers it :clap:
Ok, UPS are on route with the 0550 opt 170. 2 or 3 days to go.:woot:
Man, long time ago I felt this excited to try some hardware out.
:D
:banana:
i see CCBWE 0551 UPMW in germany...
maybe better? or not as good as the 0..
btw...175 with this stepping:
http://www.oc-wear.de/pd1137067761.htm?categoryId=4
greetz
I know one of you guys over in germany wanna try it out:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by tHe_jOkeR
I need some advice.
I have an Opteron 165 at 2700mhz with 1.5v (1.55v in BIOS). It doesn't seem to go much further, even with my watercooling and more volts. IHS is still on though.
Anyway the other week I saw 165s for cheap and ordered one with the intention of resale. I'd make $80ish.
It arrived today.
Guess what.
CCBWE 0550UPMW.
So here's the thing, if I open it, I'd obviously sell the lesser one. I'd probably break even, at least, close enough to where I'd be OK with the whole thing... unless it won't even hit 2.8ghz. If it couldn't even get to 2.8ghz, then $80 opportunity down the drain kind of sucks... but then again, I'd be in the same place I was a week ago...
What do you guys think?
the few 0550 UPMW I have seen in 165 flavor hit 2.7 ok but ?? not as likely to hit 2.8 as the 170 0550 UPMWQuote:
Originally Posted by AndrewZorn
Hell I would give it a go..you know you want too:toast:
BTW you vcore of 1.55v is what you chip is getting...at idle you are getting 1.55v , the DFI mobo at load is overvolting 0.025-0.05v...
at load your chip is getting 1.57/1.58-1.6v...becareful
the 1.5v that is reported by bios or xp is wrong
neal is right, even if you get the same stepping but 165 binned lower than 170 so technically it probably would clock lower than what you see on some of these 170, your mileage may vary especially when it comes to overclocking so you won't know for sure till you try it.
Hello friends.
I have two processors on the way and I'll choose whichever clocks better. The first one is Opteron 165 0546 SPMW, and the second one is Opteron 170 0550 UPMW. But I don't know their batch numbers. Of course I'll see the results when the cpu's come but can I get a prior opinion from you guys about which of them would be better according to your experiences. If it clocks nearly the same I'll choose the 165 but if 170 overclocks way better than I'll definitely go for it. I'll use the cpu's with Vapochill LS. So do you have a guess?
Thanks
i dont think the binning is that prominent, else everyone here would be buying 180s...
but ill heed your word and im waiting until at least tomorrow now.
any more results? i got one on the way, i will post as soon as i get it.
170 0550 408
This puppy is getting better and better...but I really need some better memory, anything above 3.10Ghz I'm forced to use 100 mem divider, my 2GB Redline won't do over 258 and for whatever reason 133 and 140 mem divider are no go for this chip, memory bandwidth at 100 divider really sucks hardcore but hey, atleast it can do this and then some :D
3.20Ghz @1.56v
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...chmentid=42797
So far the overclock speed and vcore increment ratio is very linear and the ceiling of this chip is pretty high, at one point the PWMIC also skyrocket to as much as 70C' during dual prime at 3.20Ghz :lol:
3.0Ghz - 1.36v
3.1Ghz - 1.45v
3.2Ghz - 1.56v
:woot: :woot:
Awesome Results
now dump 1.75 into it Ben ;)
wow. you have an FX-60 that is missing the multipliers.
thanks man. anybody willing to donate me an extra multiplier to use on this chip? :lol: :D
Quote:
Originally Posted by fareastgq
I will do it in a heartbeat if I have better cooling to keep the massive heatload in check, this thing really tax the crap out of this single stager! :D
have you reached the point to where you wont be using your single core much longer?
It's quite the opposite, I'm starting to missed the flexibility of my 148 as the 11x multiplier is VERY handy, unless I buy more ram that could clock higher, or find a 175 that could clock as well as this chip otherwise it's possible that I 'might' go back to single core....I still can't decide at the moment :lol: One thing for certain though, I wouldn't hesitate to run this 170 at 3.20Ghz @1.56v for 24/7.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndrewZorn
3.2ghz with voltage like that is perfect for daily use...
i was talking to someone today and i told him something, that i cannot believe how spoiled i have become... i got an hourglass yesterday when doing daily type stuff. so simple, so 'expected' by most, but it really bothered me. i am so used to never having to wait for ANYTHING, and i love it.
besides Q4 and the like being dual-core capable, id stick with the dualie...
anyway, we both know anything above 10x is for suckas.
I think you can really make your CPU and mem fly with an Expert. You should try it before ditching your CPU.
Ben, if you do go back to single core, can i buy that 170 off of you?
WOW. i just realized he had the asus...
which makes it a more amazing feat, but is somewhat disappointing...
get an expert, or at least a slider!
I don't think any SS can handle taht kind of heatload. At least a SS for normal use 24/7 unlike a uber 1hp rotary style:cool: Very ncie chip and keep that sucker clocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
I'm using the Ultra-D AD0 at the moment and it's only good for 334 HTT so I'll most likely ditch this board for the Expert, for now I'm just playing it safe and wait few more weeks to see how well the Expert hold up.Quote:
Originally Posted by thunderstruck!
I don't think we can discuss that matter here but if I ever give up either one I'll put it on Classified ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Red.Sky
Agreed, and a big compressor with the right :banana::banana::banana::banana:tail will hold this 170 @3.30Ghz for 24/7 no problem but it's going to be loud as hell :lol: this puny little Masush|ta compressor is pretty much very close to if not already maxed out so I don't think it would go past 3.25Ghz to do dual prime. I'd ordered some 2GB Gskill HZ from newegg earlier and should received them next Wednesday, once I get them in I'll push it as far as I could and post back some more results :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Cpt Twitchy
Just a word of warning - you may not have such a great experience with certain 2gb kits and the expert - you're probably better off sticking with the Ultra-D in terms of compatibility with different types of memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
P.S. - If you really wanna see what that cpu is capable of @ AT LEAST DI temps, feel free to send it to me and I'll toss it on my autocascade :D
What kind of 2GB kits might have issues on the expert? UCCC? if it's not appropriate to post it in the public please let me know via PM :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I'll see if I can get hold of a mousepot and some DI around here, if not then I might take up your offer and let you play with it for a week and see what it can do under your autocascade :lol: :D by the way, what's your autocascade holding temperature and can you guess how far can you push this 170?Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
I got some of this on Monday, seems happy at 250 3-3-3-8 at the moment in the Expert with a x2 3800 Toledo, which is better than spec.Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
My autocascade is a freakish phase unit - evap temps on my FX57 @ 1.68ish are around -73C and loaded @ -67C :cool: . It all depends on how well the memory controller will take the cold. The best CCBWE I've seen to date is an x2 4800 which is able to run @ ~-55C Core temps. I'd say on average though, the CCBWE's seem to crap out @ around -35C - -40C core. Your cpu @ approx 1.6 - 1.65V will probably be a perfect fit with the auto. Here's a little bios shot from my FX57 a couple days ago:Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/6553/455pb.jpg
as soon as my winni is selled i will get oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Cpt Twitchy
429 in ger now. :)
s7e9h3n: have u got a golden tip for me, on how to handle my ccbwe mem ctrl?
280-285mhz seems to be the absolut max i can get my z503s to run stable with the cpu in #0 and drive / data strenght 5 / 1 appears best.
295mhz wasn't a problem with my previous 3700+ even with only 2,6v.
where are you guys getting 0550 UPMW 170s? I could only find the 165s from TankGuys (I ordered 2 they will be here on Monday). But I could not find anyone selling 170 0550UPMWs... :confused:
i got mine of ebay, and i may have access to more 170 0550's, so if youre interested in buying one, polssibly PM me? i duno the seller needs to get back to me
If only it were that easy to figure out these things :p: TBH, I don't have much experience with the 2gb kits, but there could be numerous things that are preventing your OC from reaching the levels of your 3700+. As you probably know, you simply just can't expect as high of an OC with a dual core as a single core. What Vdimm are you running @ 280 with your dual core? IMO, running drive/data of 5/1 is a little weak unless you're running in extreme cold. On average, I never run below 7/2 on any of my memory. Have you tried 7/auto? Problems such as these don't really have any quick answers - you basically have to try to narrow the problem down through trial and error. It may just be that your dualcore simply isn't able to run as fast as your single ;) .........Quote:
Originally Posted by mag|c
:woot:Quote:
Originally Posted by s7e9h3n
My CCBWE and LS are getting married. :D
Yup, for the most part, people seem to be able to avoid the cold-bug on x2's by running VapoLS's :DQuote:
Originally Posted by stone_cold_Jimi
It could be a case of your ballistix ironically degrading at the time in which you switched cpu's. As you already know the recent batches can last from 2 days up to 6 months from my experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by mag|c
Maglc, Stephen and Shure are right...try 8/3, 8/2 for drive and data strength, or leave them on auto, 5/1 is too weak. And it's very possible that your Z503 is on it's way out as well, usually these suckers won't last too long, I went through 3 pairs and all of them died within 2~3 weeks.
could the drive and data strength be holding back an oc? i have no clue what that is and what it does, but when i get my chip i want nothing to hold back the oc except for tempsQuote:
Originally Posted by ben805
woohoo can't wait to see results:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by tHe_jOkeR