go into device manager, click on processors and the drivers version should be 5.1.2600.0 , also the provider is advanced micro devices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
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go into device manager, click on processors and the drivers version should be 5.1.2600.0 , also the provider is advanced micro devices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
is this only for winXP SP2 ?
I'm using SP1 , should i install this hotfix? I'm moving to dualcore soon.
thanks
i dont think you need it, but im not 100% sure. You should install the driver tho, not sure about the hotfix.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaco
under device manager and processors my driver version is currently listed as 1.2.2.0...the AMD dual core driver listed on AMD's site is listed as 1.2.2.1...you sure it will show up as 5.1.2600.0 when installed?...it seems like it would make more sense for it to show up as 1.2.2.1 :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
BUMPQuote:
Originally Posted by Titus
mine shows up as 1.2.2.0 as well. I am pretty sure that's correct.
so does that mean you have the AMD dual core driver installed?...cuz the AMD website lists the dual core driver version as 1.2.2.1Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxT
:confused:
i apoligise, if you have the amd driver installed it should be 1.2.2.0...my mistake
so why on the AMD website is the dual core driver version listed as 1.2.2.1?...Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
now thats a question to ask AMD and microsoft.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titus
wow thanks guys.... I missed this some how !
Well I had the AMD drivers installed on XP 64 and then I tried unistalling them to see what the difference was and I got a 6000 point increase in 3dmark05. The drivers definitely dont help on XP 64. At least for me.
However im still getting stuttering in games even with only one core set on the game.
6 thousand, woah.....thats kind of hard to believe that drivers would make that much of a difference, even if you enabled cool and quiet wouldnt make a big difference like that....
just installed this hot fix on my X2 3800+ and my problem on playing music has disappeared. before installing this fix, my mp3's stutters and will sometimes skip a couple of seconds or play music at twice the speeds.
You know I'm actually kinda bummed I installed the driver right away. I never got a chance to experience the bug/issue...and therefore may not ever TRULY appreciate the fix!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryn
Woops, typo. 600 points not 6000. That would be a huge difference. Also figured out my problem wasnt associated with the processor. Stupid driver conflict.
So is there a final word? Do I need the reg fix in addition to the driver? I've noticed hitching in BF2 while in 3rd person view on a truck/car. Also, NFS MW hitches terribly.
If you have a dual core cpu, just follow these steps as directed and your problems will go away, easy as 1,2,3. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jodiuh
Well, I have the driver installed, but I haven't applied the ms fix. Also, I've never dled an m$ patch only to edit the reg. Wouldnt' the patch do that for me?Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
the registry actually enables the fix, also people have gotten improved performance from the fix, so i suggest installing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jodiuh
Cool, thanks. That's what I wanted to know ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
GUYS
after l installed this fix,whrn windows reboots,it comes to a screen saying hardware ans software utility
profile 1 .have to press profile 1 to enter windows,how can l fix this
Is it me or is the link to the download not working? I'm getting a laoded page but it contains the text "The Request File not Found"
I got a increase in 3dmark of 600 for 05 and 750 for 01.. so it worked for me I guess!
Bueller? Bueller?Quote:
Originally Posted by FZ1
Notice:
I advice people who are not using a English WinXP installation to e-mail MS personally and receive the hotfix. I did that and they sent me a newly uploaded hotfix which they uploaded on their website and when they saw that I had downloaded it, they deleted it right away. Probably to prevent leeching.
Here is what they told me in regards to this fix:
So for localized and perhaps a newer version of this hotfix I suggest mailing Microsoft and ask them for a copy: msconusATmicrosoftDOTcom (AT=@, DOT=.)Quote:
Hi Franz,
The hotfix has not been made publicly available because it has not been fully tested and we are not sure if it causes more issues. That is why this hotfix should only be installed if you have the issue. We also want to follow up on customers who install this fix so we know if there are any issues.
If you have any feedback regarding the case or the support in general, I would appreciate it if you could let us know.
A couple of questions I would like you to consider:
* How did you experience the support?
* Is there any particular issue that you found particularly troublesome/annoying?
* What can we do better in future?
Happy New Year and thank you for contacting Microsoft.
Be sure to include this information when mailing them:
:)Quote:
HOT FIX:
===================================
Operating system: WinXP Professional
SP: Service Pack 2
Language: German (or whatever language your installation is)
Product for hot fix: (if it's different from OS) - or delete these three rows.
SP: (if there is any)
Language:
Other:
Hot Fix Qxxxxxx
==============================
-k0nsl
hey sorry for the broken link, i updated the link, works fine now.
Thanks bro, done. Wasn't sure what to put here tho:Quote:
Originally Posted by k0nsl
Hot Fix Qxxxxxx
Just mentioned the kb896256 Dual Core/Multi proc issue. They're M$, surely they can figure it out, right...right?
fixed my prob,
Hey..
I was wondering.. How can someone with the same motherboard and hardware as me NOT have problems with the X2 and I have them.. It can't be hardware related.. so its OS related.. they working on a fix for this ? Before I set the fix, installations of programs were corrupted, start menu flickered when you hit it, games constantly droped me (bf2) after an hour or so of game play. I patched, everything seems to have worked, but I don't know if I should just go back to my 3500+ from my 4400+. I don't see any real preformance gains.. all I see is still some weird performance issues even with the patch, but the patch fixed like 90% of all the problems. The only problem I see now is that I don't load as fast, and run games as fast and as "chop free" as before.
dont go back to the single core, if you did the patches and drivers as directed you won have any issues what so ever.
That sounds like something else entirely. Honestly, it sounds like heat/psu issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by ecl1pz
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Originally Posted by Jodiuh
That what I thought but I Checked out everything. Only when I applied the fix, all these problems went away. I just put on a new thermaltake 120mm HSF.. if anything bios reported my temps lower than before..
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Originally Posted by GAR
I mean I thought that, but look how severe my problems were. I mean In my mind I have such severe underlying problems and its just buggin at me. Yeah I really dont wan't to go through all that again.. Do you have any idea when an integrated OS fix would come.. well sp3 .. ?
i think sp3 will have these fixes in it, but im not 100% sure on that, because not everyone uses dual core.Quote:
Originally Posted by ecl1pz
For shame!Quote:
Originally Posted by GAR
I'm into my third day with the X2 4400, I've installed the new drivers and did the hotfix. At first everything went fine (although I didn't run any games for more than an hour or so). Today I'm getting a single "beep" upon startup (from power being off but not on reset) and I crashed to the blue screen of death after playing COD2 for about 20 min (the comp had been on for a few hours however). Any ideas? Should I deleted the hotfix and reinstall or what? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
P.S. CnQ was disabled when I crashed
I'm running:
Abit Fatality AN8 SLI
AMD X2 4400+
2 gigs Corsair XMS
ATI X800XT 256meg
Win XP Home edition SP2
umm......the hotfix and drivers have nothing to do with yout bios beeping what so ever, as far as the Blue screen of death try uninstalling the hotfix and see if it happens again....then well take it from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Interiit
Just want to say thanks GAR :-)
Jonny5
Well I got rid of the hotfix and played for awhile yesterday with no problems but crashed to blue screen today after about 10min of play. So it seems to be kinda random. weird....will reinstall the hotfix and see if I still get problems.
make sure you edit the registry to enable the fix, also check your boot.ini see /usepmtimer is in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Interiit
ur welcome dude!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonny5isalivetm
1.i installed the AMD driver
2. installed the hotfix
3. applied the .reg file (the one that need.for.mhz posted)
did i do it correct?
thanks
yeah make sure you edit your registry to enable the hotfix, just follow the steps on the 1st page, check everything off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalero
Wait, wait. I thought the fix was enabled by installing the hotfix?
Update: reinstalled hotfix and enabled it, also made sure I had /usepmtimer in my boot.ini I no longer am crashing to a blue screen but instead I occasionlly get freeze-ups in various different games. Is there anything else I can do? It seems most people's problems end upon enabling the hotfix...I wonder if I'm doing something incorrect? Followed the steps exactly....any insights would be well appreciated. Thanks in advance.
aright guys, go to the first page, read everything, print it out and follow all the steps, i tell you how to enable it, so print it out and follow all instructions and you should be alright.
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Originally Posted by GAR
GAR thank you very much my friend.. :toast:
5 % Boost so far and more stable after patch installed and enabled.. :D
Is there a dutch language fix for XP? English won't work offcourse.
in order to get other languages i think you have to contact MS.
FYI this fix worked for all My BF2 connection/playing problems. I do not need winlaucher at all anymore.
good to hear dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by CODE 4
Great Guide tried on 2 different gaming rigs and both have no worries..Thank You.
Hey I am switching back to a single core opteron. Do i need to remove this? How do I do it properly? Thanks
pmed you.
Is there a fix for XP Pro x64 english version? I get The updatebr.inf file is invalid when I use the file you suggested.
From what i know, there is no fix for windows xp64......try emailing MS.Quote:
Originally Posted by iller
Thanks GAR for the update. :toast:
So how do the computer behave after the ms hotfix and AMD x2 driver.
Is it smooter?
I use AMD x2 driver, but dont know i i shoud install the ms hotfix.
I did...seems "smoother" Tho I didn't screw with the reg and still don't think ya should ;-)
What happens if you install the driver and/or hotfix etc in a different order?
Also how can you remove the hotfix if you wanted to install them from scratch?
If I swap CPU's frequently from single core to dual core should I install this hotfix? Will I need to un-install if I swap from dual core 170 to single core 146?
.... and what's the best way to backup the registry before doing this?
thanks!
TO remove the hotfix just follow these steps.
1 - uninstall the hotfix, go into ad/remove programs, click on show updates and remove update numbered KB896256
2 - reverse the registry entrie
3 - uninstall the drivers
4 - go into your boot.ini and remove /usepmtimer
Thanks GAR, my machine still freezes or restarts after installing all the fixes so I though I might remove them all aside from the AMD drivers and see how it goes. Then if it still freezes I'll install them in order.
I never dl'ed the hot fix or any of that crap and had a problem with cs which i found to be funny since cs:s runs smooth as butter, after about 2 hours of looking threw crap that wanted me to install stuff etc, (im not a fan of) i noticed when u go to task manager there is an affinity thing on the bottom, curious (went from 2.26 b4 and wasnt there, its a set the prog to what core, simply whenever u run it b4 u go into a game or anything uncheck one of the cores, game runs fast and fine now no patch or anything needed.
HOW TO FIX::::
CLT ALT DEL
go to HL.exe right click
SET AFFINITY
UNCHECK ONE OF THE CORES
all better
~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@
im poor from being a working adult with a mortage car payments etc however system is:
175 opteron 0530 core untouch for the moment
1 gig non dual channel 2.5 3 3 8 t2 ( 2 dual channel 512total, plus 512 1 stick :( )
crappy ass chaintech s1689 mother board 7/14 bios
9800 xt 8x 256mb oc'd 415c / 660m
300g diamond max maxtor 16mb sata 150
sound blaster audigy platium +
sony mdr-v900 headphones
xp pro
I contacted MS, and there is no hotfix for x64, but they promised to check if there was one on the way.
Note to WinXP SP1 users: None of this works with SP1. The hotfix and AMD's drivers won't install unless you have SP2.
This kinda sucks, cause I have some issues atm moment, and there's really no way for me to fix it. Right after a reboot, the system is perfectly fine. But after about 1 hour or so, things stutter. Even like animated gifs stutter. Anyone know a way to fix it for SP1 users? Only way to fix the stuttering atm is to set the affinity to 1 core, which is pretty annoying.
Hmmmm.....the only way to really fix it, is to upgrade to sp2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silver Fox
espressx:
But then you lose the benefit of dual core gaming!! :stick: :stick:
GREAT FIND! My only question would be: why in the hell does it list 31 frickin cores!??! lol... a little excessive if you ask me!Quote:
Originally Posted by espressx
but again, I hadnt seen that yet, so ty!
setting the affinity to a certain core has been said before, this fix allows you to game without crashes, and you dont need to set affinity manually.Quote:
Originally Posted by palehorse
This fixed help me too... thankz....
Ok I installed the AMD Driver 1.2.2.1 drivers for Dual Core WinXP Pro 64Bit OS
I downloaded the MS Patch you provided (thank you) and when i go to install the patch it run all the way through then stops and gives me this error message: (Setup Error The updaterbr.inf file is invalid) What do i need to do to fix this ?????? Thanks I'll be online till then :)
After reading iller's post: I contacted MS, and there is no hotfix for x64, but they promised to check if there was one on the way. So i gues never mind (lol) Thanks anyways i'll wait
Any news on this? I planned on getting a DC too, but then it should be running the way it's supposed to.Quote:
Originally Posted by iller
I've been using x64 for like half a year now, and I really don't want to get back to x32.
by the time they decide to do that, MS VISTA will be out....i hope vista is a good OS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Radical_53
:confused: :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by espressx
Why would you want to do this everytime you played a game? GAR's method is painless and reversible if needed.
I had various problems with my Dual Core and when i got my new graphics card and mobo, i decided to go about try this. Upon doing this im still having the same problems, infact, id say its worse after doing this fix. It seems to just treat the CPU as one core and eats both cores cycles regardless. Still get slow downs, major slow downs. Basically really bad lag spikes. Also another problem is on wow i have a max fps of 64fps after installing my dual core. Anyone got any ideas ? would love to have some advice :( Its so bad im tempted to go back to my 3200+
You know, it's weird. I'm getting the lag now even after I've installed the driver and the hotfix. Tho this winstall's been pretty abused with BSOD's due to the nappy x1900xt I got.
For the record, should we be installing the AMD driver...when...before chipset drivers? And what about the hotfix? Probably doesn't matter...
i would install the chipset drivers before anything, then continue the instructions i provided, also make sure you are editing the registry to enable the fix, to disable the fix simply ut 0 in the registry and it will disable the fix, no need to uninstall, just makes it easy, so you can compare.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jodiuh
When you use this fix, doesn't affinity get set for every program? Therefore, the comment that was made previously about losing "dual core performance while gaming" is a misnomer, correct?
If this fix, for example, sets affinity automatically for one core when playing BF2, how would you be getting "dual core performance"?
Taking this a step further, does this fix set affinity to single core for all programs once they are started up? If so, how is that a benefit?
No the fix does not set the affinity to a certain core, it just fixes a few problems with speed ups and slow downs in several games.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyRingo
Does anyone has the Dutch version of the MS hotfix?
@gar: Well, you might be right with this. I'm looking forward to Vista too. I don't want to have any CPU raw power "lying" around... ;)
Wow this is a must do! if you are running dual core CPUs I just follow the instructions on page one and my system is running smooooootthhh!! thanks! GAR! :)
Hey!
First of all, nice thread! (good job GAR)
I have a few questions.
1. Is there any problem using the english ms-fix on a non-english winxp sp2 system? I mean, I´m running several other ms-apps in english on my swedish xp.
2. Is it possible to install/update the AMD driver, install the ms-fix and fix .reg in a existing system, OR do you have to format and install all the things before you do anything else?
Until now I´ve fixed the problem by setting my games to run in win98 compatibility mode (instead of setting affinity) because I get more fps with win98-mode than with setting affinity to 1 cpu. Does anyone know exactly what win98 comp.mode does to a process?
3. Some applications wont terminate correctly. For example, if I view a .pdf document with adobe acrobat, the acrobat.exe will remain active even when I close the .pdf file. Does the fix deal with problems like this also?
X2 3800+
Asus Nforce4 A8N-E
ATI Radeon x800xl ultimate
winxp pro sp2
No fix for Chinese Windows :(
Hey, thanks man, 1- the fix wont work for any other languages sorry buddy, 2-you dont have to format, you can install on a current system, 3-it might fix your problem, might not......Quote:
Originally Posted by proddis
If you need the fix for a different language? Ask Google or MS themselves. I found one for my XP (german) on Google.
But MS should supply you with it if you ask for it (don't know why they don't have it for download).
My stuff still jitters even with this fix :(
Thank you :D! I recently built my friend a computer with a 165 opteron. Counter-strike would get progressively worse each boot where it would stutter. Your guide fixed everything!
BF2 still appears to be stuttering, oh so very slightly though.
It may just be because I'm pedantic. :stick:
Well...
BF2 is still jerky, however I didn't edit the boot.ini file.
Anyone know if you are supposed to edit it on Windows XP Home Edition?
I am certainly no expert but I would think so, heres a copy of my the Pro version if its any help :)Quote:
Originally Posted by LiQU!D
[boot loader]
timeout=0
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOW S
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=AlwaysOff /fastdetect /usepmtimer
The "/pmtimer" thing is what you're supposed to add. So I guess that works for pro and home versions.
Yeah, GAR has XP Pro by the looks of things aswell. :mad:
I'm not going to edit it until I know that someone has tried it on Windows XP Home Edition. :(
Why dont you do yourself and others a favour and just do it :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by LiQU!D
I mean, whats the worst that can happen, apart from you rig exploding :eek:
And why is it someone else has to go first :stick: :rolleyes:
Oh and you have forgotten to list all the colours of your individual components in your sig hehehehehe
I don't want to screw up my fresh windows installation. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by alpha0ne
Shhh :p:Quote:
Oh and you have forgotten to list all the colours of your individual components in your sig hehehehehe
Well, I've got the 81.95 nVidia drivers installed at the moment, do the 81.98 drivers have a fix for this maybe? :(
Whats up people, this fix seems to be for SP2, so if you have SP2 weather its HOME/PRO it should work fine, plus this is fully reversable, so dont be afraid to mess anything up, give it a shot and let me know the results.
Well it certainly made the stuttering less, but I had to force it to affinity in one of my games.
Which one? I have to do it for COD2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trice